If C8 is Auto...What will you do?
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Yeah, but how do you do that while taking selfies to post on instagram while you're driving?
If the C8 only comes with an automatic transmission, it seems it targets two demographics...millennials who want their cars to be household appliances so they can focus on social media efforts, and those who are older and have physical limitations using their leg. It leaves out those who are ambulatory, and who truly enjoy machines...even if we are Luddites.
If the C8 only comes with an automatic transmission, it seems it targets two demographics...millennials who want their cars to be household appliances so they can focus on social media efforts, and those who are older and have physical limitations using their leg. It leaves out those who are ambulatory, and who truly enjoy machines...even if we are Luddites.
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If the C8 only comes with an automatic transmission, it seems it targets two demographics...millennials who want their cars to be household appliances so they can focus on social media efforts, and those who are older and have physical limitations using their leg. It leaves out those who are ambulatory, and who truly enjoy machines...
Imagine GM delivers two transmissions in the car, and in a couple of years the take rate of manuals does drop below 10%. Then what? They've wasted the money on the R&D for that transmission. Guess who gets to pay for that? We do.
I don't like it. In fact, I think it sucks. I want three pedals and a stick shift even if its a few milliseconds slower around the track; manuals are just way too much FUN! But, it's difficult to argue with the numbers.
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I would seriously be put off by the auto. We're losing more and more driving involvement in all new cars and I am not about that. I don't want a Vette for keyboard racing where hundreds of seconds around a track I'll never go to are argued. I want a Vette (or any sports car) for the experience, it's all about the thrill of being connected to the car and having your inputs actually result in the outcome. Today any kid can drive an auto sports car at 8 10ths with little practice. New cars are basically video games at this point. I'll probably stick with my C4 and have fun with it. Would probably add a C6 Z too. But that will be the only ones for me.
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Yeah, but how do you do that while taking selfies to post on instagram while you're driving?
If the C8 only comes with an automatic transmission, it seems it targets two demographics...millennials who want their cars to be household appliances so they can focus on social media efforts, and those who are older and have physical limitations using their leg. It leaves out those who are ambulatory, and who truly enjoy machines...even if we are Luddites.
If the C8 only comes with an automatic transmission, it seems it targets two demographics...millennials who want their cars to be household appliances so they can focus on social media efforts, and those who are older and have physical limitations using their leg. It leaves out those who are ambulatory, and who truly enjoy machines...even if we are Luddites.
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Originally Posted by UsernameProtected Yeah, but how do you do that while taking selfies to post on instagram while you're driving?
If the C8 only comes with an automatic transmission, it seems it targets two demographics...millennials who want their cars to be household appliances so they can focus on social media efforts, and those who are older and have physical limitations using their leg. It leaves out those who are ambulatory, and who truly enjoy machines...even if we are Luddites.
If the C8 only comes with an automatic transmission, it seems it targets two demographics...millennials who want their cars to be household appliances so they can focus on social media efforts, and those who are older and have physical limitations using their leg. It leaves out those who are ambulatory, and who truly enjoy machines...even if we are Luddites.
If Chevy wants to sell the C8 in volume they need to cast as wide a net as is viable for a profitable car. To make it profitable something we might like will be lost in the trade offs. MT might be one of those things but hopefully the rest of the package will make up for it.
Then there is outside of sitting it out or buying an old car where are you going to go if you don't get 100% of what you want?
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None of can safely and legally use 100% of the performance even the base C7 offers on the street. I don't see a reason to rush to a shiny new object that provides more performance that can't be used, in exchange for having to give up the enjoyment of having 100% control over what the transmission is doing. At that point, I might as well just buy an electric vehicle.
Automatic-only Corvettes are a punch in the gut to driving enthusiasts. I realize people buy Corvettes for different reasons, and we're not all enthusiasts in the same way.
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My DD C7 has 18k miles in three years. I can wait a long time...probably long enough that I'm old enough I have physical limitations that force me to drive an automatic. I can also look at other manufacturer offerings. The truth is I have no need for a new car for a very, very long time, and if the C8 doesn't have a manual available, there will be no reason for me to look at any GM car to replace my C7.
None of can safely and legally use 100% of the performance even the base C7 offers on the street. I don't see a reason to rush to a shiny new object that provides more performance that can't be used, in exchange for having to give up the enjoyment of having 100% control over what the transmission is doing. At that point, I might as well just buy an electric vehicle.
Automatic-only Corvettes are a punch in the gut to driving enthusiasts. I realize people buy Corvettes for different reasons, and we're not all enthusiasts in the same way.
None of can safely and legally use 100% of the performance even the base C7 offers on the street. I don't see a reason to rush to a shiny new object that provides more performance that can't be used, in exchange for having to give up the enjoyment of having 100% control over what the transmission is doing. At that point, I might as well just buy an electric vehicle.
Automatic-only Corvettes are a punch in the gut to driving enthusiasts. I realize people buy Corvettes for different reasons, and we're not all enthusiasts in the same way.
All ready have a totally direct human to machine interface performance car to drive so it would be easier to let go of some items in a C8 which could be more of a GT then a classic sport car.
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Yeah...maybe I'm like those C6 guys who didn't want to upgrade because of the rectangular taillights. Both Corvettes I've owned have been manuals...it's tough to imagine driving one with an automatic.
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This automatic dual clutch dct in the c8 is what is being offered.
just as people swore in past reveals all those who say they will never buy the next generation corvette because of xyz always come around.
this too shall pass for many and they will when the time comes buy a c8.
jmo
just as people swore in past reveals all those who say they will never buy the next generation corvette because of xyz always come around.
this too shall pass for many and they will when the time comes buy a c8.
jmo
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Do they pay you to start the comical auto vs manual, just to drive up posting traffic? You can not be that bored.
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What will I do?
Drive it baby!
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Drive it baby!
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I’m living proof that the styling of the C7 (yes, including the tail light design) absolutely prevented me from ever wanting to upgrade, and sadly, if you go back to posts from 2013, you will see that I was one of the most anxious people around here for the C7 launch (even putting together a mid-rear engine mock up at one point way back then, hoping for a potential mid-engine C7).
I can tell you now, the lack of a proper manual - one that allows me, the operator, to control clutch plate pressure, real-time as I drive, which is looking probable at this point, will definitely exclude me from the C8 as well.... I will not be “coming around”...
But, I also know that I am but one person, so I am just one of those folks who GM is obviously not targeting as a customer anymore, so be it.
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