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Old Sep 25, 2019 | 11:38 AM
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Please see attached link to the Service Bulletin covering this issue.
-Car does not have to be driven to cause this condition. Exposure to the cold temps are enough. (some of these cracks were found to have occurred during shipping from the factory).
-Once cracked, the tires should be disposed of and not used.
-GM will not replace tires with this condition under warranty (or at least did not for the C7).

Guys, I am not trying to scream fire in a crowded theatre, I am just trying to find out if the condition in the SB might apply to either tire (but in my case a Z51) installed on the C8.
I may have a delivery coming in February to April where in my area could very likely have these Temps.
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Old Sep 25, 2019 | 11:45 AM
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Service Bulletin

File in Section: 03 - Suspension

Bulletin No.: 13-03-10-001D

Date: August, 2016

INFORMATION

Subject: Information on Tire Cold Weather Cracking

Models: 2012-2017 Buick Regal GS

2014-2015 Cadillac CTS Vsport

2016-2017 Cadillac ATS-V, CTS-V

2012-2015 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1, Z/28

2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1

2013-2015 Chevrolet Camaro SS with RPO 1LE

2014-2017 Chevrolet Corvette, Corvette Z06

2014-2017 Chevrolet SS

Attention: Advise customers of these vehicles that they are equipped with a high performance

summer-only tire that will have reduced traction performance at temperatures below

approximately 40°F (5°C). GM recommends installing winter tires if driving below these

temperatures. Avoid driving, moving, or test-driving vehicles equipped with high

performance summer-only tires below 20°F (7°C), as operating at these temperatures

can cause damage to the tires. This Bulletin also applies to any of the above models

that may be Export vehicles.

This Bulletin has been revised to update the Model Years. Please discard Corporate Bulletin

Number 13-03-10-001C.

Cold Weather Operation

The vehicles referenced above are all equipped with 3

season performance tires commonly referred to as

Summer Tires.

The rubber used in these tires loses flexibility and may

develop surface cracks (1) in the tire tread/shoulder

area at colder temperatures. Refer to the photos below

for examples.

Surface cracks are cosmetic and will not result in a loss

of air, however special tread and compounds used on

these performance tires will cause a decrease in

performance in cold climates. Driving with high

performance summer tires on snow, ice or cold road

surfaces may cause loss of control.

Important: While the cracking will not result in air

loss, it is damaging to the tire. Tires that have been

used in cold climates and exhibit tread cracks should

be discarded.

Tire Surface Cracks

3274901

Page 2 August, 2016 Bulletin No.: 13-03-10-001D

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2014-2015 Cadillac CTS Vsport

The 2014 and 2015 Cadillac CTS Vsport is equipped

with 245/40R18 and 275/35R18 Pirelli P-Zero Nero

(RPO RKK) ultra-high performance summer tires.

Please advise customers that this vehicle is equipped

with an ultra-high performance summer tire that will

have reduced traction performance at temperatures

below approximately 5°C (40°F). GM recommends

installing winter tires if driving below these

temperatures.

Avoid driving, moving, or test-driving CTSs

equipped with Pirelli P-Zero Nero (RPO RKK) tires

below -7°C (20°F) as operating at these

temperatures can cause damage to the tires.

Refer to the latest version of Corporate Bulletin Number

04-03-10-013: Driving Characteristics of Rear Wheel

Drive Vehicles and Available Winter Tires for further

information on available replacement winter tires for

cold climate operation. Additionally, dealers in the

United States may call the GM Tire Program at

877-728-4737 for help with late season tire availability

or substitutions.

2012-2015 Camaro Models RPO (ZL1, 1LE or Z28),

2017 Camaro ZL1

The Camaro ZL1 and RPO 1LE vehicles come with

285/35ZR20 and/or 305/35ZR20 Goodyear F1

Supercar G2 D.O.T. approved ultra high performance,

track capable summer tires as standard equipment.

The Camaro Z/28 is equipped with 305/30ZR19 Pirelli

P Zero Trofeo R of similar capabilities.

All of these Camaro models tires are not intended to be

driven on snow, ice or road surfaces below -7°C (20°F).

If the ambient temperature in your location is at or

below -7°C (20°F), DO NOT MOVE THIS VEHICLE.

Driving the vehicle, when the temperature is below -7°C

(20°F), may result in surface cracks in the tread area of

the tire.

Refer to the latest version of Corporate Bulletin Number

04-03-10-013: Driving Characteristics of Rear Wheel

Drive Vehicles and Available Winter Tires for further

information on available replacement winter tires for

cold climate operation.

2014-2017 Corvette, Corvette Z06

The 20142017 Corvette is equipped with Michelin

Pilot Super Sport ZP Runflat tires or Michelin Pilot

Sport Cup 2 ZP tires. These tires are ultra high

performance, track capable summer tires.

This tire has reduced capability below 5°C (40°F) and it

is recommended that suitable winter tires be fitted

below this temperature.

