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Old Aug 2, 2019 | 02:43 PM
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Next to where it says "Top Speed" in the chart it says "190 MPH (est)". Which means they pulled a number out of their ***. No new info. Useless article.
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I predict 203 MPh top speed in the z51 C8!!!
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Old Aug 2, 2019 | 03:24 PM
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Wait, why are we supposed to be excited about an article from Top Speed? I didn't see anything new in there.
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I predict 203 MPh top speed in the z51 C8!!!
Doubt it. The C7 Z06 and does 200. The C8 Stingray will suffer from the same problem the C7 GS & Stingray do. When you're up at those speeds, the air is very thick and heavy.The naturally aspirated engines run out of the juice needed to propel the car through the heavy air at those high speeds.
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Doubt it. The C7 Z06 and does 200. The C8 Stingray will suffer from the same problem the C7 GS & Stingray do. When you're up at those speeds, the air is very thick and heavy.The naturally aspirated engines run out of the juice needed to propel the car through the heavy air at those high speeds.

Kindly explain why my C6 Z06 with 505 naturally aspirated horsepower will do 198 MPH and the C6 ZR1 with 638 forced induction horsepower only hits 205 MPH.
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Old Aug 2, 2019 | 03:34 PM
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Kindly explain why my C6 Z06 with 505 naturally aspirated horsepower will do 198 MPH and the C6 ZR1 with 638 forced induction horsepower only hits 205 MPH.
Because C6s are much lighter than C7s and C8s. It's simple physics
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Originally Posted by Zora_Vette
Because C6s are much lighter than C7s and C8s. It's simple physics

Your reading comprehension is as bad as your understanding of physics.

Both the C6 Z06 and the C6 ZR1 are neither a C7 or a C8.
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
Your reading comprehension is as bad as your understanding of physics.

Both the C6 Z06 and the C6 ZR1 are neither a C7 or a C8.
The C6 ZR1 is heavier than the C6 Z06, no?
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Originally Posted by Zora_Vette
Doubt it. The C7 Z06 and does 200. The C8 Stingray will suffer from the same problem the C7 GS & Stingray do. When you're up at those speeds, the air is very thick and heavy.The naturally aspirated engines run out of the juice needed to propel the car through the heavy air at those high speeds.
Air density increases with speed? I think you mean parasitic drag.
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Originally Posted by Zora_Vette
Doubt it. The C7 Z06 and does 200. The C8 Stingray will suffer from the same problem the C7 GS & Stingray do. When you're up at those speeds, the air is very thick and heavy.The naturally aspirated engines run out of the juice needed to propel the car through the heavy air at those high speeds.
The air doesn't get any thicker or heavier unless you're up near the speed of sound (compressibility).
But aerodynamic drag is not linear, so going twice as fast requires a lot more than twice as much power.
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http://www.wallaceracing.com/Calcula...or%20Speed.php

Ignoring gearing, if we use a Cd of 0.325 (previously reported for the test mules so let's bump that up to 0.35), a weight of 3750 with driver, a frontal area of 23 ft^3, it's certainly possible that they could achieve close to 200 mph. They need 400 HP to hit 190 MPH with these parameters and 465 PH to hit 200 MPH. HP is at the wheels. I think 195 is doable but it will probably not hit 200. Lots of uncertain variables like how efficient the DCT is and what is the final Cd and frontal area. I think we can be most confident in the weight. I may be overestimating weight by 50 lbs but we are in the ballpark.

Inputting numbers more reflective of the C6 Z06 - Cd 0.34, Frontal Area 22.3, Weight 3450, 198-199 MPH falls right in line with that that car was dynoing (on realistic dynos) which was around 440 RWHP.
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Originally Posted by Zora_Vette
Next to where it says "Top Speed" in the chart it says "190 MPH (est)". Which means they pulled a number out of their ***. No new info. Useless article.
Thank you Zora, see yo've been in on here 7 months, appreciate your input

Thats whats stupid about this place.

You guys sit around ready to jump anyone

No need to reply back
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The factors affecting the calculation of drag include air density, surface area, coefficient of drag, and half the velocity squared. The C8 is a little wider? So that is going to increase drag in direct proportion to the increase in area. I don't think we know what the coefficient of drag is yet, so that's an unknown for the time being. I think it'll be pretty close to the current C7. I would say it should be close to the C7 in top speed.
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OMG the bit about the US regulations of the lane change blinkers is hilarious! What don't we regulate today?
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OMG the bit about the US regulations of the lane change blinkers is hilarious! What don't we regulate today?
Thank god in "Merica, stupidity is protected by the constitution.
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
Kindly explain why my C6 Z06 with 505 naturally aspirated horsepower will do 198 MPH and the C6 ZR1 with 638 forced induction horsepower only hits 205 MPH.
Aerodynamic downforce creates drag.

That and top speed is limited by cube-root( power ).

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Originally Posted by bob53
http://www.wallaceracing.com/Calcula...or%20Speed.php

Ignoring gearing, if we use a Cd of 0.325 (previously reported for the test mules so let's bump that up to 0.35), a weight of 3750 with driver, a frontal area of 23 ft^3, it's certainly possible that they could achieve close to 200 mph. They need 400 HP to hit 190 MPH with these parameters and 465 PH to hit 200 MPH. HP is at the wheels. I think 195 is doable but it will probably not hit 200. Lots of uncertain variables like how efficient the DCT is and what is the final Cd and frontal area. I think we can be most confident in the weight. I may be overestimating weight by 50 lbs but we are in the ballpark.

Inputting numbers more reflective of the C6 Z06 - Cd 0.34, Frontal Area 22.3, Weight 3450, 198-199 MPH falls right in line with that that car was dynoing (on realistic dynos) which was around 440 RWHP.
Can we assume the coefficient of drag at 0.325 is without either wing? The added downforce comes at the cost of increased drag. With only a 5 hp difference, the base model probably has a higher top speed than the Z51 due to wing drag.

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My guess :

No wing 190
Mid wing 182
Big wing 178

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