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#41
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If you read the article you will see that though it is faster than the Z06 on the track they do not consider it a track only focused car. It can be optioned without the big aero and still maintains the magna-ride suspension. It specifically says that the springs, dampers, and limited slip are tuned to be forgiving unlike the ZL1-1LE. This car is still not going to be a no holds barred track car.
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Yea definitely wouldn't be tracking the car anyways just draging the car in a straight line so the way i see this upgrade is just like what they did with the ZL1 1LE just track focused but a standard ZL1 A10 beats that car in a line.
#43
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Looks great and I want one, but unfortunately it is out of my price range so I'll have to live with my current car.
#44
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If you read the article you will see that though it is faster than the Z06 on the track they do not consider it a track only focused car. It can be optioned without the big aero and still maintains the magna-ride suspension. It specifically says that the springs, dampers, and limited slip are tuned to be forgiving unlike the ZL1-1LE. This car is still not going to be a no holds barred track car.
No holds barred or not! I agree there will still but some loaded with golf clubs heading to the country club.
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It is faster than my Z06 and a lot more $$$ and should be a much better track car but I like the look of the Z06 better and I am happy with my 2017 Z06 VERT. I am not a hater the ZR1 should be a better performing version of the Z06 as was the 2007 C6 ZR1 a better performance version of the 2008 C6 Z06. Cant be the top dog forever as their will always be a better one! Good for GM for giving Corvette buyers several performance variations of the C7 Corvette!
Why all the hate for the C7 Z06 and Grand Sport SPATS I like mine??
Why all the hate for the C7 Z06 and Grand Sport SPATS I like mine??
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#48
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From what I am reading so far, this sounds like GM's 'Demon'.
Nose heavy at + 140lbs. Bigger blower, Softer Dampers, Springs, Diff. It sounds like a very powerful GT car and not the track weapon the Z06 supposedly is.
If GM releases an insane Nurburgring laptime, I will attribute that to the softer dampers, springs and more downforce.
Nose heavy at + 140lbs. Bigger blower, Softer Dampers, Springs, Diff. It sounds like a very powerful GT car and not the track weapon the Z06 supposedly is.
If GM releases an insane Nurburgring laptime, I will attribute that to the softer dampers, springs and more downforce.
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#51
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So it's 2.5s faster than the Z06 and Mero turned a 1:55.95 in the Z06. So that's a 1:53.5 on VIR Full? Holy cow that's fast.
I wonder if they substantially improved the brake cooling. If I get one I'll be bringing over my AP Racing brakes, DSC controller, and RTx shocks.
I wonder if they substantially improved the brake cooling. If I get one I'll be bringing over my AP Racing brakes, DSC controller, and RTx shocks.
#52
Melting Slicks
140lbs more on the front axle? No thanks.
Overall this car is pretty underwhelming. The power and torque numbers are a modest improvement easily gained with light mods on a Z06. I’m only interested in the aero and cooling but neither of those will justify the price. Also no iron brake option is a downer for anyone really interested in tracking the car. I was thinking they’d option spool valve shocks but still only left the mag rides.
Overall somehwat blah.
Overall this car is pretty underwhelming. The power and torque numbers are a modest improvement easily gained with light mods on a Z06. I’m only interested in the aero and cooling but neither of those will justify the price. Also no iron brake option is a downer for anyone really interested in tracking the car. I was thinking they’d option spool valve shocks but still only left the mag rides.
Overall somehwat blah.
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Bottom part of the middle blacked out looks much nicer to me
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I'll add that I'd like it to be a real semi-functional front bumper, made of similar bendy material as stock, rather than a fiberglass or carbon fiber knockoff, since I mostly use my Z06 as a daily driver.
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#55
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140lbs more on the front axle? No thanks.
Overall this car is pretty underwhelming. The power and torque numbers are a modest improvement easily gained with light mods on a Z06. I’m only interested in the aero and cooling but neither of those will justify the price. Also no iron brake option is a downer for anyone really interested in tracking the car. I was thinking they’d option spool valve shocks but still only left the mag rides.
Overall somehwat blah.
