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What’s up everyone, hoping to get some advice on Z06’s I’m looking at. Going used route because I hate taking the hit on new cars lol
Im stuck between a few Z06’s in my area but not sure which one is the better buy. Ideally, when going used I aim to get the lowest miles but in this case one option has the Z07 package with the highest miles out of the three I’m looking at.
For what it's worth, I bought option 2 last fall with 11k miles for $64k. I love the car. I don't plan on tracking the car, though, so Z07 wasn't important to me. You really can't go wrong with any of your options. Revised blower lid on the 2017 might be nice for track use, but you'd lose your Z07 bits. I don't know how skilled you are on the track, but I'd think you'd need to be pretty serious behind the wheel to realize the Z07 benefit. If you're just looking for the occasional track day fun, then maybe saving $2k and having half the miles on the car would make option 2 the better option. What tranny does each option have? Are they all A8s? Mine's an M7...great fun on the road.
I'd opt for number 2. If serious about track, you can run some really good pads and still get very good braking. The cc brakes can be cooked after a few sessions so a few opt to run steel rotors anyways. The cooling upgrade works for whst it is and these cars require even more depending on conditions.
3LZ always had me worried about delamination which was a c6 complaint I had in the past and seemed to continue to c7.
Hard choice, I bought my 2016 Z07 3LZ A8 with 6,200 miles in the spring of 2017 for $69,000 + tax. I love the carbon brakes for the street (extremely strong & no dust). The stiffer suspension and the tires that come on a Z07 are not a plus for street driving. I would still buy what I did but I was willing to get a second set of street tires and a aftermarket suspension controller. If you track a lot of the time I would go with option 2 and put the carbon ceramic pads on it.
Last edited by jstewart; Apr 11, 2020 at 11:43 AM.
Buy Ceramic Brake Pads, slide them in, almost no brake dust.
Lowest miles with the highest option package is my vote.
Z07 is nice, its expensive, most guys that track put steel rotors on because they don't want to eat $13k worth of rotors up tracking the car, LOL
Def not serious on the track, I don’t plan on tracking too much. If anything, 1-2 times a year most likely. It would just be for fun and I’ve never tracked a car so this would be my first time. Also understand the CC’s are crazy expensive and costly to replace. Option 3 is torch red as well A8. Maybe they’ll drop the price, 2k miles is extremely low...I would Also be daily driving this thing rain / shine. Commute to work is under 10 miles round trip.
Originally Posted by SladeX
I'd opt for number 2. If serious about track, you can run some really good pads and still get very good braking. The cc brakes can be cooked after a few sessions so a few opt to run steel rotors anyways. The cooling upgrade works for whst it is and these cars require even more depending on conditions.
3LZ always had me worried about delamination which was a c6 complaint I had in the past and seemed to continue to c7.
Think you’re right. After reading everyone’s reply I don’t think I’ll be too serious on the track. I do love canyon runs though so I’d also like to be prepared performance wise, brakes get fairly hot on those windy roads which is why I felt the CC’s would be something to consider. Good to note on the delamination, I’ll be sure to look for that as I look at these Z’s more in person.
Originally Posted by FiftyFiv3
I paid $64k for option 1, same miles a year ago. Maybe there's flexibility in that price? Love my car.
I’m trying! Hoping they’re flexible on price. At this point it’s been a stand still waiting for them to get back to me hah
Originally Posted by Track
For straight track the Z07 is great. If you mainly drive on the street, I feel it's a negative, though.
yup, primarily street driving. Thinking option 2 at this point.
Originally Posted by gbranham
For what it's worth, I bought option 2 last fall with 11k miles for $64k. I love the car. I don't plan on tracking the car, though, so Z07 wasn't important to me. You really can't go wrong with any of your options. Revised blower lid on the 2017 might be nice for track use, but you'd lose your Z07 bits. I don't know how skilled you are on the track, but I'd think you'd need to be pretty serious behind the wheel to realize the Z07 benefit. If you're just looking for the occasional track day fun, then maybe saving $2k and having half the miles on the car would make option 2 the better option. What tranny does each option have? Are they all A8s? Mine's an M7...great fun on the road.
haha no skills at all for the track, yet. Just been something I’ve always wanted to do. Have a buddy with a C7Z and a 911 Turbo s that track occasionally. Mainly canyon runs throughout the nicer days. They’re all A8’s as well. I figured any option would be great, **** a base model Z 1LZ package is still crazy. Aero packages can also be purchased and added on after wards anyways so I’m leaning towards Option 2. Seeing all the comments about the costly replacement parts for the Z07, I’m thinking I’ll opt out of that one. Tires are another story haha
Hard choice, I bought my 2016 Z07 3LZ A8 with 6,200 miles in the spring of 2017 for $69,000 + tax. I love the carbon brakes for the street (extremely strong & no dust). The stiffer suspension and the tires that come on a Z07 are not a plus for street driving. I would still buy what I did but I was willing to get a second set of street tires and a aftermarket suspension controller. If you track a lot of the time I would go with option 2 and put the carbon ceramic pads on it.
That’s an incredible deal especially at the time you purchased it. I live in Oregon, so there’s no tax fees out here so I’m guessing that’s why prices are alittle more on this side. When I search nation wide, California has some crazy deals but I then think about taxes and fees hah. Does the 2016 model really over heat if you beat on it? I sometimes drive in Canyons for an hour or two with some buddies, def don’t want to over heat the brakes either. Are standard brake / slotted rotors good enough for canyon / track use?
From: 2007 Nat'l Corvette Challenge 11.50 index Champ. New Jersey
Based on what you've written, if I were you I'd go with option #2.
