Ported Blower Results!!! c7z06owners.com teams up with Jokerz Performance
08-27-2017, 10:18 PM
#43
Melting Slicks
so if one goes up to the 102mm TB, then i assume they need a different maf? So a larger maf, i assume needs to be retuned?
My question is how can one go to 102mm without a retune, nor throw any codes up on the dash?
My question is how can one go to 102mm without a retune, nor throw any codes up on the dash?
Last edited by irun4cops; 08-27-2017 at 10:41 PM.
08-27-2017, 10:49 PM
#44
Melting Slicks
second question... is it possible that the "lid" to the supercharger is bending and thus leaking when you are reaching higher boost levels, and thus that is why it is "falling off" on power as you reach the peak rpm's?
I saw in your packages, one says "welded"... what does that entail?
I saw in your packages, one says "welded"... what does that entail?
08-27-2017, 10:55 PM
#45
Melting Slicks
third question... do i have to send my unit to you, or do you do a core exchange?
08-29-2017, 11:29 PM
#46
Melting Slicks
????
08-30-2017, 12:16 AM
#47
Former Vendor
Thread Starter
there is a core charge. they charge 1600 dollars. I just finished my heads/cam today and dyno on thursday. Ill see what it makes and then going to port the blower and go back and do another pull
08-30-2017, 02:07 AM
#48
The TVS 2300 (Maggie) on my car added 80 RWHP on 91 pump compared to the 1740 on an otherwise stock car. Bringing water/meth into the game brought the increase to +165 RWHP.
08-30-2017, 07:18 AM
#50
Pro
I might have asked you I need the other thread. How's the supercharger whine with the Maggie compared to the stock blower?
08-30-2017, 10:39 AM
#51
Former Vendor
Thread Starter
08-30-2017, 04:57 PM
#52
Melting Slicks
psi is a trick question... it varies as you lower downstream air restrictions... such as headers, cats, ported heads, etc.
Equal psi does not mean equal power. And more psi, is not a bad thing... it just means it takes more psi to force x amount of air into the chamber due to the downstream restrictions. Getting psi lower is always a good thing if you are able to do it and still flow more air (remove downstream restrictions)
Equal psi does not mean equal power. And more psi, is not a bad thing... it just means it takes more psi to force x amount of air into the chamber due to the downstream restrictions. Getting psi lower is always a good thing if you are able to do it and still flow more air (remove downstream restrictions)
08-30-2017, 05:02 PM
#53
Melting Slicks
lowering psi lowers heat build as compression creates heat. So if a person removes the restrictions, and flows more volume of air through the engine, and does it with less psi at the blower... that's a win.
But the logical and correct answer, if apples to apples, any blower that makes more power with all other downstream variables untouched... then yes, the PSI will always be higher.
But the logical and correct answer, if apples to apples, any blower that makes more power with all other downstream variables untouched... then yes, the PSI will always be higher.
08-30-2017, 05:19 PM
#54
Former Vendor
Thread Starter
lowering psi lowers heat build as compression creates heat. So if a person removes the restrictions, and flows more volume of air through the engine, and does it with less psi at the blower... that's a win.
But the logical and correct answer, if apples to apples, any blower that makes more power with all other downstream variables untouched... then yes, the PSI will always be higher.
But the logical and correct answer, if apples to apples, any blower that makes more power with all other downstream variables untouched... then yes, the PSI will always be higher.
but from what I've seen most of the 2300s are 13 to 14 psi which 80whp is no brainer. Stock blower with 13 psi will make 80 rwhp easy because just like 2300 you tune it.
just different way of doing things..... I just am awaiting the 2.9 Whipple
08-30-2017, 05:48 PM
#55
stock blower 9 psi vs 2300 9 psi.... 80whp impressive....
but from what I've seen most of the 2300s are 13 to 14 psi which 80whp is no brainer. Stock blower with 13 psi will make 80 rwhp easy because just like 2300 you tune it.
just different way of doing things..... I just am awaiting the 2.9 Whipple
but from what I've seen most of the 2300s are 13 to 14 psi which 80whp is no brainer. Stock blower with 13 psi will make 80 rwhp easy because just like 2300 you tune it.
just different way of doing things..... I just am awaiting the 2.9 Whipple
Boost was about 11-12.
Low speed power increases (torque) on the 1740 can be attained, but they diminish at high speed as the rotor inlet face starts to choke at about 1000-1100 CFM.
