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Old Jan 12, 2021 | 10:14 PM
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i bought a pre owned 2019 Z06 M7 3LZ with 3800 miles a few months back. It has carbon ceramic rotors and there was no window sticker so i was thinking it may be a Z07. I bought the window sticker through GM and found out it the car was built with the CC brakes on the Z06. I was curious why someone would pay for the CC brakes and not just get the Z07 package, I don't think there is much of a price difference. Also what is the difference between the Z06 and Z07 suspension? Thanks
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Many don’t want the stiffer ride of the Z07. Also the CC brakes were I believe a $7500 option. However they were giving them as an incentive at one time.
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2017 Z06/Z07 here.

I can tell you that the Z07 package is an $8K option. Aside from the CCB and the Z07 suspension it comes with Sport Cup 2 tires which will last maybe 6K miles. Replacing them with Pilot Super Sports - which is what I have will be easily $1.5K.

The RPO Code for the CCB brakes that come with the Z07 is J57 which costs $7.5K.

For an extra $500 you get Cup 2 Tires (not a fan of for street actually) and Z07 suspension. To me it's a no brainer to get the Z07 package since you are already 94% there in terms of the price

I know your car is a 2019 and it makes no sense to spend that much and not go all the way, unless something like this happened when the original owner purchased it...

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...ock-w-j57.html


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Old Jan 12, 2021 | 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by snappa50
Also what is the difference between the Z06 and Z07 suspension?
My understanding is the shocks are valved differently and the springs are stiffer. The anti-sway bars are the same.
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The controllers like magnetic ride, stability control, PTM, ABS, etc are also calibrated for higher traction tires and stiffer suspension.
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Originally Posted by Loki 6
2017 Z06/Z07 here.

I can tell you that the Z07 package is an $8K option. Aside from the CCB and the Z07 suspension it comes with Sport Cup 2 tires which will last maybe 6K miles. Replacing them with Pilot Super Sports - which is what I have will be easily $1.5K.

The RPO Code for the CCB brakes that come with the Z07 is J57 which costs $7.5K.

For an extra $500 you get Cup 2 Tires (not a fan of for street actually) and Z07 suspension. To me it's a no brainer to get the Z07 package since you are already 94% there in terms of the price

I know your car is a 2019 and it makes no sense to spend that much and not go all the way, unless something like this happened when the original owner purchased it...

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...ock-w-j57.html

I own a 2015 Z06/Z07, and I got 13K miles out of my Sport Cups with just street use. You also have to add the cost of the upgraded aero package you need with the Z07.

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Originally Posted by Jet Stream Blue Z06
I own a 2015 Z06/Z07, and I got 13K miles out of my Sport Cups with just street use. You also have to add the cost of the upgraded aero package you need with the Z07.

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Are you talking about the Stage 3 Aero that they "made you get" with the Z07 package - the one for $3K? I was always confused about that....

Originally I thought that you needed to order that package to get the Z07 package and it was an extra charge, but then I thought that might have changed over the years? I'm still not sure.

If so, then the total cost of the Z07 pack is $11K - $8k for the Z07 RPO code and an additional $3k for the Stage 3 aero? And is that"billed" as carbon fiber visible package? (I don't think so...?)

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Originally Posted by Elk
My understanding is the shocks are valved differently and the springs are stiffer. The anti-sway bars are the same.
Springs are the same. Otherwise correct.
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Originally Posted by Loki 6
Are you talking about the Stage 3 Aero that they "made you get" with the Z07 package - the one for $3K? I was always confused about that....

Originally I thought that you needed to order that package to get the Z07 package and it was an extra charge, but then I thought that might have changed over the years? I'm still not sure.

If so, then the total cost of the Z07 pack is $11K - $8k for the Z07 RPO code and an additional $3k for the Stage 3 aero? And is that"billed" as carbon fiber visible package? (I don't think so...?)

Yes, that is correct. I believe it was $3k for carbon flash and $4k for visible carbon fiber.
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Originally Posted by Zjoe6
Springs are the same. Otherwise correct.
Z06 and Z07 springs are different in both front and rear.
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Originally Posted by Jet Stream Blue Z06
Yes, that is correct. I believe it was $3k for carbon flash and $4k for visible carbon fiber.
Ok so then on my vehicle, the total cost of the Z07 pack was $12K in options....wow!

I'm glad I purchased used!
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Originally Posted by X25
Z06 and Z07 springs are different in both front and rear.
I wonder if this contributes at all to the bent rim issue. Has anyone tried to look for a correlation between z07 and bent rims, i.e., is it more prevalent percentage wise with the z07?
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Originally Posted by X25
Z06 and Z07 springs are different in both front and rear.
Ok, what I thought I understood, I learned from your post in the Autocrossing and Road racing forum. You made a comment about the Z06/Z07 stiffer springs. I read that to mean Z06 and Z06 with Z07. My bad.

Grand Sport: Springs 1, 30mm sway
Grand Sport/Z07: Springs 1, 32mm sway
Z06 Springs 2, 30mm sway
Z06/Z07, Springs 3, 30mm sway

Is this correct?

One of these days I'll get it.


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Originally Posted by Zjoe6
Ok, what I thought I understood, I learned from your post in the Autocrossing and Road racing forum. You made a comment about the Z06/Z07 stiffer springs. I read that to mean Z06 and Z06 with Z07. My bad.

Grand Sport: Springs 1, 30mm sway
Grand Sport/Z07: Springs 1, 32mm sway
Z06 Springs 2, 30mm sway
Z06/Z07, Springs 3, 30mm sway

Is this correct?

One of these days I'll get it.


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Grand Sport: Springs 1, 30mm sway
Grand Sport/Z07: Front Spring 1, Rear Spring 2(?) 32mm sway
Z06 Springs 1, 30mm sway
Z06/Z07, Springs 2, 30mm sway

If
I recall, GS/Z07 still used the stiffer rear spring. Please correct me if I'm wrong.


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I always find it harder than it should be to keep track of these details.
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Run a build sheet on it. That will tell you.
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There was a few month period of time when the J57 package had a very large discount/rebate from gm (maybe free even?). That could be why the original owner bought a carbon ceramic brake but non z07 car. If I remember correctly, I think it had something to do with a shortage of the iron brake kits? It was a few years ago so my memory is fuzzy.
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Yes, but it was for 2017 models if I recall, not 2019. The dealers had to order J57 in order to get their orders moving, and later GM brought the $5K incentive when every car in dealers had CCBs with not everyone interested in them. The original owner likely wanted CCBs just for street use, since they last forever with street use, do not create dust, and aesthetically better fill the wheel and look good, too. In a way of thinking, CCBs are perfect for the street : p

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Originally Posted by X25
Yes, but it was for 2017 models if I recall, not 2019. The dealers had to order J57 in order to get their orders moving, and later GM brought the $5K incentive when every car in dealers had CCBs with not everyone interested in them. The original owner likely wanted CCBs just for street use, since they last forever with street use, do not create dust, and aesthetically better fill the wheel and look good, too. In a way of thinking, CCBs are perfect for the street : p
Originally Posted by jc123
There was a few month period of time when the J57 package had a very large discount/rebate from gm (maybe free even?). That could be why the original owner bought a carbon ceramic brake but non z07 car. If I remember correctly, I think it had something to do with a shortage of the iron brake kits? It was a few years ago so my memory is fuzzy.
exactly, see hyperlink I inserted in post 3

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