Overall this car is pretty underwhelming. The power and torque numbers are a modest improvement easily gained with light mods on a Z06. I’m only interested in the aero and cooling but neither of those will justify the price. Also no iron brake option is a downer for anyone really interested in tracking the car. I was thinking they’d option spool valve shocks but still only left the mag rides.
Overall somehwat blah.
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I agree. Why not just update the z06 and have a refresh with more power like most manufactures do with their cars over time? Why introduce a whole new car which is literally 90% a z06? People still think their will be a ME with the price of this thing? 100 more hp but same everything and 140 pounds heavier.
There are quite a few tuners who can exceed that horsepower level without adding any weight, by switching to a centrifugal blower. But GM seems to be married to Eaton.
Maybe there's a good reason for that? Eaton has made huge investments in furnishing blowers to car manufacturers, including Mercedes, and jumped though the hoops which it takes to do that. We hot rodders are a minuscule drop in the bucket, compared to that market.
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First I heard of the 1 year thing on the ZR1. I thought the C7 will continue along side the ME for a while. This would bode well for Z06 prices.
I like what you heard! Hard to figure that one honestly! Have see what happens for sure.
Still not that many of them in the big picture. Only 6800 sold 2017's will be sold in the US! Even less 2018's but looks to be 2019's as the highest numbers made.
I like what you heard! Hard to figure that one honestly! Have see what happens for sure.
Still not that many of them in the big picture. Only 6800 sold 2017's will be sold in the US! Even less 2018's but looks to be 2019's as the highest numbers made.
First I heard of it too. elegant reported it. According to him it's from legit inside information.
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Most likely will be a more flexible hybrid of fiberglass and plastic to keep the price reasonable
#59
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So it's 2.5s faster than the Z06 and Mero turned a 1:55.95 in the Z06. So that's a 1:53.5 on VIR Full? Holy cow that's fast.
I wonder if they substantially improved the brake cooling. If I get one I'll be bringing over my AP Racing brakes, DSC controller, and RTx shocks.
I wonder if they substantially improved the brake cooling. If I get one I'll be bringing over my AP Racing brakes, DSC controller, and RTx shocks.
Given the difference I would imagine VIR Full and the Grand West course are different. Link to his lap or details of the 1:53.5 please. Thanks in advance.
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Meh. I was really expecting something special/more. Not impressed.
- Disappointed and not sure why it's only 680 ft-lbs of torque.
- Only 100 HP more AND 140 extra pounds.
- LOUSY it comes with CCBs as they suck for road course work. Wish they would offer iron rotors as a no cost option.
- Sucks they didn't put the Camaro's A10 in it.
- Mind boggling that it has magnetic instead of the trick spoon-valve shocks
- Those are some butt ugly wheels. Didn't they come on an 80's era Ferrari?
- I wonder if those fugly wheels are forged.
Sure looks like the marketing guys are the ones who "spec'd/designed" the thing for the gold chain wearing, cruise-in/car show crowd. My initial reaction is all hat, no cattle. The ZL1 1LE is a "better" track car. Maybe not faster, but better.
Too bad they half assed it.
Rick
P.S. Be interesting to see how many will be lining up to buy as you can't believe a word that Tadge says. Will have to wait on some guinea pigs to buy and run it to see if it's capable of being driven at 9/10 by a fast driver on a warm day without heat issues. I'm skeptical....
- Disappointed and not sure why it's only 680 ft-lbs of torque.
- Only 100 HP more AND 140 extra pounds.
- LOUSY it comes with CCBs as they suck for road course work. Wish they would offer iron rotors as a no cost option.
- Sucks they didn't put the Camaro's A10 in it.
- Mind boggling that it has magnetic instead of the trick spoon-valve shocks
- Those are some butt ugly wheels. Didn't they come on an 80's era Ferrari?
- I wonder if those fugly wheels are forged.
Sure looks like the marketing guys are the ones who "spec'd/designed" the thing for the gold chain wearing, cruise-in/car show crowd. My initial reaction is all hat, no cattle. The ZL1 1LE is a "better" track car. Maybe not faster, but better.
Too bad they half assed it.
Rick
P.S. Be interesting to see how many will be lining up to buy as you can't believe a word that Tadge says. Will have to wait on some guinea pigs to buy and run it to see if it's capable of being driven at 9/10 by a fast driver on a warm day without heat issues. I'm skeptical....
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