At 170KPA and 1000 CFM the TVS2300 has a 54F lower SC outlet temp than the TVS1740, it's just a much better sized unit for the 6.2L engine.
Biggest problem with the Z06 as we all know is the cooling system, the car just can't reject enough heat - for the intercooler or engine coolant. For Example - being in Cal we have to run a front plate, just removing the front plate (and GM mount) during normal driving drops Manifold Temps by ~35F, but they can never achieve the temp normally seen on a Camaro system.
I'm sure the dual rad Katech system is a great solution, just a bit outside the mods that I'd like to do with my car. I'm going to try some different front coolers and different arrangements to see if a reasonable compromise can be found.
2.9 might be another option, but it's not on par with the TVS2650 (2500 CFM capability)... so if you're waiting - might as go big!
08-30-2017, 05:52 PM
#56
Pretty similar, but louder through the mid RPM range, but I'm still running the factory MAF/Air Filter intake which does a pretty good job of masking the noise.
08-31-2017, 11:51 AM
#57
NOT the same boost - same level of knock (at the limit) on 91 octane...
Boost was about 11-12.
Low speed power increases (torque) on the 1740 can be attained, but they diminish at high speed as the rotor inlet face starts to choke at about 1000-1100 CFM.
At 170KPA and 1000 CFM the TVS2300 has a 54F lower SC outlet temp than the TVS1740, it's just a much better sized unit for the 6.2L engine.
Biggest problem with the Z06 as we all know is the cooling system, the car just can't reject enough heat - for the intercooler or engine coolant. For Example - being in Cal we have to run a front plate, just removing the front plate (and GM mount) during normal driving drops Manifold Temps by ~35F, but they can never achieve the temp normally seen on a Camaro system.
I'm sure the dual rad Katech system is a great solution, just a bit outside the mods that I'd like to do with my car. I'm going to try some different front coolers and different arrangements to see if a reasonable compromise can be found.
2.9 might be another option, but it's not on par with the TVS2650 (2500 CFM capability)... so if you're waiting - might as go big!
Boost was about 11-12.
Low speed power increases (torque) on the 1740 can be attained, but they diminish at high speed as the rotor inlet face starts to choke at about 1000-1100 CFM.
At 170KPA and 1000 CFM the TVS2300 has a 54F lower SC outlet temp than the TVS1740, it's just a much better sized unit for the 6.2L engine.
Biggest problem with the Z06 as we all know is the cooling system, the car just can't reject enough heat - for the intercooler or engine coolant. For Example - being in Cal we have to run a front plate, just removing the front plate (and GM mount) during normal driving drops Manifold Temps by ~35F, but they can never achieve the temp normally seen on a Camaro system.
I'm sure the dual rad Katech system is a great solution, just a bit outside the mods that I'd like to do with my car. I'm going to try some different front coolers and different arrangements to see if a reasonable compromise can be found.
2.9 might be another option, but it's not on par with the TVS2650 (2500 CFM capability)... so if you're waiting - might as go big!
Tvs2650 looks really good but not sure if it would fit. I have seen testing done by Harrop and it can make the power!
09-01-2017, 11:09 AM
#58
Former Vendor
Have you seen the D3PE oil cooling option? It uses the brake duct to cool an external oilcooler. Would be nice if they could do one on both sides for the intercooling as well. Could then use the aux cooler spot for a massive oilcooler and / or aux water cooler as well!
Tvs2650 looks really good but not sure if it would fit. I have seen testing done by Harrop and it can make the power!
Tvs2650 looks really good but not sure if it would fit. I have seen testing done by Harrop and it can make the power!
09-01-2017, 02:33 PM
#59
Could that be converted to a duel HE setup? Or maybe dual aux engine coolant rads?
Your solution is probably the more elegant as there is no cutting and it retains the brake cooling. If you opened up the area around the brake ducts you could probably get similar airflow to the other systems....
Your solution is probably the more elegant as there is no cutting and it retains the brake cooling. If you opened up the area around the brake ducts you could probably get similar airflow to the other systems....
Last edited by chuntington101; 09-01-2017 at 02:36 PM.
09-01-2017, 05:32 PM
#60
Former Vendor
Could that be converted to a duel HE setup? Or maybe dual aux engine coolant rads?
Your solution is probably the more elegant as there is no cutting and it retains the brake cooling. If you opened up the area around the brake ducts you could probably get similar airflow to the other systems....
Your solution is probably the more elegant as there is no cutting and it retains the brake cooling. If you opened up the area around the brake ducts you could probably get similar airflow to the other systems....