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What were the times/traps? There are guys running 10.7's in good air with just DR's in Hellcats. You sure took him at the light.
You guys with these plates...you know by this time next year the Hellcat ADR's are going to be on the road right? I'd hate to be in a Vette with a plate like that and come up against one. The mules are running 9.8x's. No ****. Supposed to be factory DOT Drag Radials. Heck regular Hellcats vs Z06 are really a drivers race now. Either driver off their game and its game over. A great time to be a car guy...period.
Since 2005 I've had a blue GTO, G8 GXP, 2 Ford Mustangs, 2 laguna blue Vettes, and a jazz blue Charger SRT, so I love a blue car. Say what you want about this Challenger, this is one good looking car!
Since 2005 I've had a blue GTO, G8 GXP, 2 Ford Mustangs, 2 laguna blue Vettes, and a jazz blue Charger SRT, so I love a blue car. Say what you want about this Challenger, this is one good looking car!
I agree, and thought the same thing....that's a gorgeous Hellcat. I'm not a Dodge person but I really like Hellcats. You can't argue with their performance. Considering they weigh 1000lbs more then a C7Z and run right beside them in most competitions AND have a higher top speed...I really think they are engineered considerably better then a C7Z. They don't have nearly the quirks/issues C7Zs have other then weak driveshafts. They can easily run 9s for less then $5k in parts/labor and don't heat soak after a couple passes. The only negative against them is their weight...(and the fact they are a Dodge.... )
Funny thing is that I do love the challenger hellcat. When the ADR comes out, I'll go look at them. In the meantime, it's a funny way to poke at mopar fans
Love the power plant of the hellcat line up.. I even looked at hellcat before going C7... They're just too damn bulky, adding wider wheels and flares wont do much to fix that. No one racing rolls to the track with stock tires anyway. Hopefully they fixed the driveshaft issues, sad you have all that power stock add some DR's and you're on the brink of twisting the shaft off...
But I love that dodge is catering to one thing, kicking a** in a straight line .. Not worried about ring times, braking distance etc... Just raw power and go.
A win is a win...good job, just be aware that there are more 9 second hellcats out there with basic bolt-on's than pretty much any other new car out there.
The problem with comparing cars that are modded is the degree of modding of the two cars. You can only compare two modded cars if both have identical mods with identical horsepower/torque increase over stock horsepower/torque.
For example, trying to drag race this modded C6 Z06 with your modded C7 Z06.
DTW Z06, thinks for sharing and the sticker is catchy as well! I had a Hellcat Charger past me and the wife on the interest a few weeks ago. He pulled on the shoulder and waited for me to catch up. He then jumps on the side of me for a race. My car only had 300 miles or so on it at the time plus I had my wife in the car. I don't street race but I would have challenged him if I had been alone and with the car having the initial oil change... full power. Good kill and reaction time out the gates.... busted that A$$
Not too surprising when you consider the Hellcat weighs 3/4 of a ton more!:eek:
True.
When a car is modded all bets are off (IMO).
There is no realistic way in a street environment to measure the differences without a dyno.
Charger Hellcat.......4592 pounds with 707 HP = 6.49 lb/HP
C6 Z06......3175 pounds with 505 HP = 6.28 lb/HP. If the C6 Z06 weighed another 100 pounds, then it would be equal to the Charger hellcat in lb/HP. C6 Z06 weighs 1417 pounds less than the Charger hellcat, but has also 202 less horsepower.
C6 Z06 has a slight 0.21 lb/HP advantage in lb/HP over the Charger Hellcat.
C7 Z06.......3524 pounds with 650 HP = 5.42 lb/HP. The C7 Z07 weighs 1068 pounds less than the Charger Hellcat but only has 57 less horsepower.
C7 Z06 has a huge 1.07 lb/HP advantage in lb/HP over the Charger Hellcat.
You guys who have never raced against a stock Hellcat or have never seen a stock Hellcat race would be very surprised how close of a race it is with a stock Z06. At a half mile event I raced an A8 Hellcat Challenger 3 times and had good launches from a dig and even did a roll race. If I would have breathed wrong, or reacted a split second slower, that heavy Hellcat would have beaten me. I only beat it by less than a car every time. If they had better launches, I would have lost. On the half mile and mile events, they are usually the exact speed as the stage 1 aero A8 C7 Z06 if not faster MPH! Those heavy Hellcats are no joke in a straight line and I would proceed with caution. They pull like a freight train up top.
You guys who have never raced against a stock Hellcat or have never seen a stock Hellcat race would be very surprised how close of a race it is with a stock Z06. At a half mile event I raced an A8 Hellcat Challenger 3 times and had good launches from a dig and even did a roll race. If I would have breathed wrong, or reacted a split second slower, that heavy Hellcat would have beaten me. I only beat it by less than a car every time. If they had better launches, I would have lost. On the half mile and mile events, they are usually the exact speed as the stage 1 aero A8 C7 Z06 if not faster MPH! Those heavy Hellcats are no joke in a straight line and I would proceed with caution. They pull like a freight train up top.
