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A C7 Z06 owner takes a C7 ZR1 for a drive. The difference is bigger than you think

 
Old 07-11-2019, 08:41 PM
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I am sure it gets your attention, 100 H.P. will do that...my 997 TT on the 93 tune had approx. 603 WHP (on the 997 TT the parasitic loss is only about 8.5% to 10% so let's call it 654 BHP) but on the E85 tune she pulled over 715 WHP so BHP was well over 765 BHP. As my Engineering College major Son said, Yeah she is scary fast on 93 but she is like a spaceship on the E85.
Damn man, any pics of the porsche?????
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I know bro..Iím a suscribir to your channel and love your content. I also have the same color Z as you. Iím trying to find you on IG.
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Old 07-11-2019, 09:38 PM
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Ď19 ZR1 = Apex Predator
í15-Ď18 Z06 = Former Apex Predator

Z06 is completely adequate for the street. That said none of us seem to be the types that settle for adequate.

I love driving the ZR1 and the Z06.

Different strokes...

Let your bank account decide!
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Old 07-11-2019, 09:48 PM
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I'll wait the market out, in a few years I'll pick up a 19/ZR1 for sub $90k............just like all other models they fall in price.
What other models have been a 1 year run and the last of the front engine/manual transmission Corvettes?

I think you might be waiting a while for sub 90k.
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Old 07-11-2019, 10:05 PM
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Iím sure the power difference is noticeable but not 50k noticeable! But everyone had their opinion of course. Inside the cabin itís hard to tell itís a ZR1 or stingray if it same trim level but the exterior is obviously very different. Iím not a fan of the suede steering wheel or shifter at all. They look tacky to me but the suede on the seat is nice I think. So interior is all opinion also. Like others have said some will like it, others wonít. I think for a track car, the ZR1 looks good but for everyday use and overall looks, the cleaner look of the Z06 with stage 2/3 looks the best of any C7 by far. And for the price you can get one right now, one of the best performance bargains.
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Old 07-11-2019, 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by mmjsport View Post
Iím sure the power difference is noticeable but not 50k noticeable! But everyone had their opinion of course. Inside the cabin itís hard to tell itís a ZR1 or stingray if it same trim level but the exterior is obviously very different. Iím not a fan of the suede steering wheel or shifter at all. They look tacky to me but the suede on the seat is nice I think. So interior is all opinion also. Like others have said some will like it, others wonít. I think for a track car, the ZR1 looks good but for everyday use and overall looks, the cleaner look of the Z06 with stage 2/3 looks the best of any C7 by far. And for the price you can get one right now, one of the best performance bargains.
Agreed. Plus very simple to make the LT4 perform like the stock LT5. Cooling and everything. WITHOUT METH.
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Old 07-12-2019, 10:46 AM
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It's not just the 100hp difference that makes the zr1 worth it or not, you guys still dont understand. Lol

It's making all that power efficiently with a warranty. It's a better track/street car over the z06 period.

Sure you can make your z06 faster and more efficient than a zr1. But you throw away your warranty in the process. Most people don't wanna take that route.

Hence why the zr1 would be a better choice.
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Old 07-12-2019, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by RobGZ06 View Post
It's not just the 100hp difference that makes the zr1 worth it or not, you guys still dont understand. Lol

It's making all that power efficiently with a warranty. It's a better track/street car over the z06 period.

Sure you can make your z06 faster and more efficient than a zr1. But you throw away your warranty in the process. Most people don't wanna take that route.

Hence why the zr1 would be a better choice.

So pay 60K more for a powertrain warranty when you can spend 2-5K for some simple mods to make 100 HP, as simplified as one could describe it, I know I know, but this is the comparison. Chevy didn't do enough to differentiate the ZR1, they will still sell all of them for one year and we all ride off into the sunset when the C8 comes out.
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Old 07-12-2019, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by RobGZ06 View Post
It's not just the 100hp difference that makes the zr1 worth it or not, you guys still dont understand. Lol

It's making all that power efficiently with a warranty. It's a better track/street car over the z06 period.

Sure you can make your z06 faster and more efficient than a zr1. But you throw away your warranty in the process. Most people don't wanna take that route.

Hence why the zr1 would be a better choice.
At the end of the day it all comes down to this. My z06 is one that is faster and more efficient than a zr1 with about 13k in it. I voided my warranty of course, but I trust my performance shop and I am still 35k to the good when comparing to the 50k more cost of the zr1. Just my two cents.
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Old 07-12-2019, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by RobGZ06 View Post
I'll gladly take the LT5, better cooling, more effective aero, better front bumper, bigger supercharger, the ZR1 badge and most importantly, 755hp on a 100 degree day (so more power on a cooler day), all WITH a warranty over a z06. It's a better version of what our cars are, period. Of course that's why it costs that much more.

15k off, 30k off, even if you can get a brand new z06 for 50 grand, that will never make it better than a ZR1. All you got is a deal on a car that is still a lesser grade to the ZR1. ANd you still run into the same z06 problems anyway.

Hence why some people go for the upgrade from the z06 to the zr1.
I see your points, all valid.............IF you are tracking it, on the street, ehhhh........650HP is more than enough to get in trouble with.

As far as lesser grade, I disagree, the grade and quality of a Z06 and ZR1 is the same, interior, no difference, exterior yes, suspension tuning yes, HP, yes.........lesser grade I disagree with.

The Z06 problems everyone cries about are track related, mostly A8 issues, the Hat on the 2017 and newer addressed some of the issues, the extra cooling addressed it on the ZR1/A8 mostly for track use.

