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I always do my own as well. Keep detailed records and receipts. But this is a roughly $15,000 motor and the first oil change was either never done or no records to indicate it was done. The owner is dead in the water if the engine blows and GM doesn’t want to cover the warranty.
I don’t want that hanging over my head. There will always be another car for sale. Yes I am being picky. 70 large is a lot of money.
Smart man. I had GM do my 500 mile break in oil change just so it's on record that the 500 mile oil change was done.
You're right, 70k is a lot of money. Get the car you think is the best deal. Or you can spend that 73k on the one on order
The only way i will ever buy a new car is to order it. Visiting these dealers with on line vehicles that are never there is bull **** and every car i ever ordered was flaw less. As far as used i see a lot of Corvettes (C7) out of warranty why buy it ?
I always do my own as well. Keep detailed records and receipts. But this is a roughly $15,000 motor and the first oil change was either never done or no records to indicate it was done. The owner is dead in the water if the engine blows and GM doesn’t want to cover the warranty.
I don’t want that hanging over my head. There will always be another car for sale. Yes I am being picky. 70 large is a lot of money.
From the original GM 500 mile bulletin (key words highlighted in red): Date: 11/24/2014 Ref. number: Service / Service Operations / G_0000205212 Subject: 2014/2015 Z51 and Z06 Corvettes – Additional Required Maintenance
"Some 2014/2015 Z51 and Z06 Corvettes may experience a condition that leads to oil leaking out from the air cleaner assembly. This condition may be caused by running the engine continuously at a high engine speed with the first factory fill oil, resulting in silicone sealants in the engine’s gaskets degrading the oil’s anti-foaming agents. The oil foam has no effect on the engine’s durability."
Given the caveating language ("may" x2, "had no effect on engine's durability") from GM, you should not have a warranty issue. I did the three initial oil changes on my Z myself (one reason is the dealer service sucks).
That said, it's your $. A 2019MY 1000-mi PDR equipped 2LZ C7Z in a color I liked, esp if M7, starting at $69k would be a no-brainer for me if I were serious about buying a car.
I contacted the Chevy dealer yesterday that is selling this car. Asked them to confirm the factory warranty will remain intact. They have not contacted me back.
This deal died before it ever got started. Even though it has less than 1,000 miles it has been in service for well over a year with no documented oil changes. Afraid of what would happen with GM if the engine ever blew and potentially being denied warranty coverage.
IMO Reasoning is off base. Should of bought it! I'm sure it is fine.
Being documented or not if an issue arises they can easily tell if you've changed the oil and maintained the car properly. They don't need documentation for that of there is ever a warranty claim for a new engine. They do plenty of investigating before they give the dealer the green light to order a new engine. They can tell a car maintained properly vs one that hasn't been.
Being documented or not if an issue arises they can easily tell if you've changed the oil and maintained the car properly. They don't need documentation for that of there is ever a warranty claim for a new engine. They do plenty of investigating before they give the dealer the green light to order a new engine. They can tell a car maintained properly vs one that hasn't been.
Agreed. But gm or all dealers will find any way they can to deny a warranty, especially a new engine. Having an oil change done especially the 500 mile break in gives you extra insurance so gm cant say the engine failed due to maintenance neglect.
The only way i will ever buy a new car is to order it. Visiting these dealers with on line vehicles that are never there is bull **** and every car i ever ordered was flaw less. As far as used i see a lot of Corvettes (C7) out of warranty why buy it ?
Right so if the ordered car comes with flaws you get stuck with repairs! Far rather see the car and inspect it BEFORE I buy!
Not up to me at this point. Contacted the dealer twice asking them to confirm the warranty is still in effect and not compromised. If they choose not to answer not much I can do.
I bowed out. Dealer confirmed they can find no proof oil/filter was changed. Its not worth the risk to me. If anyone is interested the car is at Chuck Hutton Chevrolet in Memphis TN.
500 miles more then the required 500 mile oil change isn’t a big deal. I would get confirmation from Gm and the dealer that the warranty is still in full force and effect and drive the car home for 65k. Call the manufacturer if the dealer won’t respond. I wouldn’t take anyone’s word over the phone. I would get something in writing from the manufacturer. If you have a Gm product today there should be a warranty booklet with an 800 number you can call with questions and ask for a written response.
. I think the dealer probably thinks your a nit picker pia. Which is perfectly fine for you to be. And you think the dealer is being a crook which fine for you to be.
the next question I have. Is would this dealer you would buy the car from would be the dealer doing all the work?
Last edited by Mr. Gizmo; Jan 8, 2020 at 02:48 PM.
500 miles more then the required 500 mile oil change isn’t a big deal. I would get confirmation from Gm and the dealer that the warranty is still in full force and effect and drive the car home for 65k. Call the manufacturer if the dealer won’t respond. I wouldn’t take anyone’s word over the phone. I would get something in writing from the manufacturer. If you have a Gm product today there should be a warranty booklet with an 800 number you can call with questions and ask for a written response.
