Tyler Chevrolet - Niles Michigan Dealer Vehicle Abuse
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I had a video of a dude passing on a 2 lane and ran 4 of us off the road, else it would have been a head on at high speed.
Video clearly showed his front plate, face and plates of cars he was passing. I called the Ohio highway patrol and even went in person to offer the video.
Was told if they are not there they cannot do a post arrest.
If I was taking my car in for such a minor repair I would never have left it. My dealer knows I always wait for my car and stroll by the service bays as it’s being worked on.
Video clearly showed his front plate, face and plates of cars he was passing. I called the Ohio highway patrol and even went in person to offer the video.
Was told if they are not there they cannot do a post arrest.
If I was taking my car in for such a minor repair I would never have left it. My dealer knows I always wait for my car and stroll by the service bays as it’s being worked on.
#102
GM hit me back and needs the file direct from PDR, not through YouTube, so I have to zip those up and transfer them. They don’t seem pleased. Also got a phone call from them. Am in hospital for some medical procedure stuff but should close loop on GM and police today after release.
10pm coverage from Monday night. This shows my mood a little better. Car looks mean. Scott Tyler is digging a deeper grave
10pm coverage from Monday night. This shows my mood a little better. Car looks mean. Scott Tyler is digging a deeper grave
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#104
Le Mans Master
move on and find another dealer is my opinion. I didn't see any damage to your car, traffic violations maybe but i don't think any compensation due to you and techs job none of your concern imo also you don't know the techs ability or qualifications, were you mad because it was a young lady. yes she was wrong but no damage to car so let dealer deal with it and quit crying about it on web. I have always found going to dealer best for satisfaction. my 2 cents worth.
Last edited by LT1driver; 11-15-2018 at 12:53 AM.
#105
Safety Car
The tech's job is absolutely his concern because he took the customer's car on an unauthorized joyride. How can any reasonable person not get that?
#106
Le Mans Master
No it is dealers concern not owner or yours, people need to deal with this type of problem like an adult not crybaby going on social media, but people are free to do as they please. my 2 cents unless owner knows for sure it could have been authorized test drive with irresponsible driving etc. so as i said let dealer take care of their business. what I did or do to my employees is none of anybodies business especially on social media, Nuff said
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#107
Racer
what I did or do to my employees is none of anybodies business
#108
Melting Slicks
No it is dealers concern not owner or yours, people need to deal with this type of problem like an adult not crybaby going on social media, but people are free to do as they please. my 2 cents unless owner knows for sure it could have been authorized test drive with irresponsible driving etc. so as i said let dealer take care of their business. what I did or do to my employees is none of anybodies business especially on social media, Nuff said
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#109
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I had a lengthy conversation about this subject with several of my Corvette buddies yesterday. What I find ironic is that we drive $90,000-$100,000+ cars, and yet we're hesitant to take them back to the dealer for oil changes, repairs, etc. I often wonder if Ferrari, Porsche, and Lamborghini owners feel the same way. My car is my passion and I want it treated as such.
Several years ago I took my Z06 to a local Chevrolet dealer a couple of times for an oil change. I'm not big on the dealership, but I know the technician very well and got to stay with my car and watch him change the oil. This same technician had done all the performance work on a my C5 at a private shop. After the oil change I heard some questionable rumors about the technician, so I decided to check the maintenance history on my car. When I checked, I found that my last oil change was not on my maintenance history, but warranty work for a "squeaky" dash was. Keep in mind I watched him put my car on the lift, change the oil, take it off the lift and back it out of the service bay. At no time did he enter my car to work on the dash, which by the way never had a squeak. What irritated me the most was that I had know this technician for years and considered him a good friend. When I called the service department and told them I wanted the warranty work removed from my vehicle history, they told me they couldn't do it. I then called the GM complaint line and told them the story. They didn't seem concerned at all, said there was nothing GM could do, and referred me back to the dealership. Admittedly, I got tired of getting the run around, and let the matter drop. I should have pursued it because in hindsight I know this tech was doing oil changes and other minor mechanical work and claiming time for nonexistent problems under warranty. What really bothers me is that I considered this person a trusted friend and he pulled the wool over my eyes. I know the dealership knows what was going on because it also happened to several other people I know. I haven't been back to the dealership or talked to the technician since.
As a side note, I should have know something was up when I asked what I owed and he said not to worry about it he'd "take care of it."
