What if the new ME Car is not a Corvette?
02-06-2018, 11:43 AM
#21
Race Director
Been a lot of debate on this very notion, as there have also been good counter-arguments advanced for why GM won't make them simultaneously, or perhaps only a short time.
I'm rooting for a model line expansion AND racing them in two different IMSA classes like the Porsche guys...twice the fun!
02-06-2018, 12:37 PM
#22
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02-06-2018, 01:12 PM
#23
I'd be shocked if the mid engined car isn't branded as a Corvette *sub-model name here*. And equally as shocked if we see a mid engined Cadillac anytime in the near future. It's a damn shame the Cien hasn't ever made it past the concept/dream stage, it's a stunner.
02-06-2018, 02:55 PM
#26
02-06-2018, 03:12 PM
#27
when you look at the images of Cien it looks a lot like the mules. I wouldn’t be surprised if they changed a few things and this what the ME Vette looks like.
02-06-2018, 03:32 PM
#28
Le Mans Master
I always though a Caddy was a bit ostentatious and bought mostly by older rich people, can't see a market for a ME Caddy wannabee Corvette...they will loose their shirt trying to flog that.
then again my first car bought was a Corvair a penny picher for repairs, but was dam good in the snow.
then again my first car bought was a Corvair a penny picher for repairs, but was dam good in the snow.
02-06-2018, 04:12 PM
#29
Wouldn't bother me one bit, in fact, I'd actually like it.
02-06-2018, 06:29 PM
#30
Race Director
The Cien was a show car in 2002.
There is no way the C8 is going to look anything like it.
That said, it (Cien) is still fresh looking. Too bad they never made it.
It's pronounced See In
There is no way the C8 is going to look anything like it.
That said, it (Cien) is still fresh looking. Too bad they never made it.
It's pronounced See In
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02-06-2018, 07:30 PM
#31
Le Mans Master
I would not mind a Caddy like above, but out of my price range unless same as a base Vette.
02-06-2018, 07:41 PM
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I think he's referring to the unsleeved aluminum blocks. GM had a hell of a time with wear in theirs in the Vega. Porsche 928s had an issue with premature thrust bearing wear or failure, but I can't see how that's related to the aluminum block.
02-06-2018, 07:49 PM
#33
Cadillac's big problem is they don't have any cars in the market people are buying cars in. CUVs. They have one offering, the XT5. Big SUVs they own but that market is almost as limited as Sports Cars. They have some really nice sedans but people aren't buying sedans of any make. They all want CUVs. Unlike Corvette Caddy can't survive being in a niche market with small volumes. Even though the Ford GT is a couple hundred thousand car it is still a Ford and not a Lincoln.
I've owned several in the last 15 years and loved 'em.
Visually stunning (when compared to some of the Euros), well designed, mechanically sound and fairly good fit & finish.
It's really unfortunate they don't sell better.
IMO, Barra needs to replace the Marketing Dept. with folks who can get the job done.
02-07-2018, 07:17 AM
#34
It pains me to see Cadillac doing poorly (apparently).
I've owned several in the last 15 years and loved 'em.
Visually stunning (when compared to some of the Euros), well designed, mechanically sound and fairly good fit & finish.
It's really unfortunate they don't sell better.
IMO, Barra needs to replace the Marketing Dept. with folks who can get the job done.
We can't be THAT lucky...
Sad but true.
I've owned several in the last 15 years and loved 'em.
Visually stunning (when compared to some of the Euros), well designed, mechanically sound and fairly good fit & finish.
It's really unfortunate they don't sell better.
IMO, Barra needs to replace the Marketing Dept. with folks who can get the job done.
We can't be THAT lucky...
Sad but true.
02-07-2018, 11:56 AM
#35
Le Mans Master
An ME car will certainly allow them to push the envelope much further, and for those that want an exotic but don't want to pay the 2 or 3 hundred grand they require, the Corvette is the car. It will also give a lot more room in the development of tech.
So, I can see them putting out an ME car, but I can't see them making the entire nameplate ME. The grand touring design with front engine is by far more practical for those that like to take trips in their car, or those that daily drive the car. It seems to me that if they went all ME, they would lose about 2/3's of their loyal following.
02-07-2018, 01:12 PM
#36
when you look at the rear of the Cien you see the same type of depression in the mules where the engine will be set. Moreover, the long base from the door to the rear have similiar length. By no means will it look the same but I see a lot of the Cien in the mules with some updates to the front and side with vents. Just my 2 cents. It would be cool if someone could do a render based on the Cien, to see if the dimensions match from the cad.
As it turned out, the rear looked very similar to the Caddy XLR:
02-09-2018, 07:47 PM
#38
Safety Car
Yes, yes. And it probably will not occur until at least the 2022 model year as Cadillac is more than busy bringing out 18 new models in the next three years — most of them CUV’s, SUV’s and electrics.
Last edited by elegant; 02-09-2018 at 07:48 PM.
