Go Back  CorvetteForum - Chevrolet Corvette Forum Discussion > C8 Corvette > C8 General Discussion
Reload this Page >

What we kinda found our at Funfest at GMs sponsored presentation

C8 General Discussion The place to discuss the next generation of Corvette, be it mid-engine, Zora, or whatever form it may take.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

What we kinda found our at Funfest at GMs sponsored presentation

 
Old 09-21-2018, 07:22 PM
  #1  
C5Driver
CF Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Member Since: Nov 2004
Posts: 489
Recieved 168 Likes on 90 Posts
Default What we kinda found our at Funfest at GMs sponsored presentation

So the car was solely referred to as the 2020 C8. It was emphasized many times that mid engine and some sort of awd system works best in a mid motor configuration. DTC was mentioned more than once, 7 speed dtc was mentioned once. Electric and mechanical awd was discussed a lot. NO V6 Dave then gave me a glare and said I needed to have my mouth washed out with soap for even bringing that up. All he said about price was the old GM mantra it will compare with todayís models but just what model that is was not mentioned. Nothing much else was said but they did have extensive videos of the car on the track in Germany.
C5Driver is offline  
The following 11 users liked this post by C5Driver:
dmaxx3500 (09-25-2018), entologix (09-23-2018), fasttoys (09-21-2018), firstvettesoon (09-22-2018), Flex182 (09-23-2018), FrankLP (09-23-2018), millpond (09-21-2018), nist7 (09-22-2018), RedDropTop (09-21-2018), SpeedyD (09-21-2018), sunsalem (09-22-2018)
Old 09-21-2018, 07:35 PM
  #2  
fasttoys
CF Senior Member
 
fasttoys's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2004
Posts: 970
Recieved 312 Likes on 143 Posts
Default

C5driver I hope you enjoyed the soap as every time you mentioned v6 in other post i was wondering if you needed a hearing aideBob Lutz had great video info in autoline last night too.


Good info thanks

Last edited by fasttoys; 09-21-2018 at 07:35 PM.
fasttoys is offline  
Old 09-21-2018, 07:48 PM
  #3  
Jeff V.
CF Senior Member
 
Jeff V.'s Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2017
Location: Kansas City MO
Posts: 1,976
Recieved 835 Likes on 501 Posts
Default

This was Dave McLellan, right?

Just so everyone is aware, in case there's any confusion, Dave retired before the C5 was even a thing (1992). So while he's got some valued, respected insight, it's highly unlikely he's in the loop regarding the specifics of a car 4 generations removed from his tenure at GM.
Jeff V. is offline  
Old 09-21-2018, 07:52 PM
  #4  
RedDropTop
CF Senior Member
 
RedDropTop's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2018
Location: Metro Detroit MI
Posts: 122
Recieved 61 Likes on 29 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by C5Driver View Post
So the car was solely referred to as the 2020 C8. It was emphasized many times that mid engine and some sort of awd system works best in a mid motor configuration. DTC was mentioned more than once, 7 speed dtc was mentioned once. Electric and mechanical awd was discussed a lot. NO V6 Dave then gave me a glare and said I needed to have my mouth washed out with soap for even bringing that up. All he said about price was the old GM mantra it will compare with todayís models but just what model that is was not mentioned. Nothing much else was said but they did have extensive videos of the car on the track in Germany.
Thank you, C5Driver, for this report!

"2020 C8". This is exciting! So we know what they refer to it as.

"It was emphasized many times that mid engine and some sort of awd system works best in a mid motor configuration." Great, they discussed "mid motor". Very good.

"DTC was mentioned more than once, 7 speed dtc was mentioned once." Okay, so they have admitted to DCT. Check.

"Electric and mechanical awd was discussed a lot." Yeah, as Lutz (and others) said back in 2015 that there would eventually be an electric motor in the front.

"NO V6 Dave then gave me a glare and said I needed to have my mouth washed out with soap for even bringing that up." Ha ha. That is funny. Okay, so we know it is definitely V8.

"All he said about price was the old GM mantra it will compare with todayís models but just what model that is was not mentioned." Okay. Good. Price attainable by current Corvette buyers.

