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As dealerships begin to enter 2020 Corvette Stingray orders, the following information can be helpful as you walk through the order process:
Anyone can have an order at 1100...and it can sit in a dealership's workbench indefinitely. I had that happen in the past with a local dealership. They told me they had a C7 allocation for me, but in reality had given it to someone else and were currently without any allocations. When I asked for updates, I got the runaround. I eventually asked them what event code my order was at, and when they told me it was still at 1100, I told them I knew they had lied to me and that they didn't have an allocation for my build yet. They did some begging and were ultimately granted an extra allocation.
Another thing to keep in mind is how constraints work. If your order contains an option that is currently under constraint, your order will sit around until the parts become available. You may have had the first order in at your dealership, but a constraint could cause many orders to move ahead of your order. If an option, like Rapid Blue, is not immediately available when production starts, be prepared to wait.
In my opinion, the first truly exciting day is when an order goes to 3300 and the excitement and anticipation continues to build from there until it hits the best event code of all, 6000!
Here are the various GM event codes and what they mean:
1000 Order On Hold at Dealership
1100 Order Placed at Dealership
1101 Order Entered into System
1102 Order Entered via Web
2000 Order Accepted by Chevrolet
2001 Order Generated to Dealer
2005 Order Replaced with GM Prospec Order
2030 Order Edited by Chevrolet
2050 Order Changed
2500 Order Preferenced (or “Picked Up” or “Imaged”), Sent to Production
3000 Order Accepted by Production Control
3100 Order Available to Sequence (now becomes more stable)
3300 Order Selected and Scheduled for Production by Assembly Plant (Target Production Week - TPW - usually available now)
3400 Order Broadcasted for Production (Internal Plant Order Produced)
3800 Vehicle Produced
4000 Vehicle Available to Ship
4104 Bailment Invoice Created
4B00 Bayed (“B”, not 8), Vehicle is waiting on transportation or pulled for quality control
4106 Bailment Released
4150 Vehicle Invoiced (Dealer Billed)
4200 Vehicle Shipped
4300 Intermediate Delivery
4V03 Estimated Delivery Date
4800 Rail Ramp Unload, vehicle at rail road destination awaiting truck transport to dealer
5000 Vehicle Delivered to Dealer
6000 Vehicle Delivered to Customer
9000 Order Cancelled
Additionally, here's a great article from CorvetteBlogger.com covering the entire order process: https://www.corvetteblogger.com/2019...-need-to-know/
This guest post was contributed by Kerbeck Corvette’s Dave Salvatore.
You are custom ordering a 2020 C8 Corvette and you think you’re ready to go. You’ve given your deposit to the dealer, you have selected all of your colors and options, and your dealer has entered the order and given you an order number. Now you just have to sit back and wait for the car to show up. Not quite…
Let’s talk about the entire order process and we’ll figure out if you’ve really got a car on the way.
Order Numbers
“The dealer gave me an order number and told me the order was accepted by GM so I must have a car on the way”. I’m afraid this isn’t true. Any Chevy dealer in the country has the ability to enter an order into the system. As the order moves through the build process, it goes through a series of “event codes” letting you know what is going on with your car. Those codes range from 1100 (Order Accepted by GM) to 6000 (Vehicle Delivered to Customer). Your order could currently be at 1100 and stay there until your dealer has an available allocation, if ever.
Consensus
Before we talk about allocation, let’s talk about consensus. Twice a month, usually on a Thursday, GM sends out to each dealer his 2-week consensus. This consensus shows every vehicle that GM makes, how many that dealer has in stock or inbound for each vehicle and how many GM thinks the dealer needs of each vehicle.
The dealer has a few days (till the following Monday) to study this and decide what he thinks he needs. The dealer has three choices for each vehicle. He can agree with GM and take what they suggested, he can decide he doesn’t need that many and take less (all the way down to zero) or he can decide he needs more and request a number higher than GM suggested.
Requesting more is not a guarantee of getting more. Also, when a car is new and/or hot (like the new Corvette) GM works with what is called a controlled allocation. That is a set number you will get during a designated period and you can not request more or less.
Allocation
Once the dealer and GM hash out how many cars they are going to get, the dealer then gets that amount over the next two weeks with his allocation. Allocations come out on Thursday, must be filled by Saturday and can be edited on Tuesday.
The weekly allocation tells the dealer how many cars he has to order that week and what (if any) constraints the dealer must work with.
So, if a dealer is allocated 5 cars that week and your order is somewhere in that 5 and you meet the constraints, your order is pulled and moved on to the next step (Event Code 2000) and NOW you’ve got a car on order!
