The side scoop handle is not that big on the door...
#1
Melting Slicks
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The side scoop handle is not that big on the door...
I wish someone would put together a more accurate render... we know the side scoops are furher back, and the reason the lid is so tall in the back is because there is a scoop/exhaust vents that are being concealed...
the giant triangle on the door handle bugs me big time. Guys, its going to be an inch or 2 in depth that you can reach under with your finger tips and pull the door open with a button up underneath... not a giant 6 inch floppy triangle sticking out of the door to kill the car next to you in the parking lot.
Can we get some renders that are realistic please?
Another option i would like to mention, is maybe they will make the door completely clean, and the button to cause the door to open is up underneath the vent just behind the door seam, and that is why they needed the patent for the motorized door, is because the door will have to open out slightly on its own so that we can open it the rest of the way with our hand.
They could be doing this for window/sealant purposes, it gives the car a chance to roll down the window a couple inches before the door begins to open. This would make for a quieter ride as the seal at the top of the side windows can be designed slightly differently.
All i know is.. there is no way there is a giant floppy triangle on the door, it would break off in a week.
the giant triangle on the door handle bugs me big time. Guys, its going to be an inch or 2 in depth that you can reach under with your finger tips and pull the door open with a button up underneath... not a giant 6 inch floppy triangle sticking out of the door to kill the car next to you in the parking lot.
Can we get some renders that are realistic please?
Another option i would like to mention, is maybe they will make the door completely clean, and the button to cause the door to open is up underneath the vent just behind the door seam, and that is why they needed the patent for the motorized door, is because the door will have to open out slightly on its own so that we can open it the rest of the way with our hand.
They could be doing this for window/sealant purposes, it gives the car a chance to roll down the window a couple inches before the door begins to open. This would make for a quieter ride as the seal at the top of the side windows can be designed slightly differently.
All i know is.. there is no way there is a giant floppy triangle on the door, it would break off in a week.
Last edited by Mikec7z; 04-02-2019 at 11:26 PM.
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John T (04-02-2019)
#2
IMO, not as long as the most talented artist showing renderings is so in love with his design. Further IMO he's incredibly good at the false modesty routine. When the real cars show he'll have a thousand very humble sounding "reasons" for sticking with that design.
#3
Safety Car
Yup, that other guy did a terrible job on the Camaro and Mustang renders. I just don't get putting this on anybody doing a render based on what the company offers in camo cars. They do the best they can to make a render based off of the information provided. If the manufacturer is providing false or misleading info then the render will be just that good. So how would a render based on no provided information be more accurate or realistic? At that point its just guess work, not guided guess work which is what he has done in the past. Also, somebody pointed out they can only go so far back with the scoop giver the CAD drawings, assuming they are real , and making sure to cover up the duct work inside.
All that being said, some parts of the render will be off and I'm not in love with the very area you bring up. I do believe it will be cleaner and not nearly as bulky, at least I hope that's the case!
PC
All that being said, some parts of the render will be off and I'm not in love with the very area you bring up. I do believe it will be cleaner and not nearly as bulky, at least I hope that's the case!
PC
#4
Melting Slicks
Mike, thanks for giving the forum your variations of the the side scoop. Very entertaining and possibly more accurate than what we have seen so far. It is a thankless job, very time consuming and you will assuredly get grief for your "adjustments". Chazcron's side scoop has actually ruined my sleep on a few nights, especially grusome with Elegant singing Chaz's praises every twenty two seconds. I know I sound silly but I really wouldn't bet against GM being behind this very talented fellow (and his agent) creating his three dimensional smoke screen.
#5
I just don't get why we need such a huge side scoop at all.
This is a naturally aspirated 6.2L V8. McLaren has a very small intake near the bottom of the car in front of the rear wheel on the 720S. In darker colors you literally don't even notice it. That car has a Twin Turbo V8 with 710 HP. The Huracan has a small scoop as well. Sure, for the forced induction C8s, there will definitely need to be a bigger intake. But for the base Stingray, I just do not see the need for such a big scoop. This is the first time since the original Corvette that we are having a revolutionary instead of evolutionary new Corvette. It should have nice clean simple lines. They shouldn't be interrupted by a massive side scoop.
This is a naturally aspirated 6.2L V8. McLaren has a very small intake near the bottom of the car in front of the rear wheel on the 720S. In darker colors you literally don't even notice it. That car has a Twin Turbo V8 with 710 HP. The Huracan has a small scoop as well. Sure, for the forced induction C8s, there will definitely need to be a bigger intake. But for the base Stingray, I just do not see the need for such a big scoop. This is the first time since the original Corvette that we are having a revolutionary instead of evolutionary new Corvette. It should have nice clean simple lines. They shouldn't be interrupted by a massive side scoop.
