Can an E-Ray still be ordered/waiting listed?
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06-01-2023, 12:15 PM
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06-01-2023, 02:32 PM
#24
I guess demand is still slowly trickling in for the ERay. Of course we only have the MM list to gauge interest.
06-01-2023, 03:18 PM
#25
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06-01-2023, 03:39 PM
#26
Melting Slicks
I believe many guys on the Eray lists are going to drop off once the initial enthusiasm is gone because the value is just not there:
1. Half second faster 0-60 for $40K over Stingray.
2. AWD is not a significant selling point for a Corvette.
3. Fuel economy is no better than Stingray.
4. Hybrid tech is complex and unproven so very likely problematic.
5 Car is too heavy so handling is degraded.
6. Wide body is not worth $100K + price.
7. Doing cyclones in the snow is not a selling point.
1. Half second faster 0-60 for $40K over Stingray.
2. AWD is not a significant selling point for a Corvette.
3. Fuel economy is no better than Stingray.
4. Hybrid tech is complex and unproven so very likely problematic.
5 Car is too heavy so handling is degraded.
6. Wide body is not worth $100K + price.
7. Doing cyclones in the snow is not a selling point.
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06-01-2023, 04:38 PM
#27
I believe many guys on the Eray lists are going to drop off once the initial enthusiasm is gone because the value is just not there:
1. Half second faster 0-60 for $40K over Stingray.
2. AWD is not a significant selling point for a Corvette.
3. Fuel economy is no better than Stingray.
4. Hybrid tech is complex and unproven so very likely problematic.
5 Car is too heavy so handling is degraded.
6. Wide body is not worth $100K + price.
7. Doing cyclones in the snow is not a selling point.
1. Half second faster 0-60 for $40K over Stingray.
2. AWD is not a significant selling point for a Corvette.
3. Fuel economy is no better than Stingray.
4. Hybrid tech is complex and unproven so very likely problematic.
5 Car is too heavy so handling is degraded.
6. Wide body is not worth $100K + price.
7. Doing cyclones in the snow is not a selling point.
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06-01-2023, 04:45 PM
#28
Melting Slicks
There's no way to justify the Z06 over the base model either, but demand seems to be staying strong for those. I'm more interested in seeing what kind of monthly allocations they will give for the Eray. If the limiting factor for Z06 is engine production, then what will be the limiting factor for Erays? If everything is not restricted, they could make 150 a day and wait lists will disappear quickly.
Z06 is justifiable for its exotic engine and racetrack prowess. It is a bargain version of the 458 Italia, but faster on the track. Exhaust sound is unique for Corvette too so it will be a collectible for the foreseeable future.
06-01-2023, 04:51 PM
#29
Melting Slicks
I believe many guys on the Eray lists are going to drop off once the initial enthusiasm is gone because the value is just not there:
1. Half second faster 0-60 for $40K over Stingray. When you are already under 3 seconds, 1/2 a second is huge.
2. AWD is not a significant selling point for a Corvette. For many it will be, for someone (s) it will be the difference between life and death.
3. Fuel economy is no better than Stingray. How do you know? I drive @ 4miles to work every morning. If I start out in Stealth mode every day what will be my average mpg?
4. Hybrid tech is complex and unproven so very likely problematic. Hybrids have been around a long time. Chevy Volt design is over 10 years old.
5 Car is too heavy so handling is degraded. And AWD with torque vectoring might upgrade it on certain tracks/roads.
6. Wide body is not worth $100K + price. Well if that was all you were getting.... but it is also the quickest production Corvette ever and more.
7. Doing cyclones in the snow is not a selling point. I agree
1. Half second faster 0-60 for $40K over Stingray. When you are already under 3 seconds, 1/2 a second is huge.
2. AWD is not a significant selling point for a Corvette. For many it will be, for someone (s) it will be the difference between life and death.
3. Fuel economy is no better than Stingray. How do you know? I drive @ 4miles to work every morning. If I start out in Stealth mode every day what will be my average mpg?
4. Hybrid tech is complex and unproven so very likely problematic. Hybrids have been around a long time. Chevy Volt design is over 10 years old.
5 Car is too heavy so handling is degraded. And AWD with torque vectoring might upgrade it on certain tracks/roads.
6. Wide body is not worth $100K + price. Well if that was all you were getting.... but it is also the quickest production Corvette ever and more.
7. Doing cyclones in the snow is not a selling point. I agree
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06-01-2023, 05:05 PM
#30
Melting Slicks
I'm sure it is quicker than my Stingray, but not worth $40K more to go a half second faster to 60. If dealers add $20K ADM on top of $40K, the decision is easy: Pass.