Once your dealer is out of allocation, no more orders will be picked up even if you already have an order number. This is why it’s important to understand your dealer’s allocation situation before giving him your deposit.
Constraints
So, your dealer called. Your number is up, he has allocation and he’s ready to place your order. But you can’t get exactly what you want. Maybe the color you want has limited availability, or they are only building 15% of the cars with Z51 or any one of dozens of issues, but you can’t get the car the way you want.
This is called a constraint and it’s when GM is limiting the availability of a certain option. There are a number of reasons this could be happening but usually, it’s a supplier issue. But regardless of the reason, you can’t get the car the way you want. So, what do you do?
At this point, you really only have 3 options. First, change your order to match the constraints. Second, if the dealer is willing, ask the dealer to push your order back to the next allocation period and wait to see if the constraint is lifted. Last, you can cancel your order and try again somewhere else.
This is where it pays to deal with dealers who have a large allocation. Let’s say that Rapid Blue is on a 15% constraint. If your dealer is getting 1 or 2 cars allocated to him that week, there is a very little chance of getting one in the Rapid Blue. If the dealer has an allocation of 50 that week, he’ll probably be getting 7 or 8 blue cars. This becomes even more difficult when dealing with multiple constraints.
Also, if your dealer has limited allocation and you asked to be pushed back, you run the risk of never getting a car.
Order Tracking
Once your car makes it through the allocation and constraints, you hit event code 3000 and it begins its move through the system. From this time till the time your car is actually built is about 4 to 6 weeks depending on any production delays. However, the good news is that once your car gets to that event code 3000, you have a car on the way! You’ll soon have a TPW (target production week) although you may see that change until you hit event code 3400 where the TPW becomes pretty stable.
When the car comes off the line, it’s event code 3800. When it’s bayed and awaiting transportation, it’s at 4B00. When it’s actually in motion and on its way to you, that is event code 4200. Event code 5000 means the car is at the dealer’s lot and event code 6000 means the car is in your driveway!
Every two weeks, we’ll be posting all of the allocation and constraint reports so you will know what is on constraint and at what percentage so that you can have an intelligent conversation about your order with your dealer. In the meantime, if you have any questions on how the order process works, feel free to email Dave Salvatore at dave@kerbeck.comand he’ll be happy to answer your questions.
As dealerships begin to enter 2020 Corvette Stingray orders, the following information can be helpful as you walk through the order process:
Anyone can have an order at 1100...and it can sit in a dealership's workbench indefinitely. I had that happen in the past with a local dealership. They told me they had a C7 allocation for me, but in reality had given it to someone else and were currently without any allocations. When I asked for updates, I got the runaround. I eventually asked them what event code my order was at, and when they told me it was still at 1100, I told them I knew they had lied to me and that they didn't have an allocation for my build yet. They did some begging and were ultimately granted an extra allocation.
Another thing to keep in mind is how constraints work. If your order contains an option that is currently under constraint, your order will sit around until the parts become available. You may have had the first order in at your dealership, but a constraint could cause many orders to move ahead of your order. If an option, like Rapid Blue, is not immediately available when production starts, be prepared to wait.
In my opinion, the first truly exciting day is when an order goes to 3300 and the excitement and anticipation continues to build from there until it hits the best event code of all, 6000!
Here are the various GM event codes and what they mean:
1000 Order On Hold at Dealership
1100 Order Placed at Dealership
1101 Order Entered into System
1102 Order Entered via Web
2000 Order Accepted by Chevrolet
2001 Order Generated to Dealer
2005 Order Replaced with GM Prospec Order
2030 Order Edited by Chevrolet
2050 Order Changed
2500 Order Preferenced (or “Picked Up” or “Imaged”), Sent to Production
3000 Order Accepted by Production Control
3100 Order Available to Sequence (now becomes more stable)
3300 Order Selected and Scheduled for Production by Assembly Plant (Target Production Week - TPW - usually available now)
3400 Order Broadcasted for Production (Internal Plant Order Produced)
3800 Vehicle Produced
4000 Vehicle Available to Ship
4104 Bailment Invoice Created
4B00 Bayed (“B”, not 8), Vehicle is waiting on transportation or pulled for quality control
4106 Bailment Released
4150 Vehicle Invoiced (Dealer Billed)
4200 Vehicle Shipped
4300 Intermediate Delivery
4V03 Estimated Delivery Date
4800 Rail Ramp Unload, vehicle at rail road destination awaiting truck transport to dealer
5000 Vehicle Delivered to Dealer
6000 Vehicle Delivered to Customer
9000 Order Cancelled
Additionally, here's a great article from CorvetteBlogger.com covering the entire order process: https://www.corvetteblogger.com/2019...-need-to-know/
This guest post was contributed by Kerbeck Corvette’s Dave Salvatore.
