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Old Aug 30, 2021 | 09:37 PM
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did mine myself,clean install,followed the hatech vid.mine came with a seal for airbox to fender.was not needed fit was just as good as stock.i routed all hoses under air tube for clean look.been on 4 years now.no problems.
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did mine myself,clean install,followed the hatech vid.mine came with a seal for airbox to fender.was not needed fit was just as good as stock.

No radiator hose touching at the bottom of the intake?
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Originally Posted by bmarcinczyk14
With all the fitment complaints on this intake I'm not sure it wasn't done right. Can you say for a fact it wasn't?
Yes I can. I’ve had one on my 2016Z for 5 years. With some effort, these can made to fit fine. I also rerouted the hoses so there is no contact between the hoses and the intake pipe.

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Yes I can. I’ve had one on my 2016Z for 5 years. With some effort, these can made to fit fine. I also rerouted the hoses so there is no contact between the hoses and the intake pipe.
Well I don't know what to say my installer claimed to watch the directions and still couldn't get the hose to completely clear after twisting. Maybe there's some deviation in the intake sizes they're not all made the exact same, some fit better than others? I know I had a total of 3 tubes, two replacements shipped because of defects found with the original and then again with the replacement they shipped to me. Finally the third tube was good enough to use I guess but maybe was not test fitted before shipping.
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Well I don't know what to say my installer claimed to watch the directions and still couldn't get the hose to completely clear after twisting. Maybe there's some deviation in the intake sizes they're not all made the exact same, some fit better than others? I know I had a total of 3 tubes, two replacements shipped because of defects found with the original and then again with the replacement they shipped to me. Finally the third tube was good enough to use I guess but maybe was not test fitted before shipping.
After seeing how your installer laid the coolant hoses on the intake tube, maybe you need to look for another installer. Not trying to be smart, but maybe a change is needed.

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Originally Posted by bmarcinczyk14
No radiator hose touching at the bottom of the intake?
no. in the instruction vid you have to loosen the top hose clamp and rotate the hose down alittle so it clears the intake.when i put mine on 4 years ago that was in the instructions that i do not see now.i guess this works also.

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Originally Posted by 383vett
After seeing how your installer laid the coolant hoses on the intake tube, maybe you need to look for another installer. Not trying to be smart, but maybe a change is needed.
i ran my coolant line under the box for cleaner look and not touching air tube
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Originally Posted by lordofwar
no. in the instruction vid you have to loosen the top hose clamp and rotate the hose down alittle so it clears the intake.when i put mine on 4 years ago that was in the instructions that i do not see now.i guess this works also.
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Literally sent them that exact video and he still claimed it's impossible to get it to not touch.
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Originally Posted by bmarcinczyk14
Not completely following what you're saying. Is what you're saying basically it's unlikely the intake will suck hot air coming through that gap because of the way the airs moving while you drive? In other words that gap isn't a big deal?
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Originally Posted by 383vett
After seeing how your installer laid the coolant hoses on the intake tube, maybe you need to look for another installer. Not trying to be smart, but maybe a change is needed.
Well they're local, convenient, and also one of the top known Corvette/GM tuners in the nation. So there's that.

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Originally Posted by SladeX
The weather strip idea is just a personal preference as I hate seeing mismatching pieces.

The sum of it though is that the airflow through the engine bay will not feed the airbox with hot air since that is forward of the engine and the internal airflow inside the bay vents out the back and to the side of the engine bay. If the car was sitting still ie going to launch for a 1/4 mile, then there will be some hot air feed while sitting still, but the majority of the air is still coming from the cool fender area.

The gap is not a big deal.
We originally included a weatherstrip for the small gap there, but a survey of our customers showed that only 10% used it, the rest ended up in the trashbin. We discontinued the strip, for that reason alone.

As the heat increased the size of the airbox, that gap becomes smaller, and does not degrade the IATs.

Here is a log capture, after 30 minutes of aggressive driving. Please note that this was with our TRIC ram air system, and the total boost was 12.1PSI with just the Stinger RAZ system. Check out the IAT



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Originally Posted by Halltech
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How big of a deal is it for that big hose touching the bottom of the airbox? They taped the box with dynamat and put heat insulation tape on the hose so hopefully that does a lot to minimize heat transfer. Even after watching the videos of twisting the hose they claim to still not be able to get enough clearance. Can you see this substantially increasing IAT's or increasing them at all?

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Originally Posted by bmarcinczyk14
How big of a deal is it for that big hose touching the bottom of the airbox? They taped the box with dynamat and put heat insulation tape on the hose so hopefully that does a lot to minimize heat transfer. Even after watching the videos of twisting the hose they claim to still not be able to get enough clearance. Can you see this substantially increasing IAT's or increasing them at all?
The above was done with just twisting the hoses, and taping them. 1/2" clearance.
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Originally Posted by Halltech
The above was done with just twisting the hoses, and taping them. 1/2" clearance.
Once again, they said they tried twisting it, still couldn't get the clearance so I have what I have. The question is is this a big deal, will it substantially increase IAT's or even increase them at all?
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Originally Posted by bmarcinczyk14
Once again, they said they tried twisting it, still couldn't get the clearance so I have what I have. The question is is this a big deal, will it substantially increase IAT's or even increase them at all?
If you have the heat tape on the hoses, there will be no heat transfer.

All the major tuners like Vengeance Racing, Katech, Callaway, and around 150 other dealers have purchased our Stinger since 2014, and have not brought this up as an issue. We drove our Corvette for 2 years and this is an easy process when you loosen the hose clamps. They turn very easily, but you want to keep from crimping them in the process.

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I look through at the front by the radiator and what do you know, more fitment issues. Looks like a metal clamp on the hose is pressing into the airbox. Let me guess something else the shop didn't do right?

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You can rotate that clamp away to prevent any rubbing. Still though, the shop is doing a **** poor job for the install.
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You can rotate that clamp away to prevent any rubbing. Still though, the shop is doing a **** poor job for the install.
Hope to god they did a better job with the lower pulley and tune. The thing is I had to take time off work to take it back and fix the install, even sent them video instructions of the install and another video specifically saying how to maneuver the hoses to get them to clear and that's the best they said they could do. The installer said they all make contact with the hoses that's just how they fit. I guess there's such a thing as having too much business and too many deadlines in order to properly focus on individual customers cars to get the job done right.

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Originally Posted by bmarcinczyk14
Hope to god they did a better job with the lower pulley and tune. The thing is I had to take time off work to take it back and fix the install, even sent them video instructions of the install and another video specifically saying how to maneuver the hoses to get them to clear and that's the best they said they could do. The installer said they all make contact with the hoses that's just how they fit. I guess there's such a thing as having too much business and too many deadlines in order to properly focus on individual customers cars to get the job done right.
not to belittle you or your installer,but the pic you sent with the clamp hitting,is it not common sence for installer just to rotate it out of the way and finish the job?and then tell you the problem and how they fixed it?thats what i would do and any wrench with common sense.as you are finding out when you buy aftermarket parts they almost always need tweaking.that is the nature of the beast.thats why i do all my own work when it is bolt on stuff.youtube and common sense saves you a lot of headaches and money.

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not to belittle you or your installer,but the pic you sent with the clamp hitting,is it not common sence for installer just to rotate it out of the way and finish the job?and then tell you the problem and how they fixed it?thats what i would do and any wrench with common sense.as you are finding out when you buy aftermarket parts they almost always need tweaking.that is the nature of the beast.thats why i do all my own work when it is bolt on stuff.youtube and common sense saves you a lot of headaches and money.
That's not something they were aware of I'm sure, I just saw that myself yesterday and snapped a picture of it.
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