Avoid driving, moving, or test-driving Corvettes

equipped with Michelin Pilot Super Sport ZP tires

below -7°C (20°F) as operating at these

temperatures can cause damage to the tires.

Refer to the latest version of Corporate Bulletin Number

04-03-10-013: Driving Characteristics of Rear Wheel

Drive Vehicles and Available Winter Tires for further

information on available replacement winter tires for

cold climate operation.

2014-2017 Chevrolet SS

The 20142016 SS is equipped with Bridgestone

ultra-high performance summer tires.

This tire has reduced capability below 5°C (40°F) and it

is recommended that suitable winter tires be fitted

below this temperature.

Refer to the latest version of Corporate Bulletin Number

04-03-10-013: Driving Characteristics of Rear Wheel

Drive Vehicles and Available Winter Tires for further

information on available replacement winter tires for

cold climate operation.

2012-2017 Buick Regal GS, 2016-2017 Cadillac

ATS-V and CTS-V

The 2012-2017 Regal GS, 2016-2017 Cadillac ATS-V

and CTS-V are equipped with ultra-high performance

summer tires.

This tire has reduced capability below 5°C (40°F) and it

is recommended that suitable winter tires be fitted

below this temperature.

Refer to the latest version of Corporate Bulletin Number

04-03-10-013: Driving Characteristics of Rear Wheel

Drive Vehicles and Available Winter Tires for further

information on available replacement winter tires for

cold climate operation.

Tire Storage

It is recommended that Summer tires are stored

indoors at temperatures above -7°C (20°F) when not in

use. If the tires have been subjected to -7°C (20°F) or

less, let them warm up in a heated space to at least 5°C

(40°F) for 24 hours or more before being installed or

driving a vehicle on which they are installed. Inflate the

tires only after they have been warmed above 5°C (40°

F). Do not place tires near heaters or heating devices

used to warm the room where the tires are stored. Do

not apply heat or blow heated air directly on the tires.

Always inspect tires before use after being stored.

Bulletin No.: 13-03-10-001D August, 2016 Page 3

Customer Information

Please share this information with the customer,

including a copy of this message.
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Old Sep 25, 2019 | 11:49 AM
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I think alot of it comes down to the individual tire compound. I've been on the racetrack below freezing on Nitto NT05s (r-comps, so definitely "summer tire") and lived to tell the tale. Hell, on the back straight there was ICE across the entire track for about 30 yards (and right at the normal start of braking). And this was after the car sat on those tires overnight (while it snowed and iced). They were definitely flat spotted and it took some time to get them warm enough to go back to round and they were slick as snot until I got some heat into them, but meh.. I'd do it again.

Being in Texas, it definitely does not make sense to get another set of wheels/tires for the handful of days it is cold enough to need winter tires (or even all seasons). Now, generally I don't drive one of the cars with summer times on it, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't.
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Old Sep 25, 2019 | 12:00 PM
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I've driven my Super Sport tires in temperatures as low as 20 degrees, and never had the "cracking" issue. If I had, I'd be more likely to suspect offloading the car from a car-hauler, when temperatures around here were between zero. and 15 below.

Yes, traction decreases at lower temperatures, but it doesn't really go below the traction thresholds of "normal" cars.

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Old Sep 25, 2019 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by vndkshn
Being in Texas, it definitely does not make sense to get another set of wheels/tires for the handful of days it is cold enough to need winter tires (or even all seasons). Now, generally I don't drive one of the cars with summer times on it, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't.

I should be good in Cali. lowest I seen is 35 deg and I'm sure it it be in the mid 40's or higher when the sun starts to pops out.
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Old Sep 25, 2019 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by VH Vette
I am just trying to find out if the condition in the SB might apply to either tire (but in my case a Z51) installed on the C8.
I may have a delivery coming in February to April where in my area could very likely have these Temps.
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Short answer is yes, bulletin & precautions should still apply on the Z51 summer tires... same as stated for the 2014-2017 Corvette, Corvette Z06 as you posted:

2014-2017 Corvette, Corvette Z06

The 20142017 Corvette is equipped with Michelin Pilot Super Sport ZP Runflat tires or Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 ZP tires. These tires are ultra high performance, track capable summer tires. This tire has reduced capability below 5°C (40°F) and it is recommended that suitable winter tires be fitted below this temperature.

Avoid driving, moving, or test-driving Corvettes equipped with Michelin Pilot Super Sport ZP tires below -7°C (20°F) as operating at these temperatures can cause damage to the tires.

Refer to the latest version of Corporate Bulletin Number 04-03-10-013: Driving Characteristics of Rear Wheel Drive Vehicles and Available Winter Tires for further information on available replacement winter tires for cold climate operation.