Several years ago I took my Z06 to a local Chevrolet dealer a couple of times for an oil change. I'm not big on the dealership, but I know the technician very well and got to stay with my car and watch him change the oil. This same technician had done all the performance work on a my C5 at a private shop. After the oil change I heard some questionable rumors about the technician, so I decided to check the maintenance history on my car. When I checked, I found that my last oil change was not on my maintenance history, but warranty work for a "squeaky" dash was. Keep in mind I watched him put my car on the lift, change the oil, take it off the lift and back it out of the service bay. At no time did he enter my car to work on the dash, which by the way never had a squeak. What irritated me the most was that I had know this technician for years and considered him a good friend. When I called the service department and told them I wanted the warranty work removed from my vehicle history, they told me they couldn't do it. I then called the GM complaint line and told them the story. They didn't seem concerned at all, said there was nothing GM could do, and referred me back to the dealership. Admittedly, I got tired of getting the run around, and let the matter drop. I should have pursued it because in hindsight I know this tech was doing oil changes and other minor mechanical work and claiming time for nonexistent problems under warranty. What really bothers me is that I considered this person a trusted friend and he pulled the wool over my eyes. I know the dealership knows what was going on because it also happened to several other people I know. I haven't been back to the dealership or talked to the technician since.
As a side note, I should have know something was up when I asked what I owed and he said not to worry about it he'd "take care of it."
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#110
Melting Slicks
I had a lengthy conversation about this subject with several of my Corvette buddies yesterday. What I find ironic is that we drive $90,000-$100,000+ cars, and yet we're hesitant to take them back to the dealer for oil changes, repairs, etc. I often wonder if Ferrari, Porsche, and Lamborghini owners feel the same way. My car is my passion and I want it treated as such.
Several years ago I took my Z06 to a local Chevrolet dealer a couple of times for an oil change. I'm not big on the dealership, but I know the technician very well and got to stay with my car and watch him change the oil. This same technician had done all the performance work on a my C5 at a private shop. After the oil change I heard some questionable rumors about the technician, so I decided to check the maintenance history on my car. When I checked, I found that my last oil change was not on my maintenance history, but warranty work for a "squeaky" dash was. Keep in mind I watched him put my car on the lift, change the oil, take it off the lift and back it out of the service bay. At no time did he enter my car to work on the dash, which by the way never had a squeak. What irritated me the most was that I had know this technician for years and considered him a good friend. When I called the service department and told them I wanted the warranty work removed from my vehicle history, they told me they couldn't do it. I then called the GM complaint line and told them the story. They didn't seem concerned at all, said there was nothing GM could do, and referred me back to the dealership. Admittedly, I got tired of getting the run around, and let the matter drop. I should have pursued it because in hindsight I know this tech was doing oil changes and other minor mechanical work and claiming time for nonexistent problems under warranty. What really bothers me is that I considered this person a trusted friend and he pulled the wool over my eyes. I know the dealership knows what was going on because it also happened to several other people I know. I haven't been back to the dealership or talked to the technician since.
As a side note, I should have know something was up when I asked what I owed and he said not to worry about it he'd "take care of it."
Several years ago I took my Z06 to a local Chevrolet dealer a couple of times for an oil change. I'm not big on the dealership, but I know the technician very well and got to stay with my car and watch him change the oil. This same technician had done all the performance work on a my C5 at a private shop. After the oil change I heard some questionable rumors about the technician, so I decided to check the maintenance history on my car. When I checked, I found that my last oil change was not on my maintenance history, but warranty work for a "squeaky" dash was. Keep in mind I watched him put my car on the lift, change the oil, take it off the lift and back it out of the service bay. At no time did he enter my car to work on the dash, which by the way never had a squeak. What irritated me the most was that I had know this technician for years and considered him a good friend. When I called the service department and told them I wanted the warranty work removed from my vehicle history, they told me they couldn't do it. I then called the GM complaint line and told them the story. They didn't seem concerned at all, said there was nothing GM could do, and referred me back to the dealership. Admittedly, I got tired of getting the run around, and let the matter drop. I should have pursued it because in hindsight I know this tech was doing oil changes and other minor mechanical work and claiming time for nonexistent problems under warranty. What really bothers me is that I considered this person a trusted friend and he pulled the wool over my eyes. I know the dealership knows what was going on because it also happened to several other people I know. I haven't been back to the dealership or talked to the technician since.
As a side note, I should have know something was up when I asked what I owed and he said not to worry about it he'd "take care of it."
If you can take the car to a dealership, like Criswell in Md, who sells a lot of Corvettes and has techs who work on them all day full time, these kind of problems are highly unusual. One can complain that it shouldn't be that way but reality is what it is regradless what your feelings may dictate.