#6
Race Director
Time will tell if GM hired idiots or artists.
Of the three above, I like the third one best.
Of the three above, I like the third one best.
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#8
I still think this is our best look at the scoop. Before they put that fake panel on, the only thing that was stopping us from seeing the scoop was this heavy tarp. As you can see it kind of represents the C1 front wheel cove and the intakes from the prototype GM ME Vettes.
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#9
Safety Car
PC
Quick add on, as to the size of the scoop, they will be addressing more models than just the base car which will have higher outputs to be sure.
Last edited by Darion; 04-02-2019 at 05:49 PM.
#10
Yeah, I haven't seen any in person yet but the High Country has REALLY grown on me. The lower trim levels.... not so much.
#11
Safety Car
I will say, the fact that GM uses that photo in the promotion of the truck is tragic!! lol. I wouldn't go look at it just based off of that photo, poor decision on their part IMO, which actually brings us back around to your comment. HA!
Last edited by Darion; 04-02-2019 at 06:05 PM.
#12
I just don't get why we need such a huge side scoop at all.
This is a naturally aspirated 6.2L V8. McLaren has a very small intake near the bottom of the car in front of the rear wheel on the 720S. In darker colors you literally don't even notice it. That car has a Twin Turbo V8 with 710 HP. The Huracan has a small scoop as well. Sure, for the forced induction C8s, there will definitely need to be a bigger intake. But for the base Stingray, I just do not see the need for such a big scoop. This is the first time since the original Corvette that we are having a revolutionary instead of evolutionary new Corvette. It should have nice clean simple lines. They shouldn't be interrupted by a massive side scoop.
This is a naturally aspirated 6.2L V8. McLaren has a very small intake near the bottom of the car in front of the rear wheel on the 720S. In darker colors you literally don't even notice it. That car has a Twin Turbo V8 with 710 HP. The Huracan has a small scoop as well. Sure, for the forced induction C8s, there will definitely need to be a bigger intake. But for the base Stingray, I just do not see the need for such a big scoop. This is the first time since the original Corvette that we are having a revolutionary instead of evolutionary new Corvette. It should have nice clean simple lines. They shouldn't be interrupted by a massive side scoop.
#13
Le Mans Master
If the above picture is accurate of the C8 man not touching it with a ten foot pole, but to be honest need to see first hand. Already April is there going to be a 2020 C7????
#14
McLarens actually have quite large side intakes. Both the 570 and 720. They just use more advanced aero to feed them so they can hide them a little better. The door on the 720 is basically hollow and feeds into the huge intake in the quarter panel. They basically conceal the scoop by making the door have an inner and outer layer than are about 4-6inches apart. Even the 570 has a big side intake that you don't really see unless you look for it.
#15
Safety Car
I'm thinking the General is looking to reduce costs across the line having a more singular approach to the body and cooling underneath. At this point even Porsche is working with a single widebody for the line up. I'm sure both will have some differentiating looks between models but the foundation will be the same. They are talking about 1000hp variant, say motor makes 800hp with turbos and electric makes up the other 200hp (Just a guess here), that's a lot of engine heat to manage. I would say that nobody wants to have some of the "reported" cooling issues of say the C7 Z06. Not looking to start a war hear about an actual issue but some owners certainty chirped about over heating. They have to get this right on so many level, don't forget the golf clubs, just wonder if they pull it off.
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#19
Melting Slicks
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i doubt the car will look like any of the scoops i used, but i believe the handle will be thin, as shown in my photos, vs all these renders with the crazy triangles...
unless GM wants us to go through door panels like we do their cast aluminum rims, and they are looking at huge recurring income from people who screw up their huge triangle. I doubt they stoop this low, so i think the door handle will be more slim and sleek and the vent will be further backward.
unless GM wants us to go through door panels like we do their cast aluminum rims, and they are looking at huge recurring income from people who screw up their huge triangle. I doubt they stoop this low, so i think the door handle will be more slim and sleek and the vent will be further backward.
Last edited by Mikec7z; 04-02-2019 at 08:21 PM.
#20
The Aventador LP700-4. One of my favorite cars ever. One of the most timeless designs of all time. Almost 10 years old and still looks brand new. I don't hate big side scoops, but they have to be done right. The Aventador does them right. They look great on there.
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