You are custom ordering a 2020 C8 Corvette and you think you’re ready to go. You’ve given your deposit to the dealer, you have selected all of your colors and options, and your dealer has entered the order and given you an order number. Now you just have to sit back and wait for the car to show up. Not quite…
Let’s talk about the entire order process and we’ll figure out if you’ve really got a car on the way.
Order Numbers
“The dealer gave me an order number and told me the order was accepted by GM so I must have a car on the way”. I’m afraid this isn’t true. Any Chevy dealer in the country has the ability to enter an order into the system. As the order moves through the build process, it goes through a series of “event codes” letting you know what is going on with your car. Those codes range from 1100 (Order Accepted by GM) to 6000 (Vehicle Delivered to Customer). Your order could currently be at 1100 and stay there until your dealer has an available allocation, if ever.
Consensus
Before we talk about allocation, let’s talk about consensus. Twice a month, usually on a Thursday, GM sends out to each dealer his 2-week consensus. This consensus shows every vehicle that GM makes, how many that dealer has in stock or inbound for each vehicle and how many GM thinks the dealer needs of each vehicle.
The dealer has a few days (till the following Monday) to study this and decide what he thinks he needs. The dealer has three choices for each vehicle. He can agree with GM and take what they suggested, he can decide he doesn’t need that many and take less (all the way down to zero) or he can decide he needs more and request a number higher than GM suggested.
Requesting more is not a guarantee of getting more. Also, when a car is new and/or hot (like the new Corvette) GM works with what is called a controlled allocation. That is a set number you will get during a designated period and you can not request more or less.
Allocation
Once the dealer and GM hash out how many cars they are going to get, the dealer then gets that amount over the next two weeks with his allocation. Allocations come out on Thursday, must be filled by Saturday and can be edited on Tuesday.
The weekly allocation tells the dealer how many cars he has to order that week and what (if any) constraints the dealer must work with.
So, if a dealer is allocated 5 cars that week and your order is somewhere in that 5 and you meet the constraints, your order is pulled and moved on to the next step (Event Code 2000) and NOW you’ve got a car on order!
Once your dealer is out of allocation, no more orders will be picked up even if you already have an order number. This is why it’s important to understand your dealer’s allocation situation before giving him your deposit.
Constraints
So, your dealer called. Your number is up, he has allocation and he’s ready to place your order. But you can’t get exactly what you want. Maybe the color you want has limited availability, or they are only building 15% of the cars with Z51 or any one of dozens of issues, but you can’t get the car the way you want.
This is called a constraint and it’s when GM is limiting the availability of a certain option. There are a number of reasons this could be happening but usually, it’s a supplier issue. But regardless of the reason, you can’t get the car the way you want. So, what do you do?
At this point, you really only have 3 options. First, change your order to match the constraints. Second, if the dealer is willing, ask the dealer to push your order back to the next allocation period and wait to see if the constraint is lifted. Last, you can cancel your order and try again somewhere else.
This is where it pays to deal with dealers who have a large allocation. Let’s say that Rapid Blue is on a 15% constraint. If your dealer is getting 1 or 2 cars allocated to him that week, there is a very little chance of getting one in the Rapid Blue. If the dealer has an allocation of 50 that week, he’ll probably be getting 7 or 8 blue cars. This becomes even more difficult when dealing with multiple constraints.
Also, if your dealer has limited allocation and you asked to be pushed back, you run the risk of never getting a car.
Order Tracking
Once your car makes it through the allocation and constraints, you hit event code 3000 and it begins its move through the system. From this time till the time your car is actually built is about 4 to 6 weeks depending on any production delays. However, the good news is that once your car gets to that event code 3000, you have a car on the way! You’ll soon have a TPW (target production week) although you may see that change until you hit event code 3400 where the TPW becomes pretty stable.
When the car comes off the line, it’s event code 3800. When it’s bayed and awaiting transportation, it’s at 4B00. When it’s actually in motion and on its way to you, that is event code 4200. Event code 5000 means the car is at the dealer’s lot and event code 6000 means the car is in your driveway!
Every two weeks, we’ll be posting all of the allocation and constraint reports so you will know what is on constraint and at what percentage so that you can have an intelligent conversation about your order with your dealer. In the meantime, if you have any questions on how the order process works, feel free to email Dave Salvatore at dave@kerbeck.comand he’ll be happy to answer your questions.
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I cannot find my order number anywhere. Is it the stock number on the order sheet or did your salesman give it to you after you sent the deposit?
I sent mine in about 3 weeks ago.
should I contact my salesman for order number?
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