Will the C8 have autonomous features?
06-04-2019, 03:43 PM
#42
It's coming! - "GM has been on a tear and has gone to great lengths of spending ($2 billion annually) to lead the charge in autonomous vehicle technology, via Cruise Automation. These cybersecurity measures largely reflect this effort."
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06-04-2019, 08:07 PM
#43
Melting Slicks
Collision mitigation braking will be de facto mandatory in a few years, I'd be shocked if they don't have it standard from release. If you have that, you generally have the hardware for adaptive cruise and lane departure, so count them in. They're already not pricey options on much more basic vehicles.
Beyond that, I'd expect super cruise and park assist as options on higher trim. And don't worry, weve got more cool autonomous stuff in the works to PO the purists
Beyond that, I'd expect super cruise and park assist as options on higher trim. And don't worry, weve got more cool autonomous stuff in the works to PO the purists
06-04-2019, 08:09 PM
#44
Melting Slicks
OEMs decided to self impose a deadline instead of having the government mandate them, its coming as standard.
And just like ABS, if you're a good driver who doesn't need the system, it'll never activate anyhow...
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06-04-2019, 10:04 PM
#46
I would think advanced emergency braking or AEB to be included. Heck, if a Honda Civic has it in it's base vehicle, I would certainly expect to have it in a Corvette. Like someone stated earlier, it's a plus for insurance companies. Adaptive cruise would be nice, I suspect that'll be standard as well.
06-04-2019, 10:41 PM
#47
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Here's a December 2017 interview with Tadge Juechter on autonomous features on Corvette:
“The whole purpose of the Corvette is to enjoy driving it,” said Juechter. “So, (Corvette) will probably be the last to adopt the autonomous technologies. In fact, we don’t even have adaptive cruise on the car… we try to lean down the content to just what’s necessary for driving, and we expect the person driving it to want to drive it. So between that, and adding all of the additional content (for adaptive cruise)… it requires the sensors to be in front end, which can block airflow. We don’t have a lot of spare airflow, so all of these choices come down to a balance of attributes across the whole car.”
While the architecture of the 2019 Corvette ZR1 may not allow for an adaptive cruise system, let alone something farther down the spectrum of human driving omission, the Corvette program could still have a future role to play in utilizing some autonomous hardware.
“There could someday be use for some of these autonomous features. One of my favorite is a ‘track learn’… a setting where you could dial an assistance, like a driving instructor in the passenger seat,” Juechter continued. “If you’re driving off the line, they’ll reach over to the wheel and tug you back… I can imagine using some of these features as a track learn. Everything from giving you a nudge when you’re not in the right place, to a hands-off, show-me-the-line as fast as the car will go. And you just ride and watch… and slowly take off the training wheels… I can imagine an adaptation of that kind of technology.”
To summarize, Jeuchter appears to theorize that autonomous hardware/software that is smart enough to quickly navigate around a race track could make for even better human skills, via a type of adjustable human-machine high performance driving education system. Where eventually, the human driver wouldn’t need the adjustments of the machine to enjoy their Corvette at its maximum limit.
“But we’re not going to be first to market in that.”
While the architecture of the 2019 Corvette ZR1 may not allow for an adaptive cruise system, let alone something farther down the spectrum of human driving omission, the Corvette program could still have a future role to play in utilizing some autonomous hardware.
“There could someday be use for some of these autonomous features. One of my favorite is a ‘track learn’… a setting where you could dial an assistance, like a driving instructor in the passenger seat,” Juechter continued. “If you’re driving off the line, they’ll reach over to the wheel and tug you back… I can imagine using some of these features as a track learn. Everything from giving you a nudge when you’re not in the right place, to a hands-off, show-me-the-line as fast as the car will go. And you just ride and watch… and slowly take off the training wheels… I can imagine an adaptation of that kind of technology.”
To summarize, Jeuchter appears to theorize that autonomous hardware/software that is smart enough to quickly navigate around a race track could make for even better human skills, via a type of adjustable human-machine high performance driving education system. Where eventually, the human driver wouldn’t need the adjustments of the machine to enjoy their Corvette at its maximum limit.
“But we’re not going to be first to market in that.”
06-04-2019, 10:45 PM
#48
Was test driving a Porsche Macan and driving fast on the highway coming up on a slow car and passing a car on my left. Got closer to the slow car in front than the car liked and it slammed on the brakes just as Inwas getting ready to move over to the left in front of the car I was passing. Nothing was extreme or reckless, but the car jamming the brakes caused me to almost not make the gap and hit the car to my left. I've been racing cars a long time... I want that stuff off.
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06-05-2019, 01:19 AM
#49
I rented a caddy suv last weekend which maintained its lane in the hiway. It was kind of cool, but seemed crude-bounced from lane marker to lane marker, enough to get pulled over if the popo was watching. Maybe there was a setting I needed to at with to tighten that up. I couldn’t get the cruise to be adaptive. It was dark and I didn’t get too much seat time. Anyway if the Vette has that lane departure I suppose it’s good for drowsy driving but I wouldn’t really call it ‘super’.
06-05-2019, 09:19 AM
#50
Melting Slicks
Was test driving a Porsche Macan and driving fast on the highway coming up on a slow car and passing a car on my left. Got closer to the slow car in front than the car liked and it slammed on the brakes just as Inwas getting ready to move over to the left in front of the car I was passing. Nothing was extreme or reckless, but the car jamming the brakes caused me to almost not make the gap and hit the car to my left. I've been racing cars a long time... I want that stuff off.
And as one who has worked on the driver assist stuff, if it activated, you were probably shooting the gap a bit too close for public road driving, regardless of your racing background or perceived risk. If anything, they are generally tuned to be conservative in their activation, unintended activation are considered more unsafe than not decelerating fast enough.
But, like airbags, pretension seatbelts, rear view cameras, ABS, traction, stability, you're getting it whether you want it or not. Enjoy your cars before the driver monitoring systems become mandatory
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06-07-2019, 08:12 PM
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06-07-2019, 10:22 PM
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06-08-2019, 02:27 AM
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I hope the c8 have all technology they can squeeze in it.
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06-19-2019, 04:11 PM
#59
and has built some of the prototypes. Not everyone is allowed to build the initial models. I cant list his name for obvious reasons.
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