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Old Jun 13, 2019 | 01:35 PM
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Multiple packages of ME will exist! $65k Base to $190k for the 1000hp Zora!
Fun times just hope look is a big winner!!!
"Price" and "interior room" will be key.

Price -- If there is truly a "base $65" ME, it won't be for long. A "$65k base", even if true, is just to alleviate any initial backlash against a huge base price jump from previous. Even at $65k base, it's a HUGE jump from C7. Expect mid-way through the 1st year to see a $3000-$4000 jump in MSRP. Not that it matters -- we will see VERY FEW C8's at that price, as all will be loaded with $10,000 of options and $10,000 of Dealer "Market Adjustment", because people absolutely will pay it to get in on the newest toy rush. Most C8's in the first year will go out the door at closer to $90,000.

Interior space: If the C8 has less interior space than C7 (as in "Driver space", not "luggage space"), it is an automatic "no sale" for me. I don't care so much about luggage space, but at 6 foot, I don't want to feel like I'm shoehorning myself into my 'fun' car.
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Old Jun 13, 2019 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Kent1999;1599576825[b
]"Price" and "interior room" will be key.[/b]

Price -- If there is truly a "base $65" ME, it won't be for long. A "$65k base", even if true, is just to alleviate any initial backlash against a huge base price jump from previous. Even at $65k base, it's a HUGE jump from C7. Expect mid-way through the 1st year to see a $3000-$4000 jump in MSRP. Not that it matters -- we will see VERY FEW C8's at that price, as all will be loaded with $10,000 of options and $10,000 of Dealer "Market Adjustment", because people absolutely will pay it to get in on the newest toy rush. Most C8's in the first year will go out the door at closer to $90,000.

Interior space: If the C8 has less interior space than C7 (as in "Driver space", not "luggage space"), it is an automatic "no sale" for me. I don't care so much about luggage space, but at 6 foot, I don't want to feel like I'm shoehorning myself into my 'fun' car.
Storage room is a big deal with me as we like to take long road trips in our Corvettes. As it is now our convertibles will hold just enough to get us on the road. Any less, and I expect we'll stay with our C7. However, I'll never say never.
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Old Jun 13, 2019 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Kent1999
"Price" and "interior room" will be key.


Interior space: If the C8 has less interior space than C7 (as in "Driver space", not "luggage space"), it is an automatic "no sale" for me. I don't care so much about luggage space, but at 6 foot, I don't want to feel like I'm shoehorning myself into my 'fun' car.
What I think is funny, if you've ever sat in a McLaren you better be real good friends with your passenger, because you will be by the time you get out. The interior space of a McLaren makes the corvette seem like a Rolls Royce...I guess when you spend that kind of money 'space' is not a priority....
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Old Jun 13, 2019 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Donatella
What I think is funny, if you've ever sat in a McLaren you better be real good friends with your passenger, because you will be by the time you get out. The interior space of a McLaren makes the corvette seem like a Rolls Royce...I guess when you spend that kind of money 'space' is not a priority....
Space (and mass) is an enemy of performance. It's why jet fighter pilots aren't super tall or heavy.
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Old Jun 13, 2019 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Kent1999
"Price" and "interior room" will be key.

Price -- If there is truly a "base $65" ME, it won't be for long. A "$65k base", even if true, is just to alleviate any initial backlash against a huge base price jump from previous. Even at $65k base, it's a HUGE jump from C7. Expect mid-way through the 1st year to see a $3000-$4000 jump in MSRP. Not that it matters -- we will see VERY FEW C8's at that price, as all will be loaded with $10,000 of options and $10,000 of Dealer "Market Adjustment", because people absolutely will pay it to get in on the newest toy rush. Most C8's in the first year will go out the door at closer to $90,000.

Interior space: If the C8 has less interior space than C7 (as in "Driver space", not "luggage space"), it is an automatic "no sale" for me. I don't care so much about luggage space, but at 6 foot, I don't want to feel like I'm shoehorning myself into my 'fun' car.
A little birdie told me not to fret about fitting in the car (I'm 6'4"). Said the car will have more room than the C7.

Originally Posted by Rebel Yell
Storage room is a big deal with me as we like to take long road trips in our Corvettes. As it is now our convertibles will hold just enough to get us on the road. Any less, and I expect we'll stay with our C7. However, I'll never say never.
The C8 vert should have more room than the C7 if it has the frunk and a trunk behind the motor. I'd imagine the trunk behind the motor will be about what the C7 is now with the top down.
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Old Jun 13, 2019 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Donatella
What I think is funny, if you've ever sat in a McLaren you better be real good friends with your passenger, because you will be by the time you get out. The interior space of a McLaren makes the corvette seem like a Rolls Royce...I guess when you spend that kind of money 'space' is not a priority....
Quite the opposite for me. I only speak for myself of course, but I simply will not buy a street car in which I feel cramped. The more money I am spending, the better 'fit' I expect in the driver's seat. And at 'only' 6ft, I don't think I am asking too much of a production street car.

(notice I said 'street car'. Race cars or track-only toys you kind of expect some loss of comfort)

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Old Jun 13, 2019 | 02:53 PM
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[QUOTE=The C8 vert should have more room than the C7 if it has the frunk and a trunk behind the motor. I'd imagine the trunk behind the motor will be about what the C7 is now with the top down.[/QUOTE]

Just curious, in a C8 where does the top go when it's down/off?
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Old Jun 13, 2019 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Rebel Yell
Just curious, in a C8 where does the top go when it's down/off?
I'm thinking it will be very similar to a Ferrari 488.


