C8 Delayed?
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Apparently, building an ME is not just a matter of moving the engine 3 feet back and going for pizza and beer. Folks here who thought creating the ME would be simple and cheap to do, clearly don't understand engineering or physics. The forces that act on a ME car are completely different and that requires radical changes from a FE configuration. Creating Zora from scratch won't be cheap or easy, especially when its mission is to dominate tracks and reviews. Beating Porsche at its game is going to take time.
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Yeah, they were going to be built by the workers that GM just announced they are laying off... the few who could read.
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Apparently, building an ME is not just a matter of moving the engine 3 feet back and going for pizza and beer. Folks here who thought creating the ME would be simple and cheap to do, clearly don't understand engineering or physics. The forces that act on a ME car are completely different and that requires radical changes from a FE configuration. Creating Zora from scratch won't be cheap or easy, especially when its mission is to dominate tracks and reviews. Beating Porsche at its game is going to take time.
If there is no announcement by end of January I am going to pull the trigger on a 2020 911 to add to my gargage.
I have held off purchase as I am a die hard Corvette guy.
With that being said life is short and I have been holding off adding a additional toy as I am or should say was excited about a mid engine Corvette with a DOHC and DCT that would complete with the best in the world.
I live in FL so unlike some guys my driving season is year around. I was looking forward to a C8 mid engine.
In the next 2 month I will decide if I can wait until the fall of 2019 or go ahead and purchase a 911 in the spring of 2019.
I think there are lots of guys who are tired of waiting. GM may be more concerned with trying to sell the remaining C7 once the C8 is official?
But then again there are many on this forum that insist that they want the Corvette to remain a GT rather than a mid engine sports car.
I agree there are compromises to mid engine.
my 458 has very minimal storage so for r weekend getawaya my SC757 Callaway is the better choice.
Do I think regardless if GM announced the C8 there are still buyer for the C7. Expecially when the C7 sales are supported by Hugh incentive by GM.
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I don't know how much GM actually makes on the sale of Corvettes especially when you factor in all the money they just put into the BG Assembly Plant. If the bean counters at GM start crunching numbers I wouldn't be shocked to see them start producing vehicles other than Corvette/Cadillac sports cars. It is one of the older assembly plants in GM's arsenal but it has just been upgraded so it shouldn't be on any closure list. Even if all the C8 development tasks are complete GM could decide to delay its introduction but surely they would continue producing C7s as long as the demand is there. It would be nice if GM would just go ahead and officially announce what the heck they are going to do.
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tooold2race (11-27-2018)
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I don't know about the social media chatter, but the fact that they've committed the C7R to the full IMSA season says the C8 likely won't be sold anytime before Oct 2019. Now, would they debut the C8 during the season? That may not happen either.
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I don't know how much GM actually makes on the sale of Corvettes especially when you factor in all the money they just put into the BG Assembly Plant. If the bean counters at GM start crunching numbers I wouldn't be shocked to see them start producing vehicles other than Corvette/Cadillac sports cars. It is one of the older assembly plants in GM's arsenal but it has just been upgraded so it shouldn't be on any closure list. Even if all the C8 development tasks are complete GM could decide to delay its introduction but surely they would continue producing C7s as long as the demand is there. It would be nice if GM would just go ahead and officially announce what the heck they are going to do.
Things can change quickly, but I last heard that the C8 is on schedule with zero delays. GM’s top executives are very, very excited to see the car hit the market and I highly doubt that a major delay would occur for any financial reasons. This late in the pre-production Process, I’d think that the only time they could experience a major structural or mechanical issue that could cause a delay is in crash testing.
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elegant (11-28-2018)
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I'm one of the guys that has a deposit on a C8 at two different dealers. I've been buying new Corvettes since 1968 and quite honestly, I'm getting impatient waiting for the ME car. So impatient that I just may go out and find a new ZR1 to hold me over.
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Melting Slicks
I think many of us who have a deposit waiting for the C8 release are starting to lose patience .
If there is no announcement by end of January I am going to pull the trigger on a 2020 911 to add to my gargage.
I have held off purchase as I am a die hard Corvette guy.
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If there is no announcement by end of January I am going to pull the trigger on a 2020 911 to add to my gargage.
I have held off purchase as I am a die hard Corvette guy.
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#33
Melting Slicks
If there was some issue with the car, much better to catch it in testing than rushing to release and the problem surfaces in customer vehicles.
Take the Audi R8 for example- the whole front frame cracks from normal driving due to VW/Audi not properly reinforcing the frame in high stress areas. See the recent "Samcrac" videos on youtube where he buys a salvage one with this exact common issue.
Take the Audi R8 for example- the whole front frame cracks from normal driving due to VW/Audi not properly reinforcing the frame in high stress areas. See the recent "Samcrac" videos on youtube where he buys a salvage one with this exact common issue.
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elegant (11-28-2018)
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Better they take the time to get the design right than rush it to the market with potential problems. It would be nice if they put some information on timing out for those of us waiting to buy.
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LMAO, Mary Barra is probably the best suited manager to the times and one of the best in GM's last 50 years. But the time to act was 30 years ago when GM was the 800 pound gorilla.
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GM cannot be seen making 200 MPH gas guzzling sports cars while at the same time saying they are trying to bring them into the electric age. In reality, it makes no difference but the perception that they don't have their act together will be the problem.
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GM should have discouraged all dealers from taking money in advance when they don't know the selling price or delivery date. You just end up with upset customers.
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THIS is why I said before its a BAD idea for dealers to even take a deposit. There is nothing to be gained by either side and everyone feels either entitled or is disappointed.
GM should have discouraged all dealers from taking money in advance when they don't know the selling price or delivery date. You just end up with upset customers.
GM should have discouraged all dealers from taking money in advance when they don't know the selling price or delivery date. You just end up with upset customers.
GM could just as easily cancel this program and sweep it under the rug, and they wouldn't owe anyone (except maybe major shareholders) any explanation whatsoever.
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if you look at the f150 and 1500 sales of the big 3.. that's their sweet spot... even look at the wild success of the raptor.. now with the 3.5 EcoBoost.. people are going crazy for them.. dodge built the purpose built off road 1500.. can't remember the name.. gm may be trimming off all fat and gonna go hard on the 1500.. the 4 cylinder may or may not be great.. thats not much displacement for low end torque no matter how much boost .. its like 2.1 or something. fords branding of EcoBoost in the various configurations is very good... by 2020 its easy to imagine.. 1 economy car, 1 sedan (cop car size, full size) , 1x 1500 truck (various configurations), of course 2500, 3500, 5500 all with drama motors. and thats it..just like ford...ive never understood all the different models from the same make anyway...