Will 2019 ZR1 beat the 2019 NA GT3 RS at the 'Ring?
06-07-2018, 07:42 AM
#161
Le Mans Master
Yes and No!? PTV could have a vague floating line, as written! ;)
Read about it! Some TC at corner exit perhaps Not described. You know part of those Turned Off electronics that Pobst is going to exaggerate.
That aside the car is magical and gorgeous to watch!
A RWD turbo 911 too! Wow!
That aside the car is magical and gorgeous to watch!
A RWD turbo 911 too! Wow!
Last edited by johnglenntwo; 06-07-2018 at 08:02 AM.
06-07-2018, 11:06 AM
#162
I watched shmee’s gt2rs review and one major issue with gt2rs that to me is a non starter is the SOUND. It sounds incredibly boring and not raw compared to gt3 or zr1. I just couldnt be happy with this car even if it sold for same price as zr1 and could get one.
06-07-2018, 11:30 AM
#163
Le Mans Master
Turbos! ;)
I watched shmee’s gt2rs review and one major issue with gt2rs that to me is a non starter is the SOUND. It sounds incredibly boring and not raw compared to gt3 or zr1. I just couldnt be happy with this car even if it sold for same price as zr1 and could get one.
Last edited by johnglenntwo; 06-07-2018 at 11:31 AM.
06-07-2018, 12:48 PM
#164
At the Nordschleife it's really not that much, in fact over the 154 turns it averages to only about 7 hundredths of a second slower per turn! To give you an idea that's about the difference between the LMGTE-Pro and LMGTE-Am drivers at the 24 Hours of Le Mans last year (Silver drivers were a little faster).
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06-07-2018, 12:49 PM
#165
Team Owner
Not if they come out of the pits at a slow speed and hit a bump on the track.
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06-07-2018, 03:25 PM
#167
Le Mans Master
That's the Old 911! ;)
(Can't argue with success!)
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06-22-2018, 01:28 PM
#171
Team Owner
Your 'humor' made a hard left turn and ran straight into the wall. I have never driven a Mustang much less owned one. In 1964 I was at the Ford dealership in Wichita, Kansas for the very first viewing of the 1964 1/2 Mustang that occurred. simultaneously at every other Ford dealerships all over the USA . In fact, the very next week, I went to the Chevrolet dealer and purchased my very first new car; a 1964 Malibu SS hardtop with the 327, 4 speed, posi, and the F40 suspension. I would have purchased a new Corvette, but being in the Air Force, I didn't have that kind of money.
Then I purchased a new 396, 4-speed Impala, then a new 1966 Oldsmobile 4-4-2, etc.
Been driving Corvettes for decades(currently own three of them), and I have never made a hard left turn and drove head on into a wall in a single one of them. In fact, I have never wrecked a single one of the Corvettes I have owned, nor have I ever received a speeding ticket in any Corvette that I have owned.
Then I purchased a new 396, 4-speed Impala, then a new 1966 Oldsmobile 4-4-2, etc.
Been driving Corvettes for decades(currently own three of them), and I have never made a hard left turn and drove head on into a wall in a single one of them. In fact, I have never wrecked a single one of the Corvettes I have owned, nor have I ever received a speeding ticket in any Corvette that I have owned.
Last edited by JoesC5; 06-22-2018 at 01:30 PM.
06-22-2018, 01:57 PM
#172
Your 'humor' made a hard left turn and ran straight into the wall. I have never driven a Mustang much less owned one. In 1964 I was at the Ford dealership in Wichita, Kansas for the very first viewing of the 1964 1/2 Mustang that occurred. simultaneously at every other Ford dealerships all over the USA . In fact, the very next week, I went to the Chevrolet dealer and purchased my very first new car; a 1964 Malibu SS hardtop with the 327, 4 speed, posi, and the F40 suspension. I would have purchased a new Corvette, but being in the Air Force, I didn't have that kind of money.
Then I purchased a new 396, 4-speed Impala, then a new 1966 Oldsmobile 4-4-2, etc.