Mind you I have a Z07, but if I had to do it over again, I may opt to NOT get the Z07 unless it's a steal of a deal, which I sort of got on my 2018 that I got in very late August of 2019. Sticker was $108,000. I paid $73,000.
Ron
Last edited by Dr.Ron; Apr 11, 2020 at 07:36 PM.
Reason: added to my post
It is always easier to buy high and downgrade low, than it is to upgrade to high later.
A "minor" point about the Z07 package:
(from a mcmulkin dealership response to the question)
The following information comes directly from the Chief Suspension Engineer at Corvette.
The suspension on Z07 equipped Z06s is stiffer than non-Z07 equipped Z06s. The springs, shocks, Magnetic Selective Ride Control calibration and stabilizer bar bushings are different between the two.
The front spring has a 62% higher rate on the Z07 than the standard Z06. The rear spring has a 22% higher rate on the Z07 than the standard Z06.
The different stabilizer bar bushings help the Z07 achieve an appropriate understeer level.
The Magnetic Selective Ride Control shocks on the Z07 have a tighter gap which means a higher “passive” curve in addition to a more aggressive MRSC damping tuning.
it is my understanding the Z07 bushings are long-life plastic like delrin, not wear-out rubber as on the Z06
the rotors on the Z07 are 15.6 and 15.3 vs Z06 at 14.6 and 14.4
Yeah, for sure Z06 performance be zactly the same as a z07 around a high speed curve.
You wanna track, cheap? at least 3 vendors offer steelie set packages for the CCB's, bolt off, bolt on. Probably less than one MSRP CCB rotor . Addl steelie rotors required for the steely sets mucho cheapo.
as you can see for yourself on the prices above, the second buyer of the Z06/Z07 packages enjoys the haircut the first owner took on buying at least an $11k package, and it selling for pennies more than a base Z06.
Cause bet owners be like "i'm in to $10k luxury, not $11k performance options" WTF, this Z07 has the $10k Luxury options too!
Naw, don't buy it, not needed. Buying extra performance for the Z06 be like buying extra luxury for the Cadillac.
Pay no attention to the smile on my face: vert, A8, and Z07. course I got $23k off from MSRP on a new Clearance. Don't feel I paid the Z07 haircut tax, but the dealer gave me a gimme cap just in case:
Last edited by SilverGhost; Apr 11, 2020 at 01:11 PM.
Option 1 all the way. If just a street car those CC brakes will last a very long time and are great brakes. 3LZ and Z07 is top of the line at a bargain price.
Or look at the c7 Corvettes for Sale section. 2019 Black 2LZ, 4,600 miles, $67k (if I'm remembering correctly). GTX John is the member selling it
replied to this then deleted because I thought I replied to a random post haha...But I’ll be trading in my current car so it would be a headache trying to sell privately, then to look for the C7 out of state. I’m hoping by waiting a bit some pop up on the market in my area.
that 2019 deal hurts me though, can’t believe it’s that low.
Yeah, for sure Z06 performance be zactly the same as a z07 around a high speed curve.
You wanna track, cheap? at least 3 vendors offer steelie set packages for the CCB's, bolt off, bolt on. Probably less than one MSRP CCB rotor . Addl steelie rotors required for the steely sets mucho cheapo.
as you can see for yourself on the prices above, the second buyer of the Z06/Z07 packages enjoys the haircut the first owner took on buying at least an $11k package, and it selling for pennies more than a base Z06.
Cause bet owners be like "i'm in to $10k luxury, not $11k performance options" WTF, this Z07 has the $10k Luxury options too!
Naw, don't buy it, not needed. Buying extra performance for the Z06 be like buying extra luxury for the Cadillac.
Pay no attention to the smile on my face: vert, A8, and Z07. course I got $23k off from MSRP on a new Clearance. Don't feel I paid the Z07 haircut tax:
hah! Digging the Hawaiian shirt my man. Def look like a proud new owner. Love the color you went with...Def made some good points, I think at my level any Z06 would be fine. Just comes down to price and personal preference.
Originally Posted by saleen556
Option 1 all the way. If just a street car those CC brakes will last a very long time and are great brakes. 3LZ and Z07 is top of the line at a bargain price.
noted. Def considering at this point...Option 2 sold, so I may go look into Option 1 today. Appreciate it, my buddy with CCB’s said the same thing...They’ll last awhile for street / road use. Track is a different story.
Drove from Fort Lauderdale to Massena New York and back again to pickup my car. It was 90 degrees on June 1 in FTL last year. It was 35 overnight and a balmy 62 degrees when we left Massena for the drive home. It felt colder to a Florida boy! I thought all the US enjoyed the summer weather by June. I left my Z51 behind at the dealership, My Bad, it was cruel and unusual punishment.
Drove from Fort Lauderdale to Massena New York and back again to pickup my car. It was 90 degrees on June 1 in FTL last year. It was 35 overnight and a balmy 62 degrees when we left Massena for the drive home. It felt colder to a Florida boy! I thought all the US enjoyed the summer weather by June. I left my Z51 behind at the dealership, My Bad, it was cruel and unusual punishment.
Florida seems amazing to drive a vette out there, I’m a Cali boy but currently living in Portland, Oregon. Lots of rain on this side...
For straight track the Z07 is great. If you mainly drive on the street, I feel it's a negative, though.
Why? I have a Z07 and honestly don't know why anybody would buy a 650HP car and not get the giant fade-resistant, light weght rotors and their massive calipers. Plus, the wheels and suspension parts stay much cleaner. Most importantly, they look really cool
Why? I have a Z07 and honestly don't know why anybody would buy a 650HP car and not get the giant fade-resistant, light weght rotors and their massive calipers. Plus, the wheels and suspension parts stay much cleaner. Most importantly, they look really cool
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