Watch the video I posted of the Hellcat vs a C6 Z06 again. The C6 Z06 was in second gear when it went WOT(listen to the LS7 growl). The Hellcat had gone WOT earlier(listen to the supercharger whine). I don't know why the Z06 waited so long to go WOT after the Hellcat did, and that meant the Hellcat got a very decent jump on the C6 Z06.
Yet, the C6 Z06 was slowly catching up with the hellcat in second gear and when the C6 shifted into third gear around 90 MPH he really started to pull ahead, and when he shifted into fourth gear at around 125 MPH, he was leaving the Hellcat in his dust.
The Hellcat wasn't showing much above 90 MPH against the lowly C6 Z06. The C6 Z06 pulls pretty strong in fourth gear to 160 MPH. I really doubt the Hellcat could pull ahead of the C6 Z06 from 125 MPH to 160 MPH.
The Charger Hellcat has a .35 Cd and the C6 Z06 has a .34 Cd, but the C6 Z06 has a smaller frontal area. The C6 Z06 has the advantage in CdA. But, the Charger Hellcat has the CdA advantage over the C7 Z06 even though the C7 Z06 has a smaller frontal area vs the Hellcat.
Car & Driver reviewed the 2009 C6 Z06 when it first came out and did instrumented tests. 0-150 was done in 17.4 seconds.
Then Car & Driver reviewed the 2015 C7 Z06 when it first came out and did the same instrumented tests. 0-150 was done in 17.8 seconds.
If my reading ability is correct, the C6 Z06 reached 150 MPH before the C7 Z06 did.
I'm just going off of the many cars I have seen run at events and have ran myself. I don't care either way, just know a stock C6 Z has never come close to beating me MPH wise at these events.
Here is a video of a modded C6 Z06 at a half mile event. Running about what a stock C7 Z06 runs. Says in comments on another video from same event has about 565 RWHP.
Guys, my local track isn't known for being fast. I'm sure we'd be 4-5 tenths faster if we were at royal purple raceway or another fast track. Ennis is kinda slow, but close and fun
And I didn't post this to talk smack about the big dodge. I just thought it was a fun event and the race was cool. I have no brand loyalty, and love all fast cars. The sticker is just to poke fun at my friend and mopar loving coworkers. I had that sticker on my c6z too
Charger Hellcat.......4592 pounds with 707 HP = 6.49 lb/HP
C6 Z06......3175 pounds with 505 HP = 6.28 lb/HP. If the C6 Z06 weighed another 100 pounds, then it would be equal to the Charger hellcat in lb/HP. C6 Z06 weighs 1417 pounds less than the Charger hellcat, but has also 202 less horsepower.
C6 Z06 has a slight 0.21 lb/HP advantage in lb/HP over the Charger Hellcat.
C7 Z06.......3524 pounds with 650 HP = 5.42 lb/HP. The C7 Z07 weighs 1068 pounds less than the Charger Hellcat but only has 57 less horsepower.
C7 Z06 has a huge 1.07 lb/HP advantage in lb/HP over the Charger Hellcat.
Originally Posted by JoesC5
Watch the video I posted of the Hellcat vs a C6 Z06 again. The C6 Z06 was in second gear when it went WOT(listen to the LS7 growl). The Hellcat had gone WOT earlier(listen to the supercharger whine). I don't know why the Z06 waited so long to go WOT after the Hellcat did, and that meant the Hellcat got a very decent jump on the C6 Z06.
Yet, the C6 Z06 was slowly catching up with the hellcat in second gear and when the C6 shifted into third gear around 90 MPH he really started to pull ahead, and when he shifted into fourth gear at around 125 MPH, he was leaving the Hellcat in his dust.
The Hellcat wasn't showing much above 90 MPH against the lowly C6 Z06. The C6 Z06 pulls pretty strong in fourth gear to 160 MPH. I really doubt the Hellcat could pull ahead of the C6 Z06 from 125 MPH to 160 MPH.
The Charger Hellcat has a .35 Cd and the C6 Z06 has a .34 Cd, but the C6 Z06 has a smaller frontal area. The C6 Z06 has the advantage in CdA. But, the Charger Hellcat has the CdA advantage over the C7 Z06 even though the C7 Z06 has a smaller frontal area vs the Hellcat.
Originally Posted by JoesC5
Car & Driver reviewed the 2009 C6 Z06 when it first came out and did instrumented tests. 0-150 was done in 17.5 seconds.
Then Car & Driver reviewed the 2015 C7 Z06 when it first came out and did the same instrumented tests. 0-150 was done in 17.8 seconds.
If my reading ability is correct, the C6 Z06 reached 150 MPH before the C7 Z06 did.
Unfortunately, when Car & Driver reviewed the Charger Hellcat they moved the goalposts(so you couldn't directly compare the cars).
0-130 in 11.7 seconds and 0-170 MPH in 23.1 seconds for the Hellcat. No times for 0-150 MPH.
Sounds like you should go buy a C6Z since you are very fond of them. They are definitely the performance car bargain these days. They definitely do everything well.
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