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I recently came across a few threads discussing a throttle body from a different vendor called Soler Engineering. They have a technical thread going on in the C7 tech forum. Has anyone tried their TB on a Z06 (preferably 2017 or later since these MY cars are more sensitive to TB changes)?
From what I gather, they do more than porting and also optimize the angle of the blade opening. I'm not well versed in the technical aspects here but they seem to be optimizing their TB more than the other favorites that get mentioned on here.
Anyone care to share their experience with this TB ?
2019Z M7. Took delivery March of this year. Was not happy at all with how the car performed/reacted off idle/at tip-in. Was very bummed, and then Soler Engineering suddenly appeared like an Angel in the night and saved me. Installed a Soler MTB on the car when it had less than 500 miles on the Odometer. TRANSFORMED my car - with regard to the horrible off idle stumble, lag, hesitation, whatever you want to call it. Car now has just over 1000 miles. Best reward per dollar spent on a mod I have EVER done on my cars (going back to 2001). I cant speak highly enough about this product and how it made me from "kinda not liking my car if I was in a parking lot" to "fully enjoying the car no matter what" - and I am a damn picky SOB when it comes to my cars.
I can be classified as one VERY satisfied Soler Engineering customer.
Last edited by ssmith512; Jun 6, 2019 at 01:41 PM.
2019 Z M7. Installed a Soler MTB on the car when it had less than 500 miles on the Odometer. TRANSFORMED my car - with regard to the horrible off idle stumble, lag, hesitation, whatever you want to call it. Car now has just over 1000 miles. Best reward per dollar spent on a mod I have EVER done on my cars (going back to 2001). I cant speak highly enough about this product and how it made me from "kinda not liking my car if I was in a parking lot" to "fully enjoying the car no matter what" - and I am a damn picky SOB when it comes to my cars.
I can be classified as one VERY satisfied Soler Engineering customer.
Thank you for your input. This is exactly what I’m hearing too from folks on the Stingray forum. I wasn’t sure if any of the later MY Z06 owners had tried it. Did you notice any changes to your fuel economy after the switch? And it seems like the improvements get more noticeable the more it gets driven as ECU learns. Is this true?
Also this vendor seems to have generated a lot of buzz in the past few months. I’m surprised I missed it. And they deserve it too with their deep technical analysis and responsiveness on the threads. Kudos to them.
Last edited by hubris140; Jun 6, 2019 at 01:44 PM.
Thank you for your input. This is exactly what I’m hearing too from folks on the Stingray forum. I wasn’t sure if any of the later MY Z06 owners had tried it. Did you notice any changes to your fuel economy after the switch? And it seems like the improvements get more noticeable the more it gets driven as ECU learns. Is this true?
Also this vendor seems to have generated a lot of buzz in the past few months. I’m surprised I missed it. And they deserve it too with their deep technical analysis and responsiveness on the threads. Kudos to them.
Glad to help.
I do not monitor fuel economy, so I apologize, I can not comment on that aspect.
If there have been any driving improvement with more miles driven, I cant honestly say that they were significant enough for me to notice them. I was admittedly so utterly amazed at the initial improvement the first time I drove the car after installing the Soler MTB, that any minor gain after that would probably not be noticed by me. LOL!! But to your point, I have also read that some do feel as if driveability got better the more they drove. I am not saying it doesnt happen, I simply can not be 100% honest and state the same. My car is just a joy to drive in stop and go, stop light to stop light traffic - it wasnt before.
Funny story - I have been driving manuals constantly for over 30 years. I cant remember the last time I stalled a manual car. The first time I drove my new Z, I stalled it 3 times - heck I traded in my 2012 GS M6 to get this car, so it was not like I was out of practice. I felt like a complete dork. I could NOT figure out the stupid throttle lag. I either stalled or slipped the clutch way too much cause the engine was screaming at 2000+RPM, there was no in-between for me. Post Soler MTB installation,... no stalls, no clutch over slipping, just reacts "normally" to small throttle inputs now.
Mine is an '18 A8 and I also installed the MTB from Solar Engineering and I could not be any happier with the results...outstanding! On a previous Z06 and before Solar Engineering was around, I purchase another vendor's ported throttle body. That was an M7 car and I experienced the stalling problem, especially on and inclined roads....and I learned on a manual transmission back in the early 60's and have driven them continuously since then! That PTB made the issue less painful, but it did not eliminate the problem...it minimized it, but it still existed and was still a PIA to live with.
