View Poll Results: What's max you pay for an e-stick gated shifter w/3rd pedal?
$3K
3
50.00%
$5K
1
16.67%
$7k
2
33.33%
$10K
0
0%
Voters: 6. You may not vote on this poll
E-stick
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Instructor
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You don't drift much. Period. But you tried to imply you have some experience when it's woefully obvious you DO NOT.
BTW, I'm not finger pointing at you, per say. This is by far the most posture filled membership i have ever encountered in +20yr of forums since bbs days. I've frequented FerrariChat, Rennlist, Renntech, HybridZ.org, Miata.net, LotusTalk, 6Speedonline, BuickGNZ, Turbobuick, Zcar, etc... I wonder why that is?
Look at all these non relevant posts!! Like they didn't even read the first post, which describes the rules for posting. Such childish behavior. Really quite sad. It's like a bunch of low IQ seniors, duh could I be right? Is this the typical Vette owner? Makes one wonder.
Last edited by TraxsterII; Oct 24, 2019 at 10:06 AM.
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Apology accepted. But if you're trying to be coy, which you've displayed before. Your credibility is at stake. It's human to err, but when you make a habitual habit of it, your colors are starting to show.
You don't drift much. Period. But you tried to imply you have some experience when it's woefully obvious you DO NOT.
BTW, I'm not finger pointing at you, per say. This is by far the most posture filled membership i have ever encountered in +20yr of forums since bbs days. I've frequented FerrariChat, Rennlist, Renntech, HybridZ.org, Miata.net, LotusTalk, 6Speedonline, BuickGNZ, Turbobuick, Zcar, etc... I wonder why that is?
Look at all these non relevant posts!! Like they didn't even read the first post, which describes the rules for posting. Such childish behavior. Really quite sad. It's like a bunch of seniors, duh could I be right? Is this the typical Vette owner? Makes one wonder.
You don't drift much. Period. But you tried to imply you have some experience when it's woefully obvious you DO NOT.
BTW, I'm not finger pointing at you, per say. This is by far the most posture filled membership i have ever encountered in +20yr of forums since bbs days. I've frequented FerrariChat, Rennlist, Renntech, HybridZ.org, Miata.net, LotusTalk, 6Speedonline, BuickGNZ, Turbobuick, Zcar, etc... I wonder why that is?
Look at all these non relevant posts!! Like they didn't even read the first post, which describes the rules for posting. Such childish behavior. Really quite sad. It's like a bunch of seniors, duh could I be right? Is this the typical Vette owner? Makes one wonder.
ROFL. You good!
Drifting
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How many of you would pay for an aftermarket third pedal e-stick?
This would be an add-on, classic Ferrari gated shifter. It's not up for debate if it's too gimmicky or not, I'm looking at just a head count for those who would seriously consider it. I'm thinking of taking on such a project and bringing it to market. My main reason for wanting a third pedal stick is because I'm hard wired for 3rd pedal and don't want to relearn, and partially I'm currently of the belief your hands are too busy on the steering wheel in an emergency/combat maneuvers situation, attempting to fiddle with the paddles when lightning reflexes are required working the steering wheel, e.g. drifting and kicking the clutch