CAI vs BMS filter
#61
Safety Car
Proven power at the strip!
However if I was out today to buy one it would be the 'Jake' GM one; looks good and keeps the car all GM.
Last edited by C7/Z06 Man; 07-15-2018 at 02:48 PM.
#62
Team Owner
I have said this before, maybe as of late this has changed but even though a 'lot more' Haltechs have been sold it seems the fast guys (9 second zone) know what to buy to go really fast i.e. the AFE cold air intake. They are easier to install (and remove) without cutting a thing and have a window for checking the filter without taking things apart; just like the new GM 'Jake' window performance ones.
Many more Halltechs out there. As long as your getting great results is the good news. Both are much better breathers than stock.
#63
Team Owner
#64
Safety Car
Right, just ask phantasms. He believed in Haltech so much that he had to buy '2' before he became disenchanted & went a different direction. I would also recommend you check the Z06 fast list to score the number of 9 second cars running the AFE compared to Haltech. One advertiser here sells/installs a 9 second kit with the Haltech intake but actually made their 9 second run with an AFE if you check their net video.
Last edited by C7/Z06 Man; 07-15-2018 at 03:18 PM.
#66
Team Owner
Right, just ask phantasms He believed in Haltech so much that he had to buy '2' before he became disenchanted & went a different direction. I would also recommend you check the Z06 fast list to score the number of 9 second cars running the AFE compared to Haltech. One advertiser here sells/installs a 9 second kit with the Haltech intake but actually made their 9 second run with an AFE if you check their net video.
The fast list doesn't list what kind of CAI is on the car. Plus If you haven't noticed all new Corvette's with 757 hp 787rwtq have a Halltech installed.
You must be a newbee! 100's of dyno's of the Halltech CAI getting 40 rwhp plus everytime it is installed! My tuner alone has seen 6 at least all made more than 40 rwhp. I own 2 of them and they work!
Last edited by 3 Z06ZR1; 07-16-2018 at 01:38 PM.
#67
Drifting
Phantasms? The guy who left the Corvette world? Who covered his whole Corvette with BERNIE stickers! OH yeah! Plenty of Nine seconds cars running HALLTECH intakes! FAR sold far more than the AFE. You are a fanboy of the AFE and that is it! Weapon X uses only Halltech as most vendors do most! Your a loner with the AFE!
The fast list doesn't list what kind of CAI is on the car. Plus If you haven't noticed all new Corvette's with 757 hp 787rwtq have a Halltech installed.
You must be a newbee! 100's of dyno's of the Halltech CAI getting 40 rwhp plus everytime it is installed! My tuner alone has seen 6 at least all made more than 40 rwhp. I own 2 of them and they work!
The fast list doesn't list what kind of CAI is on the car. Plus If you haven't noticed all new Corvette's with 757 hp 787rwtq have a Halltech installed.
You must be a newbee! 100's of dyno's of the Halltech CAI getting 40 rwhp plus everytime it is installed! My tuner alone has seen 6 at least all made more than 40 rwhp. I own 2 of them and they work!
sounds good but haven't seen any other dyno sheets. Not doubting you but its easy to say my tuner said this and he saw that. I'd like to see some real proof other than what the manufacturer came up with.
#68
Team Owner
I have this one of my bone stock A8 making 582rwhp 604 rwtq with the Halltech as the only mod. This Mustang dyno normally has A8's in the 540's
Last edited by 3 Z06ZR1; 07-16-2018 at 02:19 PM.
#69
Drifting
Did a quick search and can't find one dyno chart by a member here with just the Hallteck intake as the only mod. The manufacturer can make all the claims , as we've seen from K&N in the past, but unless I see an unbiased chart I find it hard to believe Oh. And from your posts I don't count you as unbiased.
#70
Drifting
I think the new GM airbox is a good design. It has more volume/plenum area in the box. I think this a great improvements and maybe the best air box out there right now. I think there is improvement to be made by replace the new filter with a better design filter that fits better at the seal area and improved thetransitions into the intake tube.
Weapon X makes a very nice air tube replacement that is a big improvement over the stock air tube, it removes all the air baffles for a smooth transition to the throttlebody. Also, it should allow the supercharger whine to be heard more.
Weapon X makes a very nice air tube replacement that is a big improvement over the stock air tube, it removes all the air baffles for a smooth transition to the throttlebody. Also, it should allow the supercharger whine to be heard more.
#71
Team Owner
Did a quick search and can't find one dyno chart by a member here with just the Hallteck intake as the only mod. The manufacturer can make all the claims , as we've seen from K&N in the past, but unless I see an unbiased chart I find it hard to believe Oh. And from your posts I don't count you as unbiased.
Refuse to buy one ! Hurt my feelings! Keep the stock intake and keep your car slow doesn't bother me what you do? Why would that matter! Here is the Haltech teamed with the 2300 and headers.
About 30 rwhp over a new ZR1 ! On a car 200 pounds lighter!
I don't work Halltech but anyone knows they have the intake with the most performance . 40 rwhp is normal!
#72
Drifting
Very hard to believe you did a search must have been real quick!
Refuse to buy one ! Hurt my feelings! Keep the stock intake and keep your car slow doesn't bother me what you do? Why would that matter! Here is the Haltech teamed with the 2300 and headers.