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Old Sep 25, 2019 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick49
Never heard of cold cracking tires. My understanding it's UV radiation and ozone. I've driven Porsches with Dunlop, Pirelli P Zero, Michelin PS2, and Sumitomo summer tires in the canyons in sub 20 degree temps for nearly 20 years. Never any cracking. I do tip toe around on those ice cold roads however and don't see how quickly I can straighten out the curves.
I would think its because the rubber compound is subject to becoming like a hockey puck. Thats what the tires felt the one day when I touched one in that low of a temp. When things get cold they get brittle.
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Old Sep 25, 2019 | 04:42 PM
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"Summer Tire" = cracking and lessened performance in cold.
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Interesting. But it didn’t matter to me. I bought wheels, and all season tires for my Z51 before I got the car...
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Old Sep 25, 2019 | 09:50 PM
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The chance of summer only tires cracking really depends on the conditions the tire is put in. My 2017 Camaro SS 1LE came with the GY F1 Supercar generation 3 tires. I live in Oklahoma and drove on those tires for the 1st year all year long no matter the temps. Only bad was what I expected, when it was cold outside grip was reduced. I replaced those tires with the Michelin Pilot 4S summer performance tire. I put 10.5k miles on the stock tires, I am at 23.5k on the Michelin tires and drive year round no matter the temps, again zero issues with the tires other than lack of traction when it is cold out. Doesnt help the car makes 650rwhp either, so traction is limited all the time.

My car doesnt sit outside all the time, it is parked in a garage and only sits outside when I am at work.
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Old Sep 27, 2019 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by bhvrdr
Well then its not the ps4s on the pre production cars. The ps4s is not a runflat. The all season ps as4 is
Here you go, a Z51 with PS4 ZP (look to the right of the "Pilot Sport 4S" (in the little oblong circle...."ZP")


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Old Sep 27, 2019 | 06:36 PM
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I'm in Canada and was told something appropriate to this question by my (very experienced) sales guy. And I believe some of the information above is now outdated.

In the past, Corvette would not ship to Canada in the winter months. He says that this was because the tires could get damaged in transit in extreme cold.

No more apparently. The new tires will withstand our winter temps without damage. My car (Z51) may arrive as soon as January.

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Old Sep 28, 2019 | 10:08 AM
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After reading this post, would you guys who live in areas where it gets colder in the winter purchase another set of wheels and tires and change them out?
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Old Sep 28, 2019 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Birdy46
After reading this post, would you guys who live in areas where it gets colder in the winter purchase another set of wheels and tires and change them out?
For me the Corvette will not be a daily driver. If it was I'd be looking for winter tires.

It will go out occasionally on dry days in winter and I'll just go easy on the gas.
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Old Sep 28, 2019 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Birdy46
After reading this post, would you guys who live in areas where it gets colder in the winter purchase another set of wheels and tires and change them out?
Or, buy a second vehicle. In my case, I bought a 4WD Jeep as a second vehicle. Never worried about getting around in the winter after purchasing the Jeep.
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Old Sep 28, 2019 | 11:50 AM
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For me, it's not about getting around in snow or ice. It's about being able to drive in a spirited fashion in the dead of winter on a bright sunny day, on dry pavement, when the temp is 20ºF. A tire like the AS3+ allows you do that with very good grip at those temps.

I insist on using any vehicle I own 12 months a year.

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Old Sep 28, 2019 | 12:43 PM
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Just checked yesterday...the c8 tires wont crack in cold winter months but traction will be reduced so figure 1970 level of grip from your c8 z51...

based on that assumption decide if you want snow tires ...

the summer tires only kn the c8 wont crack...

ill probably buy a nother set of take rims and out snows on them....

the cost is nothing as this meathod just extends the life of the summer tires,,

its bascially free with the exception if a $500 set if oem c8 takeoffs and the tire sensors....

ive driven fir years all year round on summer only tires...in the NY tri state area....its not a big deal as many here would have you believe....

its like dancing on ice with lateral grip down near .68 lateral G’s. In many ways its fun...

that said the c8 z51 tures wont crack in the cold.
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If you don't want to drive in snow, you don't need snow tires. UHP all-seasons offer excellent grip down to the single digits. I know, I've been running AS3+ for 3 winters. I have both PSS and AS3+ sets and run each 6 months a year.

Snow tires aren't even close to as good as the AS3+ on dry pavement. They'll also get you home in a light snow covering if you're ever surprised.

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Originally Posted by Bikerjulio
I'm in Canada and was told something appropriate to this question by my (very experienced) sales guy. And I believe some of the information above is now outdated.

In the past, Corvette would not ship to Canada in the winter months. He says that this was because the tires could get damaged in transit in extreme cold.

No more apparently. The new tires will withstand our winter temps without damage. My car (Z51) may arrive as soon as January.
I was told the same last Saturday at Wilson-Niblett when I ordered my 2021
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Old Oct 1, 2019 | 09:47 AM
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The other alternative to the Michelin A/S tire is the Continental DWS06 high performance A/S tire. We have them on our Audi SQ5 and they are an excellent choice as well.
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