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Old 07-09-2019, 12:42 PM
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If it comes out in the $60Ks the ZL1 Camaro is finished.
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Why does Ford's GT cost a half million dollars? It has an ecoboost v6 (literally)..
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Why does Ford's GT cost a half million dollars? It has an ecoboost v6 (literally)..
two reasons...

1. it costs 100s of millions in todays market to bring a car to market. when you only sell a couple thousand it forces a much higher msrp to stay out of the red

2. because they can.
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Old 07-09-2019, 04:19 PM
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It will be between $59-64K IMHO. $80K for a base Corvette? Umm, no.
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Old 07-09-2019, 04:23 PM
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The base MSRP jump from 1982 to 1985 was 36%. I am skipping 1984 because it is a one year car that didn't come with the engine that was actually designed for the C4. That is a huge jump. Maybe the C8 will carryover the LT1 and the cost will stay down for 2020 and when they release the 2021 or 2022 year model it will have the actual engine designed for the chassis. I could see that happening just like it did back in the 80s. However, I still don't think they can offer up C6 Z06 peformance at a $10k-$15k discount in completely redesigned platform. Like I said in the other thread, I think it will be upper 70Ks to low 80Ks but I wouldn't be one bit surprised if it comes in at or near $100K. I don't think GM is as concerned about satisfying the cheap *** types with a bargain entry level C8. They are way more concerned about changing the platform into something that can trounce the supercars at 1/3 - 1/2 the price.
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Old 07-09-2019, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by OH THREE Z View Post
two reasons...

1. it costs 100s of millions in todays market to bring a car to market. when you only sell a couple thousand it forces a much higher msrp to stay out of the red

2. because they can.

uhm..

I guess we will see on the 18th..
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Old 07-09-2019, 04:39 PM
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Why does Ford's GT cost a half million dollars? It has an ecoboost v6 (literally)..
If you have to ask that question, you have no Fíin clue.
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Originally Posted by ViperFan1 View Post
Why does Ford's GT cost a half million dollars? It has an ecoboost v6 (literally)..
ultra limited production quantities, "exotic" materials (e.g. carbon fiber monocoque chasis), EXTREMELY high cost to engineer, test, and certify for a single platform single model LOW production vehicle, built in demand... As you have been told over and over again...the C8 ME car will be a mass produced much higher quantity vehicle with drastically lower costs per vehicle. Like it or not, you are wrong about the price point of the base model C8.
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Old 07-09-2019, 05:20 PM
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I feel fairly strongly that even those initial sales will probably break records just because of the hype, this will be the last of the corvette no matter what the price point. Chevrolet had a strong niche market with a unique product and I personally think (at least for me) that they missed the mark.

The C5 z06 was an amazing car and was not significantly more expensive than a base coupe. It was simple to maintain and modify. Now weíre into $80k z06ís and $100k zr1ís that require dedicated technicians. Iím not sure who really wants to get the same service department in their $100k car that the Sonic gets but itís not me.

Cars have gotten exorbitantly expensive for performance 99% of us canít use anyway. Besides that the computer retards power most of the time anyway....which is another good reason not to offer a manual.

Take the lowly Miata, it still sells well. Itís not terribly sophisticated and itís slow, but it does what miatas have always done. Itís fun, engaging, and inexpensive. The corvette was at one point as well.
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Old 07-09-2019, 06:39 PM
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Hyundai's approach to this issue was to have their people pickup cars from Equus owners when service was needed, and drop them off again. They didn't want Equus owners driving into a Hyundai dealership service area and see a bunch of Sonata's, etc....

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....Iím not sure who really wants to get the same service department in their $100k car that the Sonic gets but itís not me..
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Do you really want a dealership rep driving your car around town......
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I think 69,999. Keeps it under $70k. Loaded up will hit $80 like the current MSRP of the current grand sport.
This is an expensive engineering project and the general needs to recover costs ASAP.
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Originally Posted by Krusty84 View Post
. I don't think GM is as concerned about satisfying the cheap *** types with a bargain entry level C8. They are way more concerned about changing the platform into something that can trounce the supercars at 1/3 - 1/2 the price.
Don't you think that is the job of the high performance version and not the base model Corvette? Cheap *** has nothing to do with good biz sense for a large corporation making cars, trucks, etc.
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Originally Posted by 68roadster View Post
Don't you think that is the job of the high performance version and not the base model Corvette? Cheap *** has nothing to do with good biz sense for a large corporation making cars, trucks, etc.
No.
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Originally Posted by twistedgixxer View Post
I feel fairly strongly that even those initial sales will probably break records just because of the hype, this will be the last of the corvette no matter what the price point. Chevrolet had a strong niche market with a unique product and I personally think (at least for me) that they missed the mark.

The C5 z06 was an amazing car and was not significantly more expensive than a base coupe. It was simple to maintain and modify. Now we’re into $80k z06’s and $100k zr1’s that require dedicated technicians. I’m not sure who really wants to get the same service department in their $100k car that the Sonic gets but it’s not me.

Cars have gotten exorbitantly expensive for performance 99% of us can’t use anyway. Besides that the computer retards power most of the time anyway....which is another good reason not to offer a manual.


Take the lowly Miata, it still sells well. It’s not terribly sophisticated and it’s slow, but it does what miatas have always done. It’s fun, engaging, and inexpensive. The corvette was at one point as well.
MSRP started at about $48K for the 2001 C5 Z06. That is $71K in 2019 dollars. Of course, Corvettes have gotten more expensive, but not significantly in inflation-adjusted constant dollars.

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Old 07-10-2019, 10:25 AM
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GM wants to sell it. GM knows their "buyer base." The guys that buy the base, the Z51, the Z06, the ZR1 and the ones that trade-in for all of these. Plus, it is a forward looking "halo" car. This will be a big deal. They want them on the road. $62K base, $66K w/Z51 equivalent.
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Old 07-10-2019, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by tcinla View Post
Just wondering if anyone is holding on to that opinion.
With it looking like a Camaro it had better not be $80K for a base model.
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Originally Posted by pdiddy972 View Post
With it looking like a Camaro it had better not be $80K for a base model.
IMHO opinion those who think the C8 looks anything like a Camaro are totally screwy. The Camaro is a brick on wheels.The C8 will be a V8, American version of an exotic. It will be stunning despite all the Internet car designer rants.

MAGA.
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ultra limited production quantities, "exotic" materials (e.g. carbon fiber monocoque chasis), EXTREMELY high cost to engineer, test, and certify for a single platform single model LOW production vehicle, built in demand... As you have been told over and over again...the C8 ME car will be a mass produced much higher quantity vehicle with drastically lower costs per vehicle. Like it or not, you are wrong about the price point of the base model C8.
Why did Ford go through that and not make it a mass market car? Seems they could defray those costs over a much larger volume of cars and been able to sell it for much cheaper. I guess it's not worth the trouble because of the exotic materials?
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Originally Posted by pdiddy972 View Post
Why did Ford go through that and not make it a mass market car? Seems they could defray those costs over a much larger volume of cars and been able to sell it for much cheaper. I guess it's not worth the trouble because of the exotic materials?

It's a "halo car" like the previous Ford GT. They have never been intended to be a mass produced high volume model unlike the Corvette which is. Different business and marketing models entirely. Like comparing apples to watermelons.

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