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Old 08-15-2022, 06:11 PM
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Default GM testing Ferrari SF-90

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https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a40895950/ferrari-sf90-stradale-tested-by-gm/
Old 08-15-2022, 06:44 PM
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To me it’d make more sense that they’re using it for the ZR1/Zora.
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Originally Posted by PRE-Z06
To me it’d make more sense that they’re using it for the ZR1/Zora.
Why would you say that when the C8 ERAY can do it see below.
Some of us in this forum having saying this is the car GM needs to use for the ERAY, not the NSX or the 2012 or 2019 article Jerryu keeps posting on the forum. The Z06 will always have a following so GM needs to ignore the rumble here by some that can not stand the ERAY could have a lot more HP than the Z06. Now that said I do not believe the C8 architecture can accommodate an electric motor between the trans and ICE engine. If the Corvette engineers can some how add an electric motor between the trans and motor, then the ERAY could have easily well over 800 hp. Here are 3 scenarios just 2 62kW front motors (495+162=657), then add either the 180kW = 242 then 899hp, or add the 255kW at 333 you get 990hp.
No need for turbos to add to an already complex design.
Same goes for the ZR1 or ZORA just use the Z06 engine and add the above electric motors and you are well above 1000 hp.

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With the "electrified" Corvette being released next year - per Mark Reuss, it's more likely that they are using the Ferrari for a variant down the line. The ERay (if that's the next variant) is probably pretty much baked at this point.
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Originally Posted by St!ngray
Why would you say that when the C8 ERAY can do it see below.
Some of us in this forum having saying this is the car GM needs to use for the ERAY, not the NSX or the 2012 or 2019 article Jerryu keeps posting on the forum. The Z06 will always have a following so GM needs to ignore the rumble here by some that can not stand the ERAY could have a lot more HP than the Z06. Now that said I do not believe the C8 architecture can accommodate an electric motor between the trans and ICE engine. If the Corvette engineers can some how add an electric motor between the trans and motor, then the ERAY could have easily well over 800 hp. Here are 3 scenarios just 2 62kW front motors (495+162=657), then add either the 180kW = 242 then 899hp, or add the 255kW at 333 you get 990hp.
No need for turbos to add to an already complex design.
Same goes for the ZR1 or ZORA just use the Z06 engine and add the above electric motors and you are well above 1000 hp.
I don’t see them adding a rear motor, but who knows. The Ferrari has twin turbos and I figured the ZR1/Zora will too, but they very well could just add the front electric motors to the Z06 instead for cost savings.
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Originally Posted by PRE-Z06
I don’t see them adding a rear motor, but who knows. The Ferrari has twin turbos and I figured the ZR1/Zora will too, but they very well could just add the front electric motors to the Z06 instead for cost savings.
It would save GM a ton of money to not have to certify a twin turbo Z06 motor. And they could get the same extra hp by adding twin electric motors up front And it would be a lot quicker. Sounds like a no brainer to me for the ZR1. Now if they want to then take that and add twin turbos for the Zora.........................
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I'm betting that's a Zora comparison; imo

ZR1 => Twin Turbo LT6
Zora => TT LT6 + front electrification
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Originally Posted by RedLS6
I'm betting that's a Zora comparison; imo

ZR1 => Twin Turbo LT7
Zora => TT LT7 + front electrification
Fixed it
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Originally Posted by St!ngray
Why would you say that when the C8 ERAY can do it see below.
Because most of the development work on the E-Ray is done. GM isn't going to go back and make significant changes to the design at this point. Any benchmarking on the E-Ray was started, and largely completed, years ago. If they're starting a new benchmark process on the E-Ray now, we won't see that car until 2025 - 2026.

And because the performance of the Ferrari is in Zora territory, not E-Ray territory.
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Originally Posted by DSOMrulz
Because most of the development work on the E-Ray is done. GM isn't going to go back and make significant changes to the design at this point. Any benchmarking on the E-Ray was started, and largely completed, years ago. If they're starting a new benchmark process on the E-Ray now, we won't see that car until 2025 - 2026.

And because the performance of the Ferrari is in Zora territory, not E-Ray territory.
What is a significant change? Going from a supposed 2 kWh battery to a 10 kWh battery? Making it a PHEV. I would suggest both of those "changes" if they are in fact changes, would be relatively simple - at least as to further R&D. AND both of those are already part of the development of other vehicles going back over the past decade. It would be far better to delay production the extra 3 months instead of delivering an out of date product. Maybe they just want to see how their Eray in fact measures against the SF90 - that has been out for several years and figure out what they will have to add to the ZR1/Zora to exceed it.

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