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Old Aug 10, 2018 | 12:44 PM
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I don't want to get anyone in trouble, so I won't make the mistake of revealing my source, but I was told yesterday that there may be some frame problems that could push back the launch of the car. The information came from someone that was recently at the plant for work. I know better than to take anything as gospel, and am posting here only to see if anyone else has heard something similar? As someone who was first in line to buy the new NSX, but ultimately passed when the car finally launched because it took forever, I'm hoping something as significant as a frame issue doesn't derail the process. While I'm enjoying the break-in period of my new ZR1, I've had a deposit down since 2014 for the mid-engine car. A delay might require that I get my liver enzymes checked...again
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Old Aug 10, 2018 | 01:18 PM
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I heard there was a possible delay too. No specifics were mentioned.
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Old Aug 10, 2018 | 01:40 PM
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A "frame problem" can mean just about anything...from major to minor.
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Old Aug 10, 2018 | 02:16 PM
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Well, if there is an issue, much better to catch it now.
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Old Aug 10, 2018 | 03:21 PM
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If there's a "frame" problem, I would doubt they're out testing the full on race car prototype as the ALMS rules require that the race car share chassis with the road car.
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Old Aug 10, 2018 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmyb
If there's a "frame" problem, I would doubt they're out testing the full on race car prototype as the ALMS rules require that the race car share chassis with the road car.
I understand your point, but it's IMSA not ALMS, and before changing to the M8 in GTLM, which road car was the BMW Z4 GTE based on lol? The fact is they were allowed to race a hardtop Z4 coupe (with a different frame) despite not even selling a hardtop Z4 coupe, and never offering the Z4 with the M3's V8. In the case of Corvette, the C7.R and Z06 share a "production based frame." In early testing, it's hard to say what frame may be in a prototype race car. As previously stated, even if there was/is a "problem" it could be something really simple, something complex, and/or having more to do with the production process than performance.

Again, I don't disagree with the premise of your point, and admittedly the rumors about frame issues may be anywhere between bogus and legit. Obviously, I'm hoping it's the former and not the latter.
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Old Aug 10, 2018 | 06:10 PM
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They had an issue with the C5 frame when they first developed it. It was too stiff in side impact crashes and they actually had to weaken it a bit to pass the crash test.

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Old Aug 10, 2018 | 07:08 PM
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Hopefully it’s miss information but I could see this being the first high performance ME, they will run into some challenges. Remember the Z06 roof flying off, I definitely want as much sorted out before I receive mine. The 1st gen R8 had a frame issue Audi never admitted to the problem and only a few R8 owners reported the issue. My R8 was good never had any problems. If you had the problem car was considered un-fixable by insurances.

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I would venture to guess that, if true, this is only one of many issues that are revealing themselves to GM. Something as big and as important as the frame can certainly delay the production start, but my thinking it has to be a major frame issue this far out. GM wouldn't be worried or there wouldn't be talk if it was something simple(again, assuming post is true).
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Old Aug 10, 2018 | 09:04 PM
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GM thoroughly tests things in ways small manufacturers can not. It should be seen as an advantage when they can, through extensive testing, suss out rare problems.
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Old Aug 10, 2018 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Glenn Quagmire
I've had a deposit down since 2014 for the mid-engine car.
Really? With who? And for what? GM hasn't announced the ME car yet, and certainly wasn't any closer four years ago.
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Old Aug 10, 2018 | 10:57 PM
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^^^ Lots of people have put money down on this "myth". My Hendrick dealership has 10 deposits for the mid-engine car.
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Old Aug 10, 2018 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Steven Bell
^^^ Lots of people have put money down on this "myth". My Hendrick dealership has 10 deposits for the mid-engine car.
I have had my deposit down sense January of 2016 the same day I took delivery of my Callaway SC757 I put down a refundable deposit to be 1st in line for the mid engine Corvette.

If you follow Corvette team closely while they will never discuss future product they also have not denied the C8 midengine.

Some fact that we know are true and direct from GM was the C7 was to be rear mid engine and only the financial crisis stopped the C7 from being a rear mid engine .

Team Corvette requested a $1 billion dollar R&D budget for the C7 and GM came back and gave then $250 million R&D budget for the C7.

There for that had no choice but to do an evaluation of C6 rather than a revolutionary design like we will see with the C8.
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I can’t quite understand why a deposit is required?
Isn't telling those big box dealerships that you’ll take their first or whatever allocation they have sufficient?

The deposit can only be taken when the dealerships can actually place an order.
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I have had my ME desposit down (a $1,000 check) since Feb. 1, 2015.

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Old Aug 11, 2018 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by elegant
I have had my ME desposit down (a $1,000 check) since Feb. 1, 2015.
You've had a deposit in place for whatever the next Corvette is....Did you specify that your deposit only applies to an ME Corvette? Methinks not, since GM hasn't announced it. You've had a place in line for the 'next Corvette' for three-and-a-half years.
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Old Aug 11, 2018 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by gbranham
You've had a deposit in place for whatever the next Corvette is....Did you specify that your deposit only applies to an ME Corvette? Methinks not, since GM hasn't announced it. You've had a place in line for the 'next Corvette' for three-and-a-half years.
Yep, that’s exactly how it works.
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Old Aug 11, 2018 | 09:12 PM
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I guess I've been lucky with my dealer. I am first on the waiting list - my deposit is my word and a handshake, same as the C7 Z06.
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Old Aug 11, 2018 | 09:19 PM
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Rumors are designed to create havoc...

i wouldnt sweat the rumor..

the vehicle will show up at the detroit auto show this january

the frame will be fine..
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Old Aug 11, 2018 | 11:38 PM
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With whatever problem it is they've got over half a year until they even would need to have a model car to have on a stage, and we're over a year out from production, correct? I wouldn't worry in the slightest. Still in development, they are going to find tons of problems and things that need to be fixed and redesigned etc
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