Warp Ten

Your missing the Grand Sport, when will that be announced?

C7Me

There is no longer a GS. The E-Ray is supposed to replace it. We’ll see!

vettesweetnos

Here is the Eray

C7Me

Look at the ground clearance, that’s not a sports car/ERay, it’s an SUV.

yz250fPilot

That makes sense.

blackvetterzo6

keep that electric piece of **** on the back burner.

vettesweetnos

I know that photo is an suv and I am not sure what an "Eray" is, kind of a dumb name? Haven't seen any official word on any Eray, and the last spy photos are from quite awhile back and could have been anything. Maybe they will come out with a Grand Sport yet.

C7Me

Maybe, but they did patent the E-Ray name so…

vettesweetnos

For a trademark in 2015, but it could be a stingray replacement so the supposed C9 Stingray could instead be called the E-ray. The names are similar. Or the Eray is a separate model all together, but Z06 as a sub-model does have a patent for the name, and it was recently registered in Australia as well. I do think they will utilize that tunnel for a battery setup and front electric motors, but will it be for an E-ray model, a GS, ZR1, or upper model?

The name E-ray to me suggests all EV and not a hybrid but who knows. I don't want one of those, a hybrid maybe.

They also patented active aero and all kinds of things that haven't seen a debut yet. Maybe the ZR1 will get that?

Zaro Tundov

2024, and it’s going to rock.

lostsoul

Many putting down a big deposit... waiting for 2 years.. spending 1000s of hours a year looking for specs of info on the car and and you insult the very name?

JerryU

Yep, expected E-Ray would be announced late summer and available sometime in 2024. BUT the current administration reversed the delay in EPA plan made with a Pen in January 2017 with another Pen in December 2021 with few details. Then April 1st, 2022 they dropped another detail! The December pen said ~40 mpg required was increased to 49 mpg in 2026.

The early EPA goal that was to become law starting in 2017, required the Corvette Family (Ferrari, Porsche etc) to achieve 39.3 mpg in 2025! The average car as defined in a press release back in 2013 was to achieve 54.5 mpg in 2025! GM (and all other manufacturers) knew of the planned mpg requirement by "car family" with the 1174 page government report available in 2012!

Once the use of a FWD hybrid was mentioned by Andy Pilgrim (former Corvette Racer) in February 2019 and the leaked details of the E-Ray published article (was on the Forum) in December 2019 made it clear GM would have to be introducing a hybrid Vette. I thought the first, as outlined with leaked details would be a performance FWD hybrid (as Ferrari introduced several years ago) more F1 like with a small light weight battery and ICE always running. That would be followed with a larger battery hybrid Corvette (plenty of room in the center tunnel) and Prius type "Start the ICE only after the electric motors brought it to 30 to 40 mph" (where in normal driving most energy is used.)

I produced a PDF with details showing how a full hybrid Vette could achieve ~39 EPA mpg. (Note even the EPA concedes that's 8 to 10 mpg higher than real world BUT even 29 mpg for the average Vette is much higher than is presently being achieved.)

I have updated the doc as time went on with statements like the Ferrari CEO saying (just before the pandemic) that they planned on 60% Ferrari hybrid production in 2022. Also Porsche saying their plan of 50% EV Sports cars in 2025 (one way to get to the average mpg up!)

This update is the latest with the administration April 2022 announcement that the average car will get 49 mpg in 2026! It's pics with long captions so an easy to read doc. The pic for the latest has the head of EPA laughing (behind a mask) as he's probably happy as hell gasoline prices are increasing so unlike what was eluded to in the 2012 report, a way to push ICE's out was to raise gasoline tax! http://netwelding.com/C8_FWD_Hybrid.pdf

lostsoul

Well the whole Gas vs EV was planned and setup by many with stocks and funneling tax money making allot of rich insiders, so what if it hurts the entire world. They chose the tech and used our money to make it happen.lol

I didnt know they increased the EPA range again, but for us waiting for the E-ray that is good and will force GM to use bigger, better batterie that hopefully dont take out my house. This is one of those things I bite my tongue and look away. There is progress on new solar panels , read one company now has panels working at 24% instead of the normal 12. Then you got the solid state batteries. So the tech looks promising if we dont blow ourselves up before hand.. No doubt they have mules running around and thanks to all that keep and eye open. I cant wait to see more.

Warp Ten

The hybrid Corvette will be the ZR1??????

Avanti

At least you started you query correctly... "any rumors..." That's all you're going to get.

JerryU

Yes but expensive. The original plan said close to 1000 hp so whatever for the ICE (could be the 670 hp LT6) and say two ~125 hp electric motors. Not 1000 but close enough considering Marry Barra has said ALL GM's will be electric in 2035!

So we may see the E-Ray as planned with a relatively small battery (the leaked info said 1.94 kWh pretty small and light.) But unless the ICE is shut off until ~30 to 40 mph not a lot of mpg to gain with just a larger battery.

Expect the E-Ray Plus (my name) is already designed and like Ferrari will be released with the ICE shutting off when stopped ONLY when they can blame being FORCED by a government requirement. Most sports car folks don't want it. It may have a bit larger than two ~50 hp electric motors BUT not necessarily. It will have a large Prius capacity battery and probably be a plug in as well. Plug in is silly for a small battery with F1 type use.

Followed by the Zora that because of it's limited volume (due to price) can be blended with high mpg Vettes so doesn't have to be one.

Then Mary Barra's EV Vette. Several years ago she announced they were moving a lot of Corvette engineers (I recall half) to work on EV's (NOT Corvette EV but EVs in general.) The C9 EV is no doubt one and my "marketing guess" will be used to convince the average public that EV's are great! She's bet the company on that and billions on a factory making batteries!

Aviator

I've been buying Corvette's since 1997 and the Build site has always followed actual sales and production by three to four months. Never figured out why, and it is what it is. When they are selling out all production for the next year or two, who cares?

AzDave47

It reflects poorly on Chevy/GM - they should care even if the Corvettes sell out.

CDNZR

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Originally Posted by JerryU;1605015200.

Then Mary Barra's EV Vette. Several years ago she announced they were moving a lot of Corvette engineers (I recall half) to work on EV's (NOT Corvette EV but EVs in general.) [b

The C9 EV is no doubt one and my "marketing guess" will be used to convince the average public that EV's are great! She's bet the company on that and billions on a factory making batteries!

I predict this is how the senerio will be play out in the future. The M5 represent the best ICE in the C8 line up and the Lucid is the C9 EV and the Plaid will be the C9 Z06? With time and new technology weight and range will improved. I am ready to experience the thrills of a 9s sport car albeit even without any sounds. That's a trade off I will take.
If Corvette will make an all EV C8 that runs low 10's and have a decent range, I will buy it. With better handling and braking then the Tesla all in a Corvette shell.

JerryU

^^^
Yep you and some others. But IMO that will be the end of the Everman's Affordable Sports Car. So beit, perhaps if Marry doesn't follow her laid out all EV cars in 2035 it would be the end of GM. She may keep the company but like the Corvette it will be a much smaller GM and far fewer Corvettes.