DSC Sport Shock Controller observations
#401
Intermediate
Having now had the DSC Controller on my 2015 Z06 for a couple of weeks, here are my observations:
1. The Controller, in combination with proper tire pressure, correct ride height at all four corners, and a front and rear alignment to DSC's specs (including rear caster) - and no dealer in SoCal except Rydell in Northridge seems to have the tools to set rear caster - makes a tremendous difference in keeping the rear wheels planted under aggressive acceleration. The wheelspin and rear kick-out problems that I was having are largely gone and the fun is back.
2. I got the device with the DSC OEM file. When driving on the bumpy LA freeways (particularly the 110 in and out of downtown LA), I could not tell that much difference between Tour and Sport.
3. I then downloaded and installed the Tour Plush file. That made more of a difference between the two settings, as Tour is now more compliant than Sport. "Plush" is a bit of a misnomer, however, as both Tour and Sport still provide a firm sports car ride, as one would expect.
4. I'm very happy with the product. Installation is easy once you figure out the rather dark close-up pictures on the installation sheet and where the two rubber release tabs are on the top of the controller tray in the car. It was not possible for me with one hand to release both tabs and pull the OEM controller out of the tray. What worked was to put a small screwdriver under the end of the controller in the tray and put a little outward pressure on it as you release the closest tab. That will pop the end out of the tray. Pushing back on the other rubber tab then pops the OEM controller completely out. Also, when installing the DSC controller into the cable socket, I used a bit of SuperLube on the outside of the DSC plug instead of the WD40 or silicon spray mentioned in the instructions, as WD40 is not really a lubricant and SL has better water sealing properties in any event. I also did not take the front wheel off and instead just turned it inward. I also put a piece of electrical tape over the plastic cap that covers the USB port to tape it down to the board as it did not look to me that the cap was tight enough not to fall off from vibration of the car.
1. The Controller, in combination with proper tire pressure, correct ride height at all four corners, and a front and rear alignment to DSC's specs (including rear caster) - and no dealer in SoCal except Rydell in Northridge seems to have the tools to set rear caster - makes a tremendous difference in keeping the rear wheels planted under aggressive acceleration. The wheelspin and rear kick-out problems that I was having are largely gone and the fun is back.
2. I got the device with the DSC OEM file. When driving on the bumpy LA freeways (particularly the 110 in and out of downtown LA), I could not tell that much difference between Tour and Sport.
3. I then downloaded and installed the Tour Plush file. That made more of a difference between the two settings, as Tour is now more compliant than Sport. "Plush" is a bit of a misnomer, however, as both Tour and Sport still provide a firm sports car ride, as one would expect.
4. I'm very happy with the product. Installation is easy once you figure out the rather dark close-up pictures on the installation sheet and where the two rubber release tabs are on the top of the controller tray in the car. It was not possible for me with one hand to release both tabs and pull the OEM controller out of the tray. What worked was to put a small screwdriver under the end of the controller in the tray and put a little outward pressure on it as you release the closest tab. That will pop the end out of the tray. Pushing back on the other rubber tab then pops the OEM controller completely out. Also, when installing the DSC controller into the cable socket, I used a bit of SuperLube on the outside of the DSC plug instead of the WD40 or silicon spray mentioned in the instructions, as WD40 is not really a lubricant and SL has better water sealing properties in any event. I also did not take the front wheel off and instead just turned it inward. I also put a piece of electrical tape over the plastic cap that covers the USB port to tape it down to the board as it did not look to me that the cap was tight enough not to fall off from vibration of the car.
Last edited by wjresq; 03-30-2017 at 08:03 PM. Reason: small update
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phantasms (03-29-2017)
#402
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4. I'm very happy with the product. Installation is easy once you figure out the rather dark close-up pictures on the installation sheet and where the two rubber release tabs are on the top of the controller tray in the car. It was not possible for me with one hand to release both tabs and pull the OEM controller out of the tray. What worked was to put a small screwdriver under the end of the controller in the tray and put a little outward pressure on it as you release the closest tab. That will pop the end out of the tray. Pushing back on the other rubber tab then pops the OEM controller completely out.
I also seem to remember there is a different, unrelated electrical relay/connector mounted sort of in the way of the bolt. I removed this connector to get easier access to the box. This connector is removed by sliding it out of it's mount. It mounts in/on two parallel guides which are like two "rails".
The wiring harness is secured to the controller by a rotating, locking lever. Pivot the lever up and it pops right out. Spray the connections as in the DSC instructions prior to installing the DSC controller.
Install in the reverse. Put the DSC controller in the factory holder and then reinstall and bolt the holder in place.
Really a piece of cake and I'm making it sound more complicated than it is. Hardest part was figuring out that the connector in the way is removed by sliding it on the "rails" that secure it and that the factory controller holder has a tang requiring lifting up before pulling it away from the fender and out.