About 30 rwhp over a new ZR1 ! On a car 200 pounds lighter!
I don't work Halltech but anyone knows they have the intake with the most performance . 40 rwhp is normal!
Refuse to buy one ! Hurt my feelings! Keep the stock intake and keep your car slow doesn't bother me what you do? Why would that matter! Here is the Haltech teamed with the 2300 and headers.
About 30 rwhp over a new ZR1 ! On a car 200 pounds lighter!
I don't work Halltech but anyone knows they have the intake with the most performance . 40 rwhp is normal!
#73
Drifting
"Quote:
Originally Posted by Scoobydoobydoo
sounds good but haven't seen any other dyno sheets. Not doubting you but its easy to say my tuner said this and he saw that. I'd like to see some real proof other than what the manufacturer came up with.
Easy customers send in results because they like the Halltech you can do a search here. Or just go to Halltech website.
I have this one of my bone stock A8 making 582rwhp 604 rwtq with the Halltech as the only mod. This Mustang dyno normally has A8's in the 540's"
So again you really can't say what the Haltech added to YOUR car as you have no baseline of YOUR Z. You are relying on anecdotal reports from your dyno operator. He may see A8s in the 540 range, but we know nothing of the base of YOUR car. Without that your true gains are unknown.
Originally Posted by Scoobydoobydoo
sounds good but haven't seen any other dyno sheets. Not doubting you but its easy to say my tuner said this and he saw that. I'd like to see some real proof other than what the manufacturer came up with.
Easy customers send in results because they like the Halltech you can do a search here. Or just go to Halltech website.
I have this one of my bone stock A8 making 582rwhp 604 rwtq with the Halltech as the only mod. This Mustang dyno normally has A8's in the 540's"
So again you really can't say what the Haltech added to YOUR car as you have no baseline of YOUR Z. You are relying on anecdotal reports from your dyno operator. He may see A8s in the 540 range, but we know nothing of the base of YOUR car. Without that your true gains are unknown.
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#74
Team Owner
We know the ZR1 weights 3679 with 3 LZ with 1LZ is 3650
I have weighted mine 3 times 3450 full of fuel but mine is 1 lz and has about 50 pounds in weight reduction with headers, lighter blower, lighter wheels.
Even lighter with non run flat tires but I stopped running those.
I have weighted mine 3 times 3450 full of fuel but mine is 1 lz and has about 50 pounds in weight reduction with headers, lighter blower, lighter wheels.
Even lighter with non run flat tires but I stopped running those.
#75
Drifting
"Quote:
Originally Posted by Scoobydoobydoo
sounds good but haven't seen any other dyno sheets. Not doubting you but its easy to say my tuner said this and he saw that. I'd like to see some real proof other than what the manufacturer came up with.
Easy customers send in results because they like the Halltech you can do a search here. Or just go to Halltech website.
I have this one of my bone stock A8 making 582rwhp 604 rwtq with the Halltech as the only mod. This Mustang dyno normally has A8's in the 540's"
So again you really can't say what the Haltech added to YOUR car as you have no baseline of YOUR Z. You are relying on anecdotal reports from your dyno operator. He may see A8s in the 540 range, but we know nothing of the base of YOUR car. Without that your true gains are unknown.
Originally Posted by Scoobydoobydoo
sounds good but haven't seen any other dyno sheets. Not doubting you but its easy to say my tuner said this and he saw that. I'd like to see some real proof other than what the manufacturer came up with.
Easy customers send in results because they like the Halltech you can do a search here. Or just go to Halltech website.
I have this one of my bone stock A8 making 582rwhp 604 rwtq with the Halltech as the only mod. This Mustang dyno normally has A8's in the 540's"
So again you really can't say what the Haltech added to YOUR car as you have no baseline of YOUR Z. You are relying on anecdotal reports from your dyno operator. He may see A8s in the 540 range, but we know nothing of the base of YOUR car. Without that your true gains are unknown.
Exactly, I haven't found one "independent " dyno where the only variable was just the intake. Manufacturers can make all the claims they want but no hard data to be found.
#76
Racer
BMS Filter: Before and after Dyno on a bone-stock car . . .
Halltech CAI: Before and after Dyno on a bone-stock car . . .
Halltech CAI: Before and after Dyno on a bone-stock car . . .
Last edited by Sk8Man_; 07-18-2018 at 04:05 AM.
#77
Safety Car
Stock Vs BMS filter video above.
I maybe wrong but if you watch the video again I think he made a mistake. Right after the 4 dyno runs (two with each filter) he posted the two dyno charts; the first chart he posted up said they were the 'stock' runs which had the larger numbers then the second chart that was for the BMS filter. If the video is 'correct' his a$$ dyno needs some recalibrating.
Last edited by C7/Z06 Man; 10-14-2018 at 01:10 AM.
#78
Instructor
Having just installed the BMS filter yesterday on my 2017 Z06 (no CEL) I can vouch that it is very noticeable in terms of throttle response. It is very noticeable that the car is breathing better and it is eye opening on how much the stock filter was suffocating the engine.
#79
Having just installed the BMS filter yesterday on my 2017 Z06 (no CEL) I can vouch that it is very noticeable in terms of throttle response. It is very noticeable that the car is breathing better and it is eye opening on how much the stock filter was suffocating the engine.