06-02-2023, 12:07 PM
#31
ADM on Eray is just theoretical at this point. Once they are on the market for a year, ADMs will not be the rule. Personally, I would like to drive an Eray but not enough to pay any ADM.
I'm sure it is quicker than my Stingray, but not worth $40K more to go a half second faster to 60. If dealers add $20K ADM on top of $40K, the decision is easy: Pass.
I'm sure it is quicker than my Stingray, but not worth $40K more to go a half second faster to 60. If dealers add $20K ADM on top of $40K, the decision is easy: Pass.
06-02-2023, 05:33 PM
#32
I would guess that availability will be limited by battery availability. I hope the rollout is quicker and smoother than the Z06.
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06-03-2023, 05:22 AM
#33
Race Director
I am reporting what my friend did. He paid msrp. Ordered the car exactly as he wanted it and 10 weeks later took delivery.
beautiful stingray z51 and 2LT with a few choice options. He didn’t bother with the front end lift as we don’t need it in the NNJ area. He wasn’t on a reservation list.
I remember when we first spoke about ordering a car and then his delivery.
im only reporting what occurred.
06-03-2023, 02:25 PM
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I don't pay over list for my cars.......... MSRP hurts as it is. I don't mind a deposit...... but committing to $X dollars over MSRP when crap is happening in the world everyday is nuts. I'll get on you list, we'd talk about the deal when the allocation comes up. In 2013 I had just bought a c6 from Coughlin and wanted to get on the list for a C7. They said sure give us $2K. What I just bought a car from you! Last time I bought there.
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06-05-2023, 09:09 AM
#35
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Greg00Coupe, I wish more people thought like you and I. I will only pay albeit, begrudgingly, MSRP. I have patience and can wait until the frenzy has died down.
That said, I am on a waiting list for an ERAY.
That said, I am on a waiting list for an ERAY.
06-08-2023, 01:36 AM
#36
Heel & Toe
Hit up Hewlett Chevrolet in Georgetown. I’m on their list with nothing down. Not sure what the wait will be though.
06-08-2023, 01:55 AM
#37
I believe many guys on the Eray lists are going to drop off once the initial enthusiasm is gone because the value is just not there:
1. Half second faster 0-60 for $40K over Stingray.
2. AWD is not a significant selling point for a Corvette.
3. Fuel economy is no better than Stingray.
4. Hybrid tech is complex and unproven so very likely problematic.
5 Car is too heavy so handling is degraded.
6. Wide body is not worth $100K + price.
7. Doing cyclones in the snow is not a selling point.
1. Half second faster 0-60 for $40K over Stingray.
2. AWD is not a significant selling point for a Corvette.
3. Fuel economy is no better than Stingray.
4. Hybrid tech is complex and unproven so very likely problematic.
5 Car is too heavy so handling is degraded.
6. Wide body is not worth $100K + price.
7. Doing cyclones in the snow is not a selling point.
One way of summarizing the differences between the Z06 and E-Ray, it's:
Z06: Great fun at track speeds;
E-Ray: Great fun at street-legal speeds.
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And there you have it. Cliff's Notes for Z06 vs E-Ray!!!
06-08-2023, 09:41 AM
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Right now, the Unofficial MacMulkin E-Ray Waitlist : 2023 only goes up to 580.
If anybody would like their name added to the list, please PM cwaddell with your deposit date and waitlist #: https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/private.php?do=newpm&u=661433
We had a list like this when I bought my Stingray, and it was great fun to follow along with everyone else as people started getting their cars. There was a sense of camaraderie.
If anybody would like their name added to the list, please PM cwaddell with your deposit date and waitlist #: https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/private.php?do=newpm&u=661433
We had a list like this when I bought my Stingray, and it was great fun to follow along with everyone else as people started getting their cars. There was a sense of camaraderie.
06-08-2023, 10:32 AM
#40
Burning Brakes
I'm late to the party as well as I was perfectly happy with my base C8. Right up until I totaled it 2 weeks ago. It looks like the base model market is softening quickly. First 2 local dealers told me they still have a year - two year wait, but macmulkin says 4-6 months, and after expanding my search around home, I found 2 dealers who say either June or July for an msrp allocation. Since any of those options still had me getting a replacement fairly close to the end of ohio corvette weather, I figure I might as well wait and just get on a list for spring delivery, and see if there's any chance I can get an Eray allocation that would get me one by then. So far, I'm not seeing it. One of my local dealers says they're already on a couple year wait, macmulkin is probably 3 years, and a few other msrp base model dealers are saying there will be an ADM for the Eray, they just don't know how much yet. I'll keep calling and looking in the hopes I can find one, but don't hold out much hope unless I get lucky when Ciocca finally starts taking orders. Good luck in the hunt.