Also, as stated above removing the wheel does not offer any benefit as just turning all the way to the left gives more than enough room. After removing the splash guard you also have to only remove 3 or 4 fender liner bolts/screws and fold the liner back to get access. I also DID NOT remove any of the push pins and had lots of room.
EDIT: I just saw Dif provided a tutorial with pictures for the install method I described above. He did a better job at it than I. Scroll down to Post #12 in the following thread to see his tutorial.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...post1594175754
Rick
Last edited by rikhek; 03-29-2017 at 12:58 PM.
#403
Melting Slicks
Controller was awesome at Sebring this weekend. I ran the Sport shock calibration in the Track setting and it just ate up the bumps. Never got around to trying the Tour calibration since things were so good.
#408
Melting Slicks
Originally Posted by rikhek
Sport 1 or Sport 2?
Last edited by spearfish25; 03-29-2017 at 05:24 PM.
#409
Safety Car
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I can't put into words the difference at Sebring with the DSC system and this was in a full blown race car which are very stiffly sprung. A person would have to drive the race car with and without the system to really appreciate the transformation. Words don't do the improved performance justice.
I picked up 2 seconds off the truck and was just cruising around like I was on a Sunday drive. Amazing experience as I had raced it the prior year in the same car and was beat damn near to death after 5 track days in a row...
Rick
Last edited by rikhek; 03-29-2017 at 05:28 PM.
#410
I was using Sport 1. I never feel like it's impacting my experience. I was considering Sport 2 or a Race since it's still pretty easy to spin in Sport 1 as my friend demonstrated when he hit dirt from an earlier incident on track. No surface flag from the corner worker either.
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spearfish25 (03-30-2017)
#413
Melting Slicks
#414
Instructor
I just received an email from Jordan @ DSC and he says...
"Wi-Fi is already in the [V2] controllers; we've just been holding off on releasing the authentication keys.
We expect to go live sometime in April."
Cheers,
We expect to go live sometime in April."
Last edited by DRTBYK; 03-30-2017 at 12:03 PM.
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peterjank (03-30-2017)
#416
Instructor
I could screw up a wet dream and apparently I have. I installed the controller this weekend and I turned the car on this morning to make sure the plush file was installed as ordered. The install was relatively easy and took under an hour. I could not get my computer to recognize the controller. I went ahead and fired the car up for the first time and the dash lit up with errors for stabilitrack, power steering and rear axle. I took the wheel off again and am now looking at the controller in the wheel well.
It appears to be hooked up correctly but neither the car nor my computer will recognize the controller. Does anyone have any suggestions?
It appears to be hooked up correctly but neither the car nor my computer will recognize the controller. Does anyone have any suggestions?
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I could screw up a wet dream and apparently I have. I installed the controller this weekend and I turned the car on this morning to make sure the plush file was installed as ordered. The install was relatively easy and took under an hour. I could not get my computer to recognize the controller. I went ahead and fired the car up for the first time and the dash lit up with errors for stabilitrack, power steering and rear axle. I took the wheel off again and am now looking at the controller in the wheel well.
It appears to be hooked up correctly but neither the car nor my computer will recognize the controller. Does anyone have any suggestions?
It appears to be hooked up correctly but neither the car nor my computer will recognize the controller. Does anyone have any suggestions?
Herman
Last edited by badhabit_wb; 04-02-2017 at 03:05 PM.
#418
Mine came in on Wednesday but I was out of town. I just got in and had a cold so I hadn't bothered to install it. I saw your post so I just opened the box and took the controller out and set everything up. Device manager shows it on my port 5 with the silicon labs driver but I can't communicate with it either. I'm using windows 10 and the port settings are the same on my laptop as on the tuner software. I know they were waiting on a batch of boards to ship mine on Tuesday so it could be a bad batch of boards or we could be doing something wrong. No idea which at this point but I'll keep playing with mine to see if I can get it to connect to the pc. I'll post back if I do get it connected and what I had to do to get it to connect.
Herman
Herman
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I have had connection problems as well over the past couple of months and since I am local, plan to drive to DSC to try to figure it out. A couple of observations, though. First, I know it is obvious, but after downloading Silabs driver, go to the download and run the install program. I know it seems obvious, but I didn't do it initially. And second, I am using Windows 10 with USB 3.0 ports, and I was told there may be a compatibility issue in that the controller or it's software was designed for USB 2.0. All of the above for what it's worth.
Last edited by badhabit_wb; 04-02-2017 at 03:35 PM.
#420
Instructor
I am having problems with both the laptop connection (which is a windows 10 surface pro) and it is not recognized by the car. The first problem is a frustration but the second problem is fatal. I'll call dsc tomorrow morning. It seems like someone else had this problem but I can't find the post.