"Nothing much else was said but they did have extensive videos of the car on the track in Germany." Cool! Actually showing video of the ME car! This is exciting!
RedDropTop is online now  
Old 09-21-2018, 08:04 PM
  #5  
NoOne
CF Senior Member
 
NoOne's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 1999
Location: Auburn Hills MI
Posts: 26,558
Recieved 147 Likes on 103 Posts
Default

If AWD/Hybrid comes along, and its under 100k it will be game changing.
NoOne is offline  
The following users liked this post:
purple heart (09-23-2018)
Old 09-22-2018, 09:12 AM
  #6  
WhiteDiamond
CF Senior Member
 
WhiteDiamond's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2001
Location: Castle Rock CO
Posts: 11,128
Recieved 62 Likes on 44 Posts
St. Jude Donor '15
Default

My guess has been that GM would try some sort of electric front drive to give a "higher" performance version extra capability. I would be surprised to see GM do much more than a simple system with a relatively small battery. I don't think there will be a C8 with a driveshaft running up to the front.
WhiteDiamond is offline  
Old 09-22-2018, 01:12 PM
  #7  
Mr Triple Black
CF Senior Member
 
Member Since: May 2018
Posts: 217
Recieved 70 Likes on 49 Posts
Default

I prefer no electric and RWD over AWD. Hopefully they continue that in the future. I definitely wish the NSX had a RWD only option. Iím not into the over engineering of products. I think thatís why cars like the original NSX, the C5/C6 Z06s, and S2000, were all so popular.
Mr Triple Black is offline  
The following 3 users liked this post by Mr Triple Black:
k wright (09-23-2018), PurpleLion (09-22-2018), RJ-92 (09-23-2018)
Old 09-22-2018, 01:43 PM
  #8  
sunsalem
CF Senior Member
 
sunsalem's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2014
Posts: 9,521
Recieved 1,383 Likes on 1,046 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by C5Driver View Post
So the car was solely referred to as the 2020 C8. It was emphasized many times that mid engine and some sort of awd system works best in a mid motor configuration. DTC was mentioned more than once, 7 speed dtc was mentioned once. Electric and mechanical awd was discussed a lot. NO V6 Dave then gave me a glare and said I needed to have my mouth washed out with soap for even bringing that up. All he said about price was the old GM mantra it will compare with todayís models but just what model that is was not mentioned. Nothing much else was said but they did have extensive videos of the car on the track in Germany.
Thank you for putting some official meat on the bones.

Originally Posted by WhiteDiamond View Post
My guess has been that GM would try some sort of electric front drive to give a "higher" performance version extra capability. I would be surprised to see GM do much more than a simple system with a relatively small battery. I don't think there will be a C8 with a driveshaft running up to the front.
Agreed.
At this point, it doesn't make much business sense for such a system.

Originally Posted by Mr Triple Black View Post
I prefer no electric and RWD over AWD. Hopefully they continue that in the future. I definitely wish the NSX had a RWD only option..
REAL Sportscars are RWD...so sayeth the toad:



sunsalem is online now  
Old 09-22-2018, 04:25 PM
  #9  
JoesC5
CF Senior Member
 
Member Since: Sep 1999
Location: Springfield MO
Posts: 40,122
Recieved 1,379 Likes on 1,002 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Mr Triple Black View Post
I prefer no electric and RWD over AWD. Hopefully they continue that in the future. I definitely wish the NSX had a RWD only option. Iím not into the over engineering of products. I think thatís why cars like the original NSX, the C5/C6 Z06s, and S2000, were all so popular.

With the ultra poor sales of the AWD NSX, I bet Acura wishes it also didn't have a AWD with all that crappy electric ****. Maybe more than a half dozen people a month would be interested in buying a new NSX if it was less complicated and less money.
JoesC5 is online now  
Old 09-22-2018, 04:31 PM
  #10  
Mr Triple Black
CF Senior Member
 
Member Since: May 2018
Posts: 217
Recieved 70 Likes on 49 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by JoesC5 View Post
With the ultra poor sales of the AWD NSX, I bet Acura wishes it also didn't have a AWD with all that crappy electric ****. Maybe more than a half dozen people a month would be interested in buying a new NSX if it was less complicated and less money.
100%
if the car was 80-110k, RWD, and the same amount of power it has now but less weight, it would have been the original NSX all over again. Would have totally disrupted the industry. Instead you have people buying heavily discounted new ones for 120k because sales are so trash which has made the secondary market more than awful because dealers want 130k for those and owners donít want to sell/trade in due to fear of taking the giant hit.

Audi did much better in 08 with the R8. I always said that was the new NSX.
Mr Triple Black is offline  
Old 09-22-2018, 10:49 PM
  #11  
Jeff V.
CF Senior Member
 
Jeff V.'s Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2017
Location: Kansas City MO
Posts: 1,976
Recieved 835 Likes on 501 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by sunsalem View Post
Thank you for putting some official meat on the bones.
Dave has been retired for over 25 years. The C5 was barely into the napkin doodles phase when he left. How is this in any way "official" ?
Jeff V. is offline  
Old 09-23-2018, 12:18 AM
  #12  
pietro c7
CF Senior Member
 
pietro c7's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2013
Location: montreal quebec
Posts: 1,052
Likes: 0
Recieved 277 Likes on 172 Posts
Default

Dave probably has a good chance of having a ďball park ď figure of what this car is and approximate cost.

