No reveal in January
#21
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Thanks to fasttoys, learned that the new Porsche 911 reveal will be next November in LA, so GM realizes that the 2020 ME Corvette has got to be before then. Yes, little consolidation for all of us who were hoping it would have been in just three weeks at this LA Auto Show.
Imagine how many of us would have already gotten our airline tickets if it had been in just three weeks there.... Damn.
Imagine how many of us would have already gotten our airline tickets if it had been in just three weeks there.... Damn.
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#22
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64 days and we will see who is right...
till we can each believe what we think will happen..
should be exciting
till we can each believe what we think will happen..
should be exciting
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#23
As another forum member wrote Saturday: "Within minutes, the C8 debut will be electronically relayed via news and YouTube around the globe via the Internet."
We'll ALL be on the information superhighway when and where the C8 debut happens. Regardless where we happen to be on Earth!
We'll ALL be on the information superhighway when and where the C8 debut happens. Regardless where we happen to be on Earth!
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#24
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I've dealt with a lot of dealers (service people) and they don't know jack most of the time. Salespeople? Depending on the topic they have some knowledge but only as it relates to future events the dealer has been briefed on such as a Mfr promo event, Mfr event where announcement on product plans are made, Mfr events where they reveal an upcoming model. If other dealers are saying they don't know, then the one you talked to doesn't know either.
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I've dealt with a lot of dealers (service people) and they don't know jack most of the time. Salespeople? Depending on the topic they have some knowledge but only as it relates to future events the dealer has been briefed on such as a Mfr promo event, Mfr event where announcement on product plans are made, Mfr events where they reveal an upcoming model. If other dealers are saying they don't know, then the one you talked to doesn't know either.
In my state, a sales person can say anything verbally and its not enforceable as it related to vehicles contract. It has to be in writing and, in some cases, signed by the sales manager. I once bought a car and one of the pieces of paper I had to sign included that clause.
However, my sales person, I believe, knows a little more about the ME than the average sales person due to his position, location, and people he knows at GM. In any case, things could change. And nobody except for the senior managers at GM knows positively some of the details we all want to know about. Either GM is still working on them or GM hasn't approved yet for production.
Again, we will all find out when the details are released hopeful in early January. I already booked my flight.
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There are certain dealer personnel, who by virtue of their tremendous influence and importance to GM, do have access to what's going on because their opinions matter a great deal. Some dealer personnel have seen what is close to the final production car.
NYC has been leaked as the current plan, but that could change. There's nothing official on record.
NYC has been leaked as the current plan, but that could change. There's nothing official on record.
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And I think the bit about wishful thinking and the more carefully crafted response on going thru the steps leading to green lights and go on production indicates a lot. "We" collectively, and even GM might like to do a first reveal or intro at Detroit, but it just may not be feasible. And maybe not for the reasons we think.
While other car mfrs. have had ME cars, GM has not (really, even with the Fiero). And with each successive gen of Corvette, they really do try to get the car "right-er" for the customers. More good stuff like power, better materials, etc. Again, while it's not rocket science, it is a lot of testing for parts compatibility, endurance, govt. regs, etc.
Not to mention new production methods and training existing employees probably with new lines and equipment to use. It's a big deal. And it just may take longer.
Plus, think of the expectation by "us"---after the intro, "we" want it in production in weeks, not months beyond six. (like 7 or 8 mos. after intro).
So, to me, it really is a timing issue---for them to get it right, and for us to expect it in a relatively short period of time after intro. jmo
While other car mfrs. have had ME cars, GM has not (really, even with the Fiero). And with each successive gen of Corvette, they really do try to get the car "right-er" for the customers. More good stuff like power, better materials, etc. Again, while it's not rocket science, it is a lot of testing for parts compatibility, endurance, govt. regs, etc.
Not to mention new production methods and training existing employees probably with new lines and equipment to use. It's a big deal. And it just may take longer.
Plus, think of the expectation by "us"---after the intro, "we" want it in production in weeks, not months beyond six. (like 7 or 8 mos. after intro).
So, to me, it really is a timing issue---for them to get it right, and for us to expect it in a relatively short period of time after intro. jmo
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Don't know how we supposedly got here!, ... Wasn't it CLEARLY stated and backed up that the reveal will be late March, early April at the NY Auto Show, as made known in the previous thread about a month ago!??? .... I know, I'm all in with the belief that New York will be the reveal location!
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Stew, yes it was rather clearly stated (more accurately leaked) by authoritative sources it would be NYC. However, hope springs eternal in many.
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Admittedly, the above pic was lifted from the previous related thread. People, .. be logical here. With the original Corvette being revealed in New York City, this total rebirth to the mid engine format makes perfect historical sense as well. But what REALLY makes sense is, ... This car's introduction/ with announcement of an affordable $70K base price, is most likely to FREEZE C7 sales immediately!!! Now, ask yourself ... Would GM rather have C7 sales grind to a halt in January 2019, with potential buyers waiting 9 months for the October '19 ME release, or would they rather have to endure a major C7 sales dropoff from April till October???
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Admittedly, the above pic was lifted from the previous related thread. People, .. be logical here. With the original Corvette being revealed in New York City, this total rebirth to the mid engine format makes perfect historical sense as well. But what REALLY makes sense is, ... This car's introduction/ with announcement of an affordable $70K base price, is most likely to FREEZE C7 sales immediately!!! Now, ask yourself ... Would GM rather have C7 sales grind to a halt in January 2019, with potential buyers waiting 9 months for the October '19 ME release, or would they rather have to endure a major C7 sales dropoff from April till October???
It's also not going to change the fact that it'll take months for supply to catch up to demand, and for those ridiculous dealer markups to drop off. If someone wants a Corvette now they'll buy a discounted C7. If they want the ME car, then they're probably prepared to overpay or wait, regardless of when it's introduced.
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It really doesn't matter which dealership it is, I think the OP's timeline is correct.
#33
It would be nice were it (C8) ready for the annual Detroit Auto Show. The C7's showcasing release was EPIC !
. It got me re-interested in the 3+ decades of old blase' unperfected and unexciting Corvette series releases I endured since my bought new C3 42 years ago.....
.Chevrolet had better hold my attention and keep my interest up since I bought a new 2017 C7 last Fall. I'm in the buying mood, and a fantastic new C8, might be my next new Corvette.
. It got me re-interested in the 3+ decades of old blase' unperfected and unexciting Corvette series releases I endured since my bought new C3 42 years ago.....
.Chevrolet had better hold my attention and keep my interest up since I bought a new 2017 C7 last Fall. I'm in the buying mood, and a fantastic new C8, might be my next new Corvette.
#35
Originally Posted by hunter105 I have heard from my dealer and dealers were invited to a GM seminar about the C8 and nothing about the $169000 was mentioned pertaining to the C8. But a mid engine Cadillac with a solid convertible roof was mentioned. It was said to top out at the high $150000.The first C8'S rolling off the production line would be a large amount of 1LT' S. Also the Front engine C7 will continue to be built until 2020. After the release of the base cars Chevy will slowly start producing a 2LT and 3LT models. Then a GS and a Z06 model. Months ago there was a guy who said he knew a guy who was a GM engineer and he was told that the highest end mid engine would be a Cadillac, Also the car will be unveiled at the NY Auto show along with the Cadillac. Cadillac will also introduce us to its midengined Hybrid capable of producing 800 HP.