I would venture to say if you go with the Solar product, Mike Cabnera will take very good care of you and you will be welled pleased at a reasonable price..
I have one installed on my 2017 Z06 A8. I followed the break-in procedure that was included with the throttle body and the car has driven perfectly for about 1500 miles now. It is much more responsive than stock. No codes, or problems so far. I can't really comment as to fuel economy, but for the driveability improvement it was well worth it!
Really appreciate the response you guys. I’m getting closer to placing an order.
Did any any of you already have a BMS filter installed? I have a bms filter on my car and wondering if it’s a cause for concern or codes if used in conjunction with the soler TB?
Yep, I put the BMS filter on first, probably about 2-300 miles before the Solar MTB. I really can't quantify which of the two did more for the car, but with the both together, it really jumps. I would only be guessing when I say this, but it would seem the BMS filter really kicks in when maximum air flow is asked for (peddle down hard), where as the MTB is getting you a much better air flow to pair up with the fuel flow. All I can say is the Solar unit went on second and I could really feel an acceleration snap that wasn't there prior to it's installation.
Yep, I put the BMS filter on first, probably about 2-300 miles before the Solar MTB. I really can't quantify which of the two did more for the car, but with the both together, it really jumps. I would only be guessing when I say this, but it would seem the BMS filter really kicks in when maximum air flow is asked for (peddle down hard), where as the MTB is getting you a much better air flow to pair up with the fuel flow. All I can say is the Solar unit went on second and I could really feel an acceleration snap that wasn't there prior to it's installation.
I just a couple of days ago installed one on my 2019 A8 Z06. I did the 8 hour battery disconnect and the recommended relearn procedure. I'm just approaching the 50 mile step of the process. As per the instructions I have not yet nailed the throttle, but I used to have a very noticeable stumble on deceleration that is now gone. And it overall seems definitely more responsive. Even with the relearn process I can see that it takes a while for everything to get comfortable with the new TB. So far very happy......
Yep, I put the BMS filter on first, probably about 2-300 miles before the Solar MTB. I really can't quantify which of the two did more for the car, but with the both together, it really jumps. I would only be guessing when I say this, but it would seem the BMS filter really kicks in when maximum air flow is asked for (peddle down hard), where as the MTB is getting you a much better air flow to pair up with the fuel flow. All I can say is the Solar unit went on second and I could really feel an acceleration snap that wasn't there prior to it's installation.
I'm the same as tzoid9. I had the BMS filter on for a few hundred miles before the Soler TB. The BMS filter is great, but it didn't help much with the lack of throttle response at low RPM. The car just felt dead until I was a third of the way into the pedal and then I was flying. The Soler unit is a gamechanger. It changed everything. The car drives like a normal car now, until you decide to release the horses. I can pull into and out of my garage now just using the clutch. Before, the car just about stalled out if I was lower than 900 RPMs.
The serial # on my Soler TB is #52. By this time next year, I predict Soler will just about dominate the ported TB market. You better get one while the price is still low.
By the way, I have a '17 M7 Z06 and I just got back from taking it for a spin with my new RPI cue ball shifter. Thanks tzoid9 for the recommendation on that buddy!
2019Z M7. Took delivery March of this year. Was not happy at all with how the car performed/reacted off idle/at tip-in. Was very bummed, and then Soler Engineering suddenly appeared like an Angel in the night and saved me. Installed a Soler MTB on the car when it had less than 500 miles on the Odometer. TRANSFORMED my car - with regard to the horrible off idle stumble, lag, hesitation, whatever you want to call it. Car now has just over 1000 miles. Best reward per dollar spent on a mod I have EVER done on my cars (going back to 2001). I cant speak highly enough about this product and how it made me from "kinda not liking my car if I was in a parking lot" to "fully enjoying the car no matter what" - and I am a damn picky SOB when it comes to my cars.
I can be classified as one VERY satisfied Soler Engineering customer.
I already had/have a BMS filter on mine as well. Before I installed the Soler TB I had a Mamo one on and it helped, but was even more happy with the Soler part.
Really appreciate the response you guys. I’m getting closer to placing an order.
Did any any of you already have a BMS filter installed? I have a bms filter on my car and wondering if it’s a cause for concern or codes if used in conjunction with the soler TB?
I had the BMS filter before I installed a PTB on my 2017 and had no issues with the ECU. Just added a borla x pipe and still no check engine light.