ROD BROWN

I have noticed that some of the people that called me have old cellular phones and THEY have trouble calling me.Most people with newer phones can contact me without any problem.I am begining to believe my telephone doesn't recognize the older model phones.Just a guess.

Catalyst42

Been following this thread for a while and after seeing Flame Red's experience I decided to go for it. Just got the modules connected today and it seems like most things are working...still need to go through and check over everything.

The main thing I wanted to mention is the drive ve mode menu is gone. I somewhat expected this after Jeff V's observations. It seems like on the 2014 z51, you lose the menu. But 2015+ retains it. Not sure if this is a software setting that can be changed or a hardware difference, perhaps a version change in another module somewhere else...

My main reason for doing the upgrade was to get android auto and I'm OK with losing the drive mode menu so I'll be keeping it.

2014 3LT z51. No pdr, no front cameras.

I'll come back once I button the car back up and test some of the other functions. Just wanted to share my experience with the drive mode menu.

Edit: After some time with the upgrade, everything except the driving mode menu on the infotainment screen looks to be working as expected. The only additional comment I have is that my settings for this menu were retained after the swap. I've left it set to Engine sound management: off and steering control: Change with drive mode. Both of these are retained after the swap despite the menu being gone. What I don't know yet is if these will get reset if the battery dies or gets replaced, or if any other electric work is done on the car.

wingrunr21

I might give them a call and ask. Besides the security I think they introduced additional data points for the PDR in 2017 so this could also be a source of trouble.

I use the PDR a lot so I'm trying to figure this out.

This is why I'm suspicious that the hardware itself doesn't really matter (as it seems they've been using the same stuff since MY16), but that the firmware changes things. I may see if I can get some 2016 firmware on an HMI 2.5 module.

Jeff V.

When I bought my HMI, it had 15.2B033 on it. This is supposedly 2016 software. But then I was able to upgrade it to 16.3B020, which is 2017 software. I didn't have to do any tricks or workarounds. This was the version the GM programming application gave me. As far as I can tell, any changes were behind the scenes. Other than the version number, there's nothing new visible. I'm curious to see how far I could upgrade it before the GM system or the HMI itself stops me. If I can find another cheap HMI as a backup, I might try it.

Flame Red

If you do call, ask for Joe Mancinik manager of customer support. He is really good and cares. He can talk to the guys that do the programming. The sales guys will say everything works. 855-636-6287

wingrunr21

Well I need to get on this. Apple just announced Waze support in CarPlay for iOS 12

Z51VetteFan

wingrunr21

It was a small mention but they are adding support for 3rd party navigation apps.

Z51VetteFan

Apparently, I missed it toward the beginning. Not sure what I was doing. Must have been when I got up to get something to drink. Ill watch the first part of the keynote, over, again to see if I can spot it. Thanks!

n_brio

Anyone know if the software is different between a convertible and coupe or automatic vs m7?
if all need to be right it might get hard to find a 2016 with the same equipment.

Jeff V.

As far as I've seen, there isn't any difference between coupe, convertible, automatic and manual. There doesn't seem to be any difference between base, Z51, Z06 and Grand Sport either. The main concerns are factory navigation or not, UVC or UVJ camera system, and UQA or UQS sound.

n_brio

Is there any good places to decode vin number to see what option cars have?

ssidekickbp

I feel like we're very close to knowing what it takes to do this and retain the PDR. It's a matter of narrowing down the components and where the defect is in terms of whether it's software or hardware based. We need to find out if they changed those camera/video components on the 16's and up.

Z51VetteFan

n_brio

So there is no difference in software between z51 and the base suspention?

Jeff V.

Not where the HMI is concerned.

ben-1988

Hi guys,
sadly I'm not driving a corvette, but an european station wagon with the same IO6 HMI 2.5, hope you are OK with that
I'm looking for a easy way to activate a retrofitted rearview camera.
@Jeff V.
When I unterstood you correct you used factory programming, MDI and SPS, to programm your HMI with the calibration data of a different VIN.
So how does this work, isn't the Software always using the VIN it reads from the car?
If not what is with theft protection, wouldn't you just overwrite the HMI VIN and it would be theft locked?
Your Adelco subscription is running on the VIN of your car or on the this other VIN?
A short step by step guide would be great.

I know a lot of questions for a newbie, but any help would be greatly appreciated.

Jeff V.

The GM programming software reads the VIN from the car at the start of programming. But you can manually enter a different VIN at that point. If you have an AC Delco subscription, you need to have paid for each VIN. If you enter a VIN you haven't paid for, the program will close with an error that says you do not have a subscription for that VIN.

This is risky. Mixing and matching hardware and software from different cars and different years may not work. It's also possible to brick a module by loading the wrong software into it.

The theftlock is easier, at least for this. The module learns the car's real VIN when it reboots after being programmed. Other modules may be different.

I would not be surprised if GM closes these loopholes in the future.

ben-1988

Ah good to know, thank you.
I think this would be a good way to go for me.
As I'm not swapping the HMI at all, but just using a nearly equal equipped VIN with a RVC to calibrate, this should be fine.
This info really helped a lot, I will do a bit more research on this.

n_brio

I did get the modules today and was about to start programing but when im going to oick the right modules in the list the translation om my language was quite bad basically the same name on A11, A20, K73, K74.

Which is the correct one for the hmi and radio upgrade?