There is a Chevy dealership about 2 miles up the road from me. The one and only Corvette tech freely admits he spends little time working on Corvettes due to the typical business this dealership does. For that reason I drive about 40 miles to the above mentioned Chevy store to do work I choose not to do myself.
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#111
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Well instead of the manager admitting this was a problem and taking care of it the right way, now the dealership is blasted all over social media, the news, has tons of bad reviews. The manager could have avoided ALL of this by reprimanding the tech and apologizing and compensating the owner. Clearly the service manager is a complete idiot. Literally.
#112
Well instead of the manager admitting this was a problem and taking care of it the right way, now the dealership is blasted all over social media, the news, has tons of bad reviews. The manager could have avoided ALL of this by reprimanding the tech and apologizing and compensating the owner. Clearly the service manager is a complete idiot. Literally.
So, oh well. News came to me on this one based on jalopnik article. I don't feel bad for telling the story, but it seems like case closed here. The sherrif office is taking the videos and they'll do whatever but I have no say in anything, which I'm totally fine with. I'm happy to report or tell the story but I'm not trying to force punishment. To me, the behavior and handling of it was pitiful. What an interesting week!
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If you can take the car to a dealership, like Criswell in Md, who sells a lot of Corvettes and has techs who work on them all day full time, these kind of problems are highly unusual. One can complain that it shouldn't be that way but reality is what it is regradless what your feelings may dictate.
#114
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When I purchased my C5 I took it to this dealership (not where I purchased my C5) because of the technician. He was touted as one of the best Corvette techs in the country. As I said, he did all the performance work on my C5, which included a supercharger, cam, headers, transmission upgrades, suspension, brakes, etc., etc. What angers me the most is that regardless of our friendship, he decided to submit a warranty claim for work that he didn't perform on my car instead of an oil change. In addition, the dealership knew what he was doing because it happened to several other people. What's even more amazing is that he's still working at the dealership.
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#116
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No it is dealers concern not owner or yours, people need to deal with this type of problem like an adult not crybaby going on social media, but people are free to do as they please. my 2 cents unless owner knows for sure it could have been authorized test drive with irresponsible driving etc. so as i said let dealer take care of their business. what I did or do to my employees is none of anybodies business especially on social media, Nuff said
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#117
Melting Slicks
Enough is enough already. We can't ever allow this to happen again. Nothing is happening to satisfy me/us. We must take action!
The media is of no help, police don't care, I am so hurt by their actions. I propose we all meet at the dealership with bull horns maybe a 100 or so in the MOB. When they resist we rush them, run the sales staff out of the offices and have a real sit in. Mean while some of the more angered people do a smash and grab on accessories and parts.
We must take action!
The media is of no help, police don't care, I am so hurt by their actions. I propose we all meet at the dealership with bull horns maybe a 100 or so in the MOB. When they resist we rush them, run the sales staff out of the offices and have a real sit in. Mean while some of the more angered people do a smash and grab on accessories and parts.
We must take action!
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Enough is enough already. We can't ever allow this to happen again. Nothing is happening to satisfy me/us. We must take action!
The media is of no help, police don't care, I am so hurt by their actions. I propose we all meet at the dealership with bull horns maybe a 100 or so in the MOB. When they resist we rush them, run the sales staff out of the offices and have a real sit in. Mean while some of the more angered people do a smash and grab on accessories and parts.
We must take action!
The media is of no help, police don't care, I am so hurt by their actions. I propose we all meet at the dealership with bull horns maybe a 100 or so in the MOB. When they resist we rush them, run the sales staff out of the offices and have a real sit in. Mean while some of the more angered people do a smash and grab on accessories and parts.
We must take action!
#119
Melting Slicks
I have no idea what goes on currently but I'd doubt anything has changed. When money is involved I have always found assume the worst and hope you get lucky..
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Drifting
Enough is enough already. We can't ever allow this to happen again. Nothing is happening to satisfy me/us. We must take action!
The media is of no help, police don't care, I am so hurt by their actions. I propose we all meet at the dealership with bull horns maybe a 100 or so in the MOB. When they resist we rush them, run the sales staff out of the offices and have a real sit in. Mean while some of the more angered people do a smash and grab on accessories and parts.
We must take action!
The media is of no help, police don't care, I am so hurt by their actions. I propose we all meet at the dealership with bull horns maybe a 100 or so in the MOB. When they resist we rush them, run the sales staff out of the offices and have a real sit in. Mean while some of the more angered people do a smash and grab on accessories and parts.
We must take action!