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Corvette Manta Ray: GM's bold new plan

Old 12-04-2018, 06:08 PM
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On Point:, What do you mean no small block? All C7s have small blocks! Where did you hear that?

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This is what I've had hoped Chevy has been planning for the 8th gen Corvette and 7th gen Camaro, so I sure hope you're right!
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Old 12-04-2018, 06:14 PM
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Manta Ray is a ridiculous name, I just can't believe that is what it will be called. That's how they will attract younger, affluent import drivers? I don't think so. The name alone is embarrassing.
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Originally Posted by yellowmnm View Post
On Point:, What do you mean no small block? All C7s have small blocks! Where did you hear that?
One of the members in here proclaimed no small block in the ME (which is what a revised variant of the LT1 would be).

He's not taken seriously by many in here, though, as has served more as filler entertainment during this quiet lull b/n ME spottings and actual facts leaked.
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Old 12-04-2018, 06:36 PM
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I don't believe it. Anyone can come in here with a story, as did I, and say they are an insider. I don't see this model structure working.
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Old 12-04-2018, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Zerv02 View Post
The Man has spoken truth, the GT is still 169 though, no exceptions
I believe you said the ME would START at $169. No one ever seriously doubted a high-end version would be up in the mid $100K range just like the current ZR1. Talk about revisionist history.
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Old 12-04-2018, 06:51 PM
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I think much of what the OP wrote makes good sense. Doing a "Touring" version especially is smart as most Corvettes are NOT used on the track, and we are rich with "track" cars now (GS Z07/ Z06 Z07/ZR1).
I would love to see GM take a page out of Porsche's playbook and do a REAL track variant, de-contended (lighter) and a bump in HP (ala GT2RS/GT3RS/GT4). Offer a limited number and pre-sell them. EASY MONEY.

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Old 12-04-2018, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Zora.Info View Post
I don't believe it. Anyone can come in here with a story, as did I, and say they are an insider. I don't see this model structure working.
Your ideas have not been as well received as this. You have to ask yourself why your threads get closed and this one is getting a thoughtful reception.

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Originally Posted by Foosh View Post
I believe you said the ME would START at $169. No one ever seriously doubted a high-end version would be up in the mid $100K range just like the current ZR1. Talk about revisionist history.
Please don't....
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Old 12-04-2018, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by RJ-92 View Post
I don't see how that's possible @ 6.2L given current emissions standards. In order to create those #'s it would need quite a bit larger camshaft than what's currently int he LT1. It would also need to rev a bit higher as peak HP would need to be +6500RPM, likely necessitating port fuel-injection in compliment to the current DI only.
520 HP is not hard to get to and still meet emissions standards.
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Old 12-04-2018, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Zora.Info View Post
I don't believe it. Anyone can come in here with a story, as did I, and say they are an insider. I don't see this model structure working.
If you don’t believe me then that’s fine, I wouldn’t either if I was in your shoes, but I’m compelled to post now so there is less disappointment later when the Eagle has Landed.
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It's either completely true or a lie that makes eminent sense. Bravo.
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Old 12-04-2018, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by mschuyler View Post
Your ideas have not been as well received as this. You have to ask yourself why your threads get closed and this one is getting a thoughtful reception.
I ask myself why my threads get closed?!! Since when are you inside my brain? My threads get closed becuase I tell the mods to close them. They go way off topic becuase of idiots.
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Old 12-04-2018, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Atari_Prime View Post
If you donít believe me then thatís fine, I wouldnít either if I was in your shoes, but Iím compelled to post now so there is less disappointment later when the Eagle has Landed.
Sounds like you just slipped up, posted on the wrong account revealed you're the OP.
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Old 12-04-2018, 07:16 PM
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On Point, Yes, I heard that for the non-base Corvette. I heard that the first year base Corvette would most likely be the LT1 with a little more hp. And the second year where they would introduce GS would be a 4.2 twin turbo. So from what I have heard, they are right on point!
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Originally Posted by Zora.Info View Post
I ask myself why my threads get closed?!! Since when are you inside my brain? My threads get closed becuase I tell the mods to close them. They go way off topic becuase of idiots.
The point remains.
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Old 12-04-2018, 07:30 PM
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"Iím close enough to the inside to know the following about GMís plans for the Corvette."
So this guy is not on the inside of Corvette or GM. There is no explanation of his sources or how he got his information.
Anyone with actual knowledge who breaks GM's information embargo is terminated immediately and permanently, period.

"If you donít believe me then thatís fine, I wouldnít either if I was in your shoes."
So now he is off the hook for any BS being spread. Got it.

"The C8 Corvettes at NŁrburgring are the real thing."
Did anyone not know this? Why is he telling us this?

"A DCT transaxle is used in all C8 Corvettes, no exceptions."
Everyone knows this too. What is the point?

"The R&D investment in the DCT is said to be equivalent to that of both the manual and automatic in the C7 - they knew they had one chance to get the DCT right."
This is a nonsense statement: GM spent basically nothing additional for the transmissions in the C7 and if they built a DCT like the A8, they did not get it right. Should have bought a Getrag and saved time and money.

Bottom Line: This guy is a PR person or salesman who has heard some rumors.

What will GM do with all those Cadillac Blackwing TTs that now have no home with the CT6 cancelled?
Gee, I wonder?

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Old 12-04-2018, 07:38 PM
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It sounds reasonable. Just, what happens to the allocations process if any GM dealer can sell the brand.
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Old 12-04-2018, 07:44 PM
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It sounds reasonable. Just, what happens to the allocations process if any GM dealer can sell the brand.
Very good question. And GM already has its hands full trying to get Chevy dealers to properly service Corvettes. What is the point of going to a GMC dealer to buy a Corvette?
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Old 12-04-2018, 07:45 PM
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I do like the GT and GS idea. I don’t like the Manta Ray name or the idea for any GM division selling the Corvette.
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