Top starts at 37 seconds.

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Old Jun 13, 2019 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Tool Hoarder
I'm thinking it will be very similar to a Ferrari 488.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lghEqqVIo00

Top starts at 37 seconds.
Well that's quite interesting. Thanks TH.
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Old Jun 13, 2019 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Rebel Yell
Well that's quite interesting. Thanks TH.
I agree.. I can't wait until it messes up and I have to have a Chevy tech work on it

It jives with the vented cover you can see peaking through the camo on the pics I posted above.... i.e. the convertible won't have a visible engine, but the coupe will. We shall see in a month!
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Old Jun 13, 2019 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Kent1999
"Price" and "interior room" will be key.

Price -- If there is truly a "base $65" ME, it won't be for long. A "$65k base", even if true, is just to alleviate any initial backlash against a huge base price jump from previous. Even at $65k base, it's a HUGE jump from C7. Expect mid-way through the 1st year to see a $3000-$4000 jump in MSRP. Not that it matters -- we will see VERY FEW C8's at that price, as all will be loaded with $10,000 of options and $10,000 of Dealer "Market Adjustment", because people absolutely will pay it to get in on the newest toy rush. Most C8's in the first year will go out the door at closer to $90,000.

Interior space: If the C8 has less interior space than C7 (as in "Driver space", not "luggage space"), it is an automatic "no sale" for me. I don't care so much about luggage space, but at 6 foot, I don't want to feel like I'm shoehorning myself into my 'fun' car.
I'm guessing you haven't seen the multiple dealers that are offering spots at MSRP. There is no reason to pay any market adjustment when there are multiple dealers selling at MSRP.
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Old Jun 13, 2019 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Sub Driver
I'm guessing you haven't seen the multiple dealers that are offering spots at MSRP. There is no reason to pay any market adjustment when there are multiple dealers selling at MSRP.
So many are ignorant of this (I don't use the word rudely). I have two deposits in at MSRP. More than a few folks in our local club have approached me asking what the mark up will be and what I expect to pay over to get a 2020. I explain, $0... and it's news to them.

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Old Jun 13, 2019 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Sub Driver
I'm guessing you haven't seen the multiple dealers that are offering spots at MSRP. There is no reason to pay any market adjustment when there are multiple dealers selling at MSRP.
Sure there are. You are assuming everyone lives within driving distance of one the "MSRP" dealers.

There are multiple dealers here on the forum (mostly east coast based, as far as I know) selling C7 at hugely discounted rates, and yet, for various reasons, most Corvettes are still sold at local dealerships. Why? Shipping, tax breaks, financing restrictions, trade-in, just to name a few. A lot of us are in the western US, don't buy straight out, and some good finance companies don't allow a sale where the buyer isn't there in person (I've dealt with a few).

I'm about 99.9% sure dealers here in the southwest USA (CA, NV, etc) won't be selling ANY C8 at MSRP and will all be charging "Market Adjustment" fees in the thousands of dollars -- just like they did for the first THREE YEARS of C6 and C7 production.

So unless I'm willing to buy from thousands of miles away, pay $1000-$1500 shipping AND lose my trade-in tax break (another $3000 loss), local or semi-local is the only option. Even if I would buy from one of the east coast (C8's for MSRP!) dealers, I'm still paying about $5,000 over.

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Old Jun 13, 2019 | 11:16 PM
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More reasons to not live in CA.
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It will all come down to how receptive actual (prospective) buyers are. Just because it is new and different, doesn't "guarantee" that it will be an overwhelming success. That has yet to be seen. IMHO, the biggest risk GM is taking isn't coming out with a new model such as the C8, but completely dropping the front engine vette. As I said...we shall see.
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Originally Posted by HARVEY T.GLUCK
One observation which I guess is apparent --go to Corvette Rally and at 75 you are Young.. Go to a Porsche or Camaro Rally etc at 50 you are ancient. That's GM'S dilemma.....
Your original post and supporting facts are laughable!

Go to the Corvette Corral and Porsche Park at Road America during, say, an IMSA or Indy Car weekend, and report back your findings.

You are so off-base here.
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Old Jun 14, 2019 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Kent1999
5 years!??!

Wow --- me and most of the Corvette owners I know are going to have MUCH shorter than average lives --- according to those so called 'stats', we'll all be dead in our late 40's and 50's!!!

And here I was, foolishly planning on buying and driving Corvettes for another 25 years!

Go right ahead and plan on that "25 years." Hope you make it.

Ask an older person, "What makes your day?" When they say, "When my 2 feet hit the floor in the morning, that's the start of a good day."

They aren't kidding around, either.
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Go right ahead and plan on that "25 years." Hope you make it.

Ask an older person, "What makes your day?" When they say, "When my 2 feet hit the floor in the morning, that's the start of a good day."

They aren't kidding around, either.
My '67 was good for 28 years as pretty much a DD & commuter car. Can't see any reason why a C8 can't be a long term keeper. Have no issues with my two feet hitting the floor in the morning.

Closing in on 78.



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Originally Posted by Rebel Yell
Storage room is a big deal with me as we like to take long road trips in our Corvettes. As it is now our convertibles will hold just enough to get us on the road. Any less, and I expect we'll stay with our C7. However, I'll never say never.

Can you name this person?

"...…..owns 2 Corvettes, 1999 and 1990. He enjoys taking long road trips and has driven to 49 states and 10 provinces all in Corvettes"
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