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Old Nov 8, 2020 | 11:07 AM
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Just did my initial oil change at 725 miles used 0-40 mobil 1 and a standard pf64 oil filter. Meet up with some vette people and one person sail the standard PF 64 is not good enough for the Zo6.
Said it should be the pf64(gold) or a mobil 1 113.
Also said a Zo6 should have a 2nd oil change at 1k miles, that I have never heard of.
Guys let me know please
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Old Nov 8, 2020 | 12:02 PM
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It’s true the current PF64 isn’t as good as the
earlier one. If choose the Mobil 1 make sure it’s the 113a
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Old Nov 8, 2020 | 12:07 PM
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I can live with " not as good " but I was told they can rip apart inside ?? I don't believe this but don't want to take any chances for $12
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Old Nov 8, 2020 | 12:41 PM
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I'd suggest you meet up with better informed people.

1. The reason for the 500 mile oil change is to eliminate any contamination from the initial sealer used to assemble parts of the engine. There is no need to change again at 1000 miles. Just follow the oil change prompt on the cockpit display

2. The current PF 64 filter is just fine. A c7 Z06 doesn' have either a lot of oil pressure and/or excessive flow rate. I just cut apart a recent PF64 filter after 5500 miles with a lot of high rpm running. It looked just fine.
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Old Nov 8, 2020 | 12:48 PM
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What Ronsc said. GM would not put a (PF 64) filter on these cars from the factory knowing they have to warranty the motor if it was that bad.

I typically use WIX, but did go with the PF 64 for my second oil change because it was a package deal (with the 0W-40 ESP M1 oil).

Same goes for the first oil change at 500 miles followed by normal intervals thereafter.


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Old Nov 8, 2020 | 01:31 PM
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Thank you both, I feel better and knew it was prob bad info
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Old Nov 8, 2020 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by slant6
I can live with " not as good " but I was told they can rip apart inside ?? I don't believe this but don't want to take any chances for $12
Don't worry, the PF64 is just fine for the LT1/LT4 engine, just like ronsc1985 and need-for-speed have stated.

The are a lot of other good oil filters too...but...make sure the other filters meet GM's specs, including the the 22 psi by-pass valve setting.

I currently have a Wix WL10290xp on my Z06 and I've just installed a AC Delco PF63E on my Camaro SS (same specs as a PF64, just a larger canister).
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Old Nov 8, 2020 | 06:19 PM
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The Wix is a very good filter but Napa has a Platinum oil filter cartridge which is probably the best oil filter of any. The quality of materials used internally is second to none.
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Originally Posted by MMD
The Wix is a very good filter but Napa has a Platinum oil filter cartridge which is probably the best oil filter of any. The quality of materials used internally is second to none.
Agree, NAPA has good filters as well.

I don't know if it is still the situation, but, at one time, NAPA and Wix were the same, just different labels.
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Originally Posted by KLG
Agree, NAPA has good filters as well.

I don't know if it is still the situation, but, at one time, NAPA and Wix were the same, just different labels.
Yeah, I've heard on several occasions that Wix produces the NAPA filters for them.
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Old Nov 8, 2020 | 08:20 PM
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Yeah, I've heard on several occasions that Wix produces the NAPA filters for them.
I recently viewed a thorough Youtube comparison comparing about 15 different oil filters from all different manufacturers. The difference between the NAPA Platinum and the Wix filter was significant. They said Wix was a good filter but looking at the quality of materials used internally the 2 filters seemed to be significantly different. K&N also had manufactured an outstanding oil filter that was tested as well. Those 2 were top rated in the comparison I viewed for vehicles using synthetic oil.
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Old Nov 8, 2020 | 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by MMD
I recently viewed a thorough Youtube comparison comparing about 15 different oil filters from all different manufacturers. The difference between the NAPA Platinum and the Wix filter was significant. They said Wix was a good filter but looking at the quality of materials used internally the 2 filters seemed to be significantly different. K&N also had manufactured an outstanding oil filter that was tested as well. Those 2 were top rated in the comparison I viewed for vehicles using synthetic oil.
What about the the 22 psi by-pass valve setting.??
Was that mentioned?

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Old Nov 9, 2020 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by db2xpert
What about the the 22 psi by-pass valve setting.??
Was that mentioned?
It was not mentioned. The comparison I mentioned was not a comparison of Corvette filters. It was just a comparison of generic oil filters for many different manufacturers.. I will definitely be looking at K&N and MAPA Platinum filters from now on. Good thing you mentioned that 22psi valve. It's critical. GM said so. They said you can damage your engine if you use something with less pressure. They cited the PF-48 as an example. The PF-48 and the PF-64 are not the same filter. The bypass vale on the PF-48 operates at 15 psi pressure.
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Old Nov 9, 2020 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by MMD
I recently viewed a thorough Youtube comparison comparing about 15 different oil filters from all different manufacturers. The difference between the NAPA Platinum and the Wix filter was significant. They said Wix was a good filter but looking at the quality of materials used internally the 2 filters seemed to be significantly different. K&N also had manufactured an outstanding oil filter that was tested as well. Those 2 were top rated in the comparison I viewed for vehicles using synthetic oil.
In the comparison, which was better between the NAPA and the Wix?

Originally Posted by db2xpert
What about the the 22 psi by-pass valve setting.??
Was that mentioned?
On the Wix website, they show the bypass to be 22 psi on their filter too.
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Old Nov 9, 2020 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by SonnyAK
In the comparison, which was better between the NAPA and the Wix?



On the Wix website, they show the bypass to be 22 psi on their filter too.
The Wix was good but the NAPA Platinum was off the charts good. I'll see if I can track down the video and post it here. In the meantime, watch this video to see just how good NAPA filters are. The quality of materials is about as good as you will find in a filter


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Old Nov 9, 2020 | 11:34 AM
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Thanks. I appreciate the info. I've mostly used NAPA filters through the years and have never had any issues at all, so it's good to hear again that they're still making a great product!
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The regular PF 64 is just fine. I've been using them for several years and my Z06 has been run through it many times. Never had any failures.
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i use the gold all the time.
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Old Nov 10, 2020 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by f1reb1rd
i use the gold all the time.
The NAPA Gold filter should be used for a blended synthetic oil. That's not what we use in our C7.
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Old Nov 10, 2020 | 07:38 AM
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What am I missing here?
If I look at my oil pressure reading it is typically in the 40 psi range.
Everybody is saying the filter bypass is 15 psi.
Doesn't that mean the filter will be bypassing 100% of the time?
Am I misunderstanding something about this?
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