Since I am not tracking it, and would never track a VERT I could really care less about the 100HP, but again, I have a different need for my daily, and its been met with the Z06 just fine.

I have a 2009/LS9/ZR1 in my stable, I cannot drive it to its potential anywhere except a track or desolated highway @ 3am, same will be with my 2019 Z06..........eventually I'll add a ZR1 for the $40-$60k less than new, probably a garage queen again..........or when dealers choke on them in a few months the deals will be all over the place, seen some on lots for over 125 or 150 days........UNSOLD.

Discounts will come on new ones, and that drives used prices down with it............wait for it to happen,
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Old 07-12-2019, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Higgs Boson View Post
I had a 14 Stingray, a 16 Z06, currently a 17 Z06, and have spent meaningful time (weeks) in two different ZR1's and elected not to move to one because they do not feel any different to me than any other C7, except for the obvious (heavy throttle power, mostly).

If I didn't have so many modifications on my Z06 it may be a different decision to start modding with the LT5 instead of LT4 but at this point I couldn't justify it, especially with how similar the "rest" of the car feels. It's funny how people act like they are different cars....

I am just saying, already having a modded Z06, $140k for me would be better spent adding something different to the garage, like an AWD turbo car, rather than a swap to a marginal difference same car situation.

Just exercising my 1st Amendment rights, keep your panties straight. ;-)
Careful. Zr1 section tried to put a noose around my neck for saying these things.

The zr1 "feels" better. The 2019 Z06 and 2019 zr1 share virtually every chassis/suspension, transmission, and interior component. I haven't seen many videos of zr1s on track. All you feel on the street is 100 more HP, louder exhaust and a chip on your shoulder, "Look at these lesser corvettes".

Hell I've caught myself thinking that while driving my Z06. What an *******.

I must say I've never driven one and would love to.

Note I've driven my 2015 Z07 and my friends 2017 Z07 with the mag ride update and his car feels more refined. So really a 2019 vs 2019 comparison is what really should be done.

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Old 07-12-2019, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BrunoTheMellow View Post
Careful. Zr1 section tried to put a noose around my neck for saying these things.

The zr1 "feels" better. The 2019 Z06 and 2019 zr1 share virtually every chassis/suspension, transmission, and interior component. I haven't seen many videos of zr1s on track. All you feel on the street is 100 more HP, louder exhaust and a chip on your shoulder, "Look at these lesser corvettes".

Hell I've caught myself thinking that while driving my Z06. What an *******.

I must say I've never driven one and would love to.

Note I've driven my 2015 Z07 and my friends 2017 Z07 with the mag ride update and his car feels more refined. So really a 2019 vs 2019 comparison is what really should be done.
Wow!! I have a 19 Z06 and only thought they,(ZR1) shared the same fuel pump, gears ⚙️ and forgot the third if there was. But I think there was. All I can say is my 19M7 is fast 💨 🤷*♂️
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Wow!! I have a 19 Z06 and only thought they,(ZR1) shared the same fuel pump, gears ⚙️ and forgot the third if there was. But I think there was. All I can say is my 19M7 is fast 💨 🤷*♂️
All msrc c7 share shocks, control arms and any other chassis component except springs. It's just a parts swap. Just like a Camaro SS and Camaro Zl1.
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Old 07-12-2019, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Higgs Boson View Post
So pay 60K more for a powertrain warranty when you can spend 2-5K for some simple mods to make 100 HP, as simplified as one could describe it, I know I know, but this is the comparison. Chevy didn't do enough to differentiate the ZR1, they will still sell all of them for one year and we all ride off into the sunset when the C8 comes out.
2-5k to make 100hp? How? And is that with a tune? If so, no more warranty.

No big deal right? So look at prices for LT4's, not including labor. And even when that comes out to a cheaper option still, you're back to square one being a normal z06, that's stock. Then tune it again??? But then you go back to how you got there to begin with lmao. It's a losing battle.

Theres reasons why manufacturers have different tiers of performance models. The zr1 isnt just a model that was made for nothing. People do care about all the analytics.

If you have the money it's a better buy, because its the best version of the c7.
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Originally Posted by RobGZ06 View Post
2-5k to make 100hp? How? And is that with a tune? If so, no more warranty.

No big deal right? So look at prices for LT4's, not including labor. And even when that comes out to a cheaper option still, you're back to square one being a normal z06, that's stock. Then tune it again??? But then you go back to how you got there to begin with lmao. It's a losing battle.

Theres reasons why manufacturers have different tiers of performance models. The zr1 isnt just a model that was made for nothing. People do care about all the analytics.

If you have the money it's a better buy, because its the best version of the c7.
I don't really like to spend a lot of time arguing when it's all opinion....enjoy yours, all good, have fun.
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I agree. Well i can't enjoy a ZR1 because i don't have one lol

But the Z does it's job for what i use it for. Street driving only. If i was going to ever use my corvette for the track, i would definitely try to get the ZR1, instead of modifying a z06 because it's handicapped to do the job lol.
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Originally Posted by RobGZ06 View Post
I agree. Well i can't enjoy a ZR1 because i don't have one lol

But the Z does it's job for what i use it for. Street driving only. If i was going to ever use my corvette for the track, i would definitely try to get the ZR1, instead of modifying a z06 because it's handicapped to do the job lol.
Like I said above. They are both amazing cars in their own right!
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Hell I've caught myself thinking that while driving my Z06. What an *******.

Note I've driven my 2015 Z07 and my friends 2017 Z07 with the mag ride update and his car feels more refined. So really a 2019 vs 2019 comparison is what really should be done.
I thought you had a 2015 Z51?
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I thought you had a 2015 Z51?
Had.



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had.

Z06 power!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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