....and so does Bob Lutz,...Peter DeLorenzo...and so on...


pietro c7 is offline  
Old 09-23-2018, 12:27 AM
  #13  
Jeff V.
CF Senior Member
 
Jeff V.'s Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2017
Location: Kansas City MO
Posts: 1,976
Recieved 835 Likes on 501 Posts
Default

I've said they have valuable opinions. But as much as I respect them, they haven't been part of GM for 10-20 years. Nothing they say is "official" at all.
Jeff V. is offline  
Old 09-23-2018, 01:04 AM
  #14  
kingpin111
CF Senior Member
 
kingpin111's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2004
Location: Saskatoon Saskatchewan
Posts: 7,734
Recieved 53 Likes on 30 Posts
Default

Here is the video of what the OP is talking about that I started in another thread.

kingpin111 is offline  
The following 2 users liked this post by kingpin111:
entologix (09-23-2018), RedDropTop (09-23-2018)
Old 09-23-2018, 02:01 AM
  #15  
sunsalem
CF Senior Member
 
sunsalem's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2014
Posts: 9,521
Recieved 1,383 Likes on 1,046 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Jeff V. View Post
I've said they have valuable opinions. But as much as I respect them, they haven't been part of GM for 10-20 years. Nothing they say is "official" at all.
Sorry, I didn't mean to imply OFFICIAL official.
Rather, that it was from a credible source (for once).
sunsalem is online now  
Old 09-23-2018, 03:00 AM
  #16  
RedDropTop
CF Senior Member
 
RedDropTop's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2018
Location: Metro Detroit MI
Posts: 122
Recieved 61 Likes on 29 Posts
Default

Thank you, kingpin111, for posting this video!
RedDropTop is online now  
The following users liked this post:
kingpin111 (09-23-2018)
Old 09-23-2018, 07:55 AM
  #17  
Rkreigh
CF Senior Member
 
Member Since: Dec 1999
Location: Alexandria, Virginia, USA VA
Posts: 7,872
Recieved 82 Likes on 72 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by JoesC5 View Post
With the ultra poor sales of the AWD NSX, I bet Acura wishes it also didn't have a AWD with all that crappy electric ****. Maybe more than a half dozen people a month would be interested in buying a new NSX if it was less complicated and less money.
at the high price point the nsx won't sell corvette hopefully learns from their mistakes. the electric front drive would be cool if they used capacitors and a small battery to keep weight down

energy recovery is a good thing as is instant torq they have quite a bit invested in the electric technology and it could be a nice upgrade if done well
Rkreigh is offline  
Old 09-23-2018, 08:23 AM
  #18  
fake
CF Senior Member
 
Member Since: Jan 2004
Location: Glastonbury CT
Posts: 1,153
Recieved 46 Likes on 45 Posts
Default

Simce the late 70'S they have been talking about a mid engine. Give me a break it will never happen! They will loose to many customers. Now a all Electric count me in ,with a 500 mile range. I hate pumping smelly gas. Wake up GM electric is the future and the cars are quick!
fake is offline  
Old 09-23-2018, 08:45 AM
  #19  
keagan
CF Senior Member
 
keagan's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2004
Posts: 2,645
Recieved 287 Likes on 193 Posts
Default

How much would a car like this weigh IF it comes with AWD, Electric Motors, DCT, Safety stuff and all that comes with vettes? I cannot imagine the Z version being turbocharged, AWD and have electric motors. That's a whole lotta added weight. Will the usual suspected parts be Carbon Fiber (e.g. Hood, Doors, Roof)?
keagan is offline  
Old 09-23-2018, 10:04 AM
  #20  
Walter Raulerson
CF Senior Member
 
Member Since: Nov 2017
Posts: 605
Recieved 69 Likes on 55 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by keagan View Post
How much would a car like this weigh IF it comes with AWD, Electric Motors, DCT, Safety stuff and all that comes with vettes? I cannot imagine the Z version being turbocharged, AWD and have electric motors. That's a whole lotta added weight. Will the usual suspected parts be Carbon Fiber (e.g. Hood, Doors, Roof)?
GM is keeping the price "down" buy STILL using aluminum and sparsely using carbon fiber
Walter Raulerson is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: What we kinda found our at Funfest at GMs sponsored presentation


Sponsored Ads
Vendor Directory

Contact Us - About Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

© 2019 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands

We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.
 
  • Ask a Question
    Get answers from community experts
Question Title:
Description:
Your question will be posted in: