7:13 'Ring Lap time from the C7 Z06
07-27-2017, 11:45 AM
#502
Team Owner
deniability if it came to light that the car was a ringer(not saying it was, but playing devils advocate).
Why wouldn't GM be pleased with the run? They have their base's covered. They got a time posted but don't have to back it up.
Ever since GMs debacle at the ring they turned their attention away from it.
07-27-2017, 12:30 PM
#504
Melting Slicks
Well, the C7 Z06 was not a GM owned car, and not set up by GM for the run, nor driven by a GM driver, nor videoed by a GM camera, nor were the results verified by GM, so who knows if it's a Ringer, or not.
At least the C6 Z06 and the C6 ZR1 were not ringers, or the new Camaro's, but were run by GM and verified by GM, not by outside of GM, individuals.
At least the C6 Z06 and the C6 ZR1 were not ringers, or the new Camaro's, but were run by GM and verified by GM, not by outside of GM, individuals.
But yeah, I guess you're right. It's a private owned car that's a ringer because GM didn't run the lap time...
07-27-2017, 12:33 PM
#505
Banned Scam/Spammer
"Debacle" at the Ring. Gotta love that one, the trolls are obviously still here and have chosen new talking points. Pure entertainment.
Who has decided not to purchase a Z06 because of anything that involves the "Ring"? I had an A8 Z06 and am looking to purchase an M7 and that's regardless of whether it does the almighty "Ring" in 8 minutes, 7:13 or 6:13, I could honestly care less like everyone else I know.
Who has decided not to purchase a Z06 because of anything that involves the "Ring"? I had an A8 Z06 and am looking to purchase an M7 and that's regardless of whether it does the almighty "Ring" in 8 minutes, 7:13 or 6:13, I could honestly care less like everyone else I know.
07-27-2017, 12:52 PM
#506
Team Owner
Was the driver a GM employee? Was the person who set the car up a GM employee? Was the Z06 run done by GM? If not...why?
If everyone who touched that Z06 was a GM employee, than why make it look like it was not a GM run at the Ring.
I'll stand by my posting about possible GM deniability, as they didn't follow the same protocol as with the C6 Z06, the C6 ZR1 and the new Camaros. Why would GM hand over one of their cars to a non employee "friend" and thus could be held accountable if something went wrong and someone was injured or killed?
If I showed up at a race track when GM had a Z06 there, would they hand me the keys and say "do what you please with it"?
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07-27-2017, 12:55 PM
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07-27-2017, 01:13 PM
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07-27-2017, 01:19 PM
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07-27-2017, 01:24 PM
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07-27-2017, 01:34 PM
#512
Melting Slicks
Crashes at race tracks are not unusual. Didn't GM crash the new ZR1 and that's why there is still no time?
07-27-2017, 05:03 PM
#514
Le Mans Master
True! ;)
"Debacle" at the Ring. Gotta love that one, the trolls are obviously still here and have chosen new talking points. Pure entertainment.
Who has decided not to purchase a Z06 because of anything that involves the "Ring"? I had an A8 Z06 and am looking to purchase an M7 and that's regardless of whether it does the almighty "Ring" in 8 minutes, 7:13 or 6:13, I could honestly care less like everyone else I know.
Who has decided not to purchase a Z06 because of anything that involves the "Ring"? I had an A8 Z06 and am looking to purchase an M7 and that's regardless of whether it does the almighty "Ring" in 8 minutes, 7:13 or 6:13, I could honestly care less like everyone else I know.
And of course some people do care!
But, I dare say nobody cares that youse (
's) don't care!
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07-27-2017, 08:11 PM
#515
Le Mans Master
It's blowing! :(
Raining, and a green track....
Not good especially for the New ACR!
$50K more!
(Store the cars and try again in a couple of weeks!?)
https://www.torquenews.com/106/dodge...45-nurburgring
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07-28-2017, 11:02 AM
#516
Melting Slicks
It's interesting that the Viper Ring run was 10 seconds faster than the ZO6 time yet was 2kph slower than the ZO6 on the final straight. ZO6 did 285kph and the Viper ACR did 283kph. That wing is helping them more on corner speed than top speed. I thought for sure the Viper would have more top end.
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07-28-2017, 11:16 AM
#517
It's interesting that the Viper Ring run was 10 seconds faster than the ZO6 time yet was 2kph slower than the ZO6 on the final straight. ZO6 did 285kph and the Viper ACR did 283kph. That wing is helping them more on corner speed than top speed. I thought for sure the Viper would have more top end.
07-28-2017, 11:22 AM
#518
It's interesting that the Viper Ring run was 10 seconds faster than the ZO6 time yet was 2kph slower than the ZO6 on the final straight. ZO6 did 285kph and the Viper ACR did 283kph. That wing is helping them more on corner speed than top speed. I thought for sure the Viper would have more top end.
For example, Red Bull F1 Racing won 4 World Championships in a row with the slowest car on the straights.
How?
Their car had the most DF of any car on the grid.
They were so much faster thru the twisty stuff, their speed on the straights didn't matter so much.
07-28-2017, 11:23 AM
#519
Le Mans Master
Thanks!!!!! ;)
It's interesting that the Viper Ring run was 10 seconds faster than the ZO6 time yet was 2kph slower than the ZO6 on the final straight. ZO6 did 285kph and the Viper ACR did 283kph. That wing is helping them more on corner speed than top speed. I thought for sure the Viper would have more top end.
The curve speed carrying Viper was 2 MPH off its top speed in probable wind encumbered by HUGE aero!
And!?!?
The ZO7 was 8-10 MPH off its top end with what seems a Mushy Throttle!?
We're moving forward today after all!
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07-28-2017, 11:26 AM
#520
Melting Slicks
Well, the ACR topped out at 278kph and the ZO6 did 273kph right before Metzgesfeld so the wing is more effective up to a point where the ACR pretty much falls flat at 283kph on the final straight. I'm still thinking a ZO6 will do a 7:06 lap or there about. The ZR1 is going to definitely outrun the ACR though. Farnbacher said he thought there might be 5 seconds more that would put it right there with the 918. The ZR1 will beat both IMHO.