Been driving Corvettes for decades(currently own three of them), and I have never made a hard left turn and drove head on into a wall in a single one of them. In fact, I have never wrecked a single one of the Corvettes I have owned, nor have I ever received a speeding ticket in any Corvette that I have owned.
Then I purchased a new 396, 4-speed Impala, then a new 1966 Oldsmobile 4-4-2, etc.
Been driving Corvettes for decades(currently own three of them), and I have never made a hard left turn and drove head on into a wall in a single one of them. In fact, I have never wrecked a single one of the Corvettes I have owned, nor have I ever received a speeding ticket in any Corvette that I have owned.
06-22-2018, 04:46 PM
#173
Burning Brakes
I can’t take any of these ring times serious anymore. No way do I believe a car with nearly half the power can beat the million dollar 918. Nissan and Ferrari have both been caught using ringers and I wouldn’t be surprised if Porsche is doing the same. You can’t tell me Porsche has advanced their technology so far that a 500hp car is doing numbers like an over 800hp hyper car made by the same company that’s only a couple years old. Just don’t believe it.
Last edited by Mr Triple Black; 06-22-2018 at 04:47 PM.
06-22-2018, 04:59 PM
#174
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I can’t take any of these ring times serious anymore. No way do I believe a car with nearly half the power can beat the million dollar 918. Nissan and Ferrari have both been caught using ringers and I wouldn’t be surprised if Porsche is doing the same. You can’t tell me Porsche has advanced their technology so far that a 500hp car is doing numbers like an over 800hp hyper car made by the same company that’s only a couple years old. Just don’t believe it.
Last edited by Nyvetteguy007; 06-22-2018 at 04:59 PM.
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06-22-2018, 05:58 PM
#175
Racer
Lets not forget..people are being arrested even as late as this past week who work for the parent company of Porsche...VW for cheating consumers and governments across the globe regarding their Diesel engines emissions performance...out and out lies and rigging soooo....
The general unavailability of these cars at MSRP, combined with "dieselgate" and continuing evidence of a prevailing company culture that suggests nothing will come between Porsche and the Golden Egg is all a bit slimy. There's really no nobility in overpaying for a high-performance car. Events over of the the last couple of years certainly have diminished my enthusiasm for chasing the pixie dust required to obtain a Porsche GT car. I talk to others with much the same view. The Emperor has lost some clothing...
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06-22-2018, 06:20 PM
#176
Burning Brakes
The general unavailability of these cars at MSRP, combined with "dieselgate" and continuing evidence of a prevailing company culture that suggests nothing will come between Porsche and the Golden Egg is all a bit slimy. There's really no nobility in overpaying for a high-performance car. Events over of the the last couple of years certainly have diminished my enthusiasm for chasing the pixie dust required to obtain a Porsche GT car. I talk to others with much the same view. The Emperor has lost some clothing...
06-22-2018, 06:38 PM
#177
Racer
This is the exact reason my friend picked up a used F12 over a GT3RS. Didn’t feel like paying some ridiculous over MSRP for the car. I personally can’t afford cars in the 200s and up, but even if I could, Porsche wouldn’t make that list unless I was going straight to the top at the CGT or 918. Otherwise I’d just wait for a few years and get a regular Turbo for under 100.
06-22-2018, 06:44 PM
#178
Burning Brakes
There were other cars I looked at too like the Alfa 4C, but 60k for a 4 cylinder? Hard pass. I already own a BMW and it’s always in the shop, literally in the shop right now. So didn’t want an “M” product. Basically as I got down the list and started checking things off I just had to have the Vette. Took me a few months to find the “right” one and went and bought it the same day I saw it on Car Gurus. You just can’t beat the bang for the buck or the low (relatively) cost of maintence for a car that does sub 12s in the quarter and tons of fun to drive while still able to be a daily if you wish.
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06-22-2018, 09:12 PM
#179
Le Mans Master
Heck with the times! ;)
I watch an aerial view of a 911 eating curves and I looked it up. The RWD RE 911.
Heck, with the time - It Worked in front of God and Everyone!
Last edited by johnglenntwo; 06-22-2018 at 09:14 PM.