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Old Mar 28, 2020 | 10:52 AM
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Very interesting. The Range website just shows the AFM Disabler for a 2019 Corvette when I put my car info in. I'm guessing it's the same for the Stingray and the Z06. Forgive my ignorance, but is the only difference between the blue, red, and green is the color of the light display?
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Old Mar 28, 2020 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by DevilDog II
Very interesting. The Range website just shows the AFM Disabler for a 2019 Corvette when I put my car info in. I'm guessing it's the same for the Stingray and the Z06. Forgive my ignorance, but is the only difference between the blue, red, and green is the color of the light display?
not ignorant at all...the difference is purely the color, nothing else!
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Old Mar 28, 2020 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by breakskeet
Callaway tunes the AFM out so the car will never go into V4 mode. If that doesn't hurt the car, I'm sure that something like the AFM disabler won't cause any damage.
sounds good except the afm lifters are junk . Especially in a higher hp engine.

Tune time performance just disassembled their 16 Z06 4k miles on it about 2k of them with a 2300 and LTs and entire time V4 was tuned out. Car was running mid 9s at 140ish.

Said several afm lifters are trashed actual grooved in the cam as well.. also said blower filled with oil. Heads and valves all cooked up... looking at catch can now. Didnt plan on 4k miles having that bad of an issue.

Just food for thought. Have to be careful with catch can as some dealers will give you **** over it.

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Old Mar 29, 2020 | 04:26 AM
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COMMENTS BY RANGE:
Being a DISABLER, by definition, you will NOT see V4 Mode
. On the latest AFM DISABLER Modules, the four blue lights are basically to indicate the unit is operating.
THEY WILL GO OUT WHEN THE VEHICLE IS NOT RUNNING as described below (Power Saving). The lights are as follows:
  • LED #1 - Power is ON and unit is AWAKE and vehicle is ready for commands
  • LED #2 - RPM > 500 and Engine is Running (not cranking or stalled)
  • LED #3 - Vehicle V8 mode is legal (no engine damaging DTCs present or other parameters out of spec)
  • LED #4 - In active command mode and controlling the AFM
When you first plug the module into the OBD2 port, you may see the LED cycle in a pattern (units produced after Sept. 22rd 2014) which is just an indication that it is performing
internal hardware diagnostic checks before going into full operating mode. Earlier modules may not cycle the LEDs (but still perform the hardware checks in "silent" mode).

During operation, it is normal to see the lights cycle and go on/off in different sequences sometimes appearing to dim or vary in brightness (or even almost go dark). The lights
are not really useful to you as the driver, but are used more for diagnostic or status indications when doing troubleshooting/verification. You will see the lights dim dramatically
as you slow down/brake. As long as the vehicle is staying in V8 the unit is operating normally.

Also, the units have a "SLEEP" mode where after you shut the key off and/or the engine is not running. All the LIGHTS WILL GO OUT and it will go into power saving mode.

This power saving mode is EXTREMELY low powered and on a normal capacity battery in normal temperatures (i.e. ~70 degrees F) it should not affect normal battery
voltage/charge for at least a couple of weeks (and probably much longer). The maximum draw in sleep mode is 6mA (and is nominally about 2-3mA).


The device will wake up again when you start the engine and the LEDs may cycle 2-3 times as the unit performs internal diagnostics. Earlier versions may not cycle the LEDs.
It may take up to 20 seconds (usually less) for it to start showing lights again ... this is NORMAL because it may take that long before we can send commands to the vehicle
(especially on a cold motor).
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Old Mar 29, 2020 | 09:38 AM
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I bought mine off Amazon and it came with the latest firmware. My car regularly sits for more than a week, no starting issues at all. I do not use a battery tender...
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Old Mar 29, 2020 | 10:59 AM
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I had one back when I had my A8. Never had any issues with it or battery drain. Plug it in and forget it.
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Old Mar 29, 2020 | 11:36 AM
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This is interesting. I found it on the "On All Cylinders" website. Is this where a catch can comes in?

Engines with AFM use a high-volume oil pump. When you eliminate the AFM system, the extra oil is no longer needed. Excess oil will be pushed out of the pressure relief valve into the oil pan. This will spray oil on the bottom of the cylinder walls which can cause oil burning, especially in high-rpm engines.
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Old Mar 29, 2020 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by DevilDog II
This is interesting. I found it on the "On All Cylinders" website. Is this where a catch can comes in?

Engines with AFM use a high-volume oil pump. When you eliminate the AFM system, the extra oil is no longer needed. Excess oil will be pushed out of the pressure relief valve into the oil pan. This will spray oil on the bottom of the cylinder walls which can cause oil burning, especially in high-rpm engines.
Really? I can't speak for any engines modified and probably tuned as well, but for the standard, garden variety, C7 Z06 engine, I have never heard of anyone saying their car burns oil, at least that I can remember. That's an interesting peculiarity if it's relevant for the stock engine that's not been horse whipped and abused..
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Old Mar 29, 2020 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by DevilDog II
This is interesting. I found it on the "On All Cylinders" website. Is this where a catch can comes in?

Engines with AFM use a high-volume oil pump. When you eliminate the AFM system, the extra oil is no longer needed. Excess oil will be pushed out of the pressure relief valve into the oil pan. This will spray oil on the bottom of the cylinder walls which can cause oil burning, especially in high-rpm engines.
The device (or even a tune) does not eliminate the AFM system, it simply locks it in V8 mode. Since the vehicle is in V8 mode 90 percent of the time anyway, can't see anything like this being an issue. Besides, the device has been in use for a long time now and I've never seen one post about it causing any issues with the engine. Some early units may have caused excessive battery drain, but that's the only worry I've ever seen posted.
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I ordered one from Range and it should be here Friday. Anxious to see how it works.
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Old Mar 31, 2020 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by DevilDog II
I ordered one from Range and it should be here Friday. Anxious to see how it works.
Works like a charm. You'll be glad you got it for at least some piece of mind
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Old Apr 2, 2020 | 03:23 PM
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My Range AFM Disabler arrived today . . . a day early. Plugged it in and took it for a drive. Actually, the first time I've driven it since taking it out of storage last week. I don't know if it's the disabler or the fact that I haven't driven my car in 5 months, but it seems slightly more responsive. What's really nice is it not going into 4-cylinder mode. I only put about 40 miles on today, but it seems like a winner at this point.
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Old Apr 2, 2020 | 03:41 PM
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Yep, if you have the A8 transmission, this little gadget is a winner!!
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Old Apr 14, 2020 | 11:41 AM
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Have a Range on my 16 Tahoe. Love it, but it killed my battery when I was on a work trip and the truck was parked. Mailed Range my device for them to reflash with the latest update. Should have it back next week. Lesson learned, will stay unplugged if the car is going to sit.
In the vette, just use manual mode to avoid AFM

The people at Range are awesome. They tested my device, noticed it was corrupted, reprogrammed and sent it back. All free of charge on a 5yr old unit. Can’t ask for better customer service.
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does anyone leave their range unit in all the time with the battery tender on, has anyone had any issue doing that?
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Originally Posted by Boodaddy32
does anyone leave their range unit in all the time with the battery tender on, has anyone had any issue doing that?
I do. Mine is plugged in right now with the tender. It went for two months like this earlier this year and no issues.
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Old Dec 2, 2023 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Boodaddy32
does anyone leave their range unit in all the time with the battery tender on, has anyone had any issue doing that?
Yes, I leave mine in all the time. Haven't had an issue with it on or off the tender.
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thanks all for the response.
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