. I think the dealer probably thinks your a nit picker pia. Which is perfectly fine for you to be. And you think the dealer is being a crook which fine for you to be.
the next question I have. Is would this dealer you would buy the car from would be the dealer doing all the work?
I don't think the dealer is a crook. My opinion is they just don't know the answer and are to lazy to find out and give me a call.
They would not be working on this car for me in the future, they are about 350 miles away.
Its not worth the effort to contact GM. There will always be another garage queen for sale.
I don't think the dealer is a crook. My opinion is they just don't know the answer and are to lazy to find out and give me a call.
They would not be working on this car for me in the future, they are about 350 miles away.
Its not worth the effort to contact GM. There will always be another garage queen for sale.
You can call Gm with the vin and just check that the warranty is in tact. Which I’m sure it is. There is no reason to expect a problem here. The car has 1000 miles on it? It’s fine. What is the issue here exactly? I’m not seeing it.
You can call Gm with the vin and just check that the warranty is in tact. Which I’m sure it is. There is no reason to expect a problem here. The car has 1000 miles on it? It’s fine. What is the issue here exactly? I’m not seeing it.
First oil change was never ever done on the car. GM states the first one should be done at 500 miles. Car has been in service for over 1 year and almost 1,000 miles. These days a car builder will find any excuse to not honor the warranty. If the engine blows and GM denies coverage stating the first oil change was not accomplished on time the owner could be screwed.
Why risk it? It is not a low number or rare car.
The link to the car is posted, Anyone is free to pursue it.
I just looked at the dealer's website. Car has 659 miles. It's an A8 and it has the bright aluminum wheels, which is a negative for me and maybe to few others. That car sounds very nice and I would bet the list/sicker price is somewhere in the 85K + area. That 500 mile change is certainly what any or all of us would like to have done, but it is fa from being a deal breaker, IMO. If they've had this on the lot for a couple of months, they should grab a $67K offer, but I'd still start at $65K.
I just looked at the dealer's website. Car has 659 miles. It's an A8 and it has the bright aluminum wheels, which is a negative for me and maybe to few others. That car sounds very nice and I would bet the list/sicker price is somewhere in the 85K + area. That 500 mile change is certainly what any or all of us would like to have done, but it is fa from being a deal breaker, IMO. If they've had this on the lot for a couple of months, they should grab a $67K offer, but I'd still start at $65K.
They can only grab 67k if it makes sense and they are making enough money at that price. If not they are gonna hold. Corvettes aren't like other every day cars they will take a small profit or even a loss on and not think twice. It's a specialty car and a buyer will come along eventually for a really nice car with a super low clock. No reason to lose money or take a very short deal.
You could be right about the dealer grabbing the $67K if it makes profitability sense.....but don't count on it. Your comment on the Corvette being a specialty vehicle is probably true, but that specialty vehicle works against the quick sale as well. I can't remember where this dealer was located, but it is winter time for much of the lower 48 and Corvettes are difficult to move at that time of the year. The dealers buy cars from the manufacturer with the manufacturer paying the price as part of the floor plan finances they provide with the dealer. Those floor plan costs kick in to the dealer generally after 60-90 days, $500-750 per month. This dealer who has this car will start feeling that burn soon (if not already), so he could be getting nervous at this time of year. And lastly, if GM still has that $11,000 rebate of left over 2019 Corvettes, there would be all kinds of room at $65-67K. This dealer could be just a hard *** who wants a ripe deal....not that long ago I read of a dealer who still has a 1987 Buick GNX in his inventory from 1987, still brand new, and he is now dead and his kid wants to get rid of the car....some of these dealers are loonie!
Couple of things. This is a used car so no rebates apply in this case. Second, when selling a used car a dealers only reason for being and bothering is to make money. Other wise why bother right? Winter? Yes. After winter comes spring which is ripe season to sell vettes and if he don't sell it now he will sell it later. Floor plan costs are part of the game. Your mentaility only really works when dealing with new cars. New car sales dealers are way more willing to bend on since they are all the same and all delaers pay the same thing for the same spec car. Not to mention there's an incentive near end of the money to hit certain sales objectives and if your getting close it's very possible a dealer will take a short deal or even lose money on a car or vette to achieve said objective since hes getting reto money back from GM per car if you hit the number. So again I hear you but it really doesn't always work the way you guys think it does. Owners of dealerships are a funny breed and if they have it in their head that they have to make a certain amount of money on a particular car they will hold steady sometimes till the cows come home. To their own detrement at times but that's how it is. It's their money and their store they can do what they want. I'm in the car business 28 years. Take my word on this.
Yep, your correct in most of these counts, I did forget this was a used car, not new. But in my experience, used cars fetched higher profit levels then new cars. What do you think the dealer’s true cost is?