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Old Aug 3, 2019 | 08:51 PM
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Would any of you guys consider buying a semi-stripped down track version of the car? I, for one, would love to see something like you get with the gt2rs/gt3rs but less luxurious, more cup car. Think no A/C, no radio, minimal interior, roll cage, factory forged wheels (granted would probably still be not as nice of forgeline, etc...), unique styling, aggressive aero. Basically a track pack. Something between the normal car and a "cup" car. I'd be all aboard something like that. Maybe they'd never sell enough to justify, but I think it'd be awesome.
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The real question is: WOuld a track pack car cost more than just buying a std car and then gutting everything that was not needed for the track ?

My guess, based on the sales volume, is that buying a std car, gutting it yourself, welding in a roll cage, will be cheaper for both those without excess garage space, and for those with a small team to do the work.
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Old Aug 3, 2019 | 09:03 PM
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I'm with you. I think I have a pipe dream where you could truly buy an out of the box track car and maybe save some money.
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Originally Posted by Car416
I have a pipe dream
keep smokin'
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I will do that in 5 yrs time. Buy the base C8, strip and gut it to the bone. Then put a proper flat crank V10 in it
it takes some good contacts at BG but see if you can buy a "body in white"

it's a stripped down chassis that you build on and will save the $$ of buying what you don't need and taking it off the car

lots of lard in the old gal already adding lightness will be expensive
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Old Aug 4, 2019 | 08:26 AM
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The market is very small for this. There's too many cars and coffee people who want theit 3LT and complain about harsh ride and road noise. I am not one of them.
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Old Aug 4, 2019 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by MitchAlsup
The real question is: WOuld a track pack car cost more than just buying a std car and then gutting everything that was not needed for the track ?
This.

For some odd reason, most of the auto manufacturers see stripper versions as “special edition” cars, and often end up with higher price tags, unfortunately.

(I guess some of that higher cost might be attributable to having to alter production lines to produce something different, but still doesn’t seem right...)
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didn't Dodge do this with the Demon ? the c5 frc was going to be a striped down deal
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The last time Corvette did this was for the C5 fixed roof coupe,and it actually was cheaper than the base coupe. Then years later that eventually served as the platform for C5 Z06s.

Making a lightweight model like this for the C8 would also boost the lap times for GM bragging rights purposes, and that type of marketing is priceless (helps sell ALL Corvette models not just the lightweight version)- look at what the RS models have done for all 911 sales.

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Originally Posted by Rkreigh
it takes some good contacts at BG but see if you can buy a "body in white"

it's a stripped down chassis that you build on and will save the $$ of buying what you don't need and taking it off the car

lots of lard in the old gal already adding lightness will be expensive
Actually building a car from a "body in white" is more expensive.

First you need a donor car for all of the expensive trim pieces.

Second a body in white build probably would not have a VIN so it would be a track car only.
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I'd love one, can't sell a car with a cage in it though in the US, thats why you have to aftermarket it in the US if you want a cage in your Porsche.

However, yes I would like one. Even if I had to install the cage myself.
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I don't think I'd want one but I've wondered why Chevy doesn't build a GT1/GT2 car and the leverage off this to make more streetable version like Porsche?

Call it them L-88 R and L-88 S models.

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I would be more interested in a strip down C8, Even with a cage , it would be along way from a
real track car. But it would be a good start.
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Be patient..... by next fall, there will be salvage title cars at Copart... a nice flood car will do the trick...
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I tried to do something like this way back in 2004 when I ordered my Z06. I tried to get radio/heater and a/c delete. They laughed at me and asked me if I thought it was still 1965. I did order my car as a "0" option car and maybe saved a couple of pounds. Therefore my vanity plate.
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Originally Posted by Car416
Would any of you guys consider buying a semi-stripped down track version of the car? I, for one, would love to see something like you get with the gt2rs/gt3rs but less luxurious, more cup car. Think no A/C, no radio, minimal interior, roll cage, factory forged wheels (granted would probably still be not as nice of forgeline, etc...), unique styling, aggressive aero. Basically a track pack. Something between the normal car and a "cup" car. I'd be all aboard something like that. Maybe they'd never sell enough to justify, but I think it'd be awesome.
Yes, and have said so on this board a number of times.
Indeed if they could delete lots of the “luxury” and “practical car” parts and then upgrade performance parts, then the cost might not even be too bad. There’s definitely a market for this.

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Start with a different car... like one that isn't 6" longer than the current LONG car... I bitched about cargo capacity but I would've kept my mouth shut if I knew they would make the car the size of a freighter to accommodate it..
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Originally Posted by BlackC6
I'd love one, can't sell a car with a cage in it though in the US, thats why you have to aftermarket it in the US if you want a cage in your Porsche.

However, yes I would like one. Even if I had to install the cage myself.
Sure you can, it just can't have a streetable VIN. Ford does (did?) it regularly with the Mustang and Focus.

Now granted, the last Ford Performance Mustang with a factory cage sitting on a dealer floor (Grand Rapus MI sometime around 2013) was pushing six figures, so be prepared to pay.
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Sure you can, it just can't have a streetable VIN. Ford does (did?) it regularly with the Mustang and Focus.

Now granted, the last Ford Performance Mustang with a factory cage sitting on a dealer floor (Grand Rapus MI sometime around 2013) was pushing six figures, so be prepared to pay.
Never understood why a car cannot have an integral “cage” that fits behind normal interior trim, i.e. make the frame parts strong enough to be an SCCA approved cage—a true dual purpose car. Corvette frames beginning with the C5 look like they could gave been built that way as they have an integral roll hoop. Just tie the hoop to the windshield frame, run bars down and across the firewall and inro the trunk, You can always rip out trim to go wheel to wheel racing, but this integral cage would be great for track days, HPDEs and time trials.
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Originally Posted by quick04Z06
Never understood why a car cannot have an integral “cage” that fits behind normal interior trim, i.e. make the frame parts strong enough to be an SCCA approved cage—a true dual purpose car. Corvette frames beginning with the C5 look like they could gave been built that way as they have an integral roll hoop. Just tie the hoop to the windshield frame, run bars down and across the firewall and inro the trunk, You can always rip out trim to go wheel to wheel racing, but this integral cage would be great for track days, HPDEs and time trials.
My guess is weight and crash management. Crumple zones may not play nice with a proper racing cage. Also, the OEM would have to add weight to a car 99% of customers won't use in that manner. And for real racing the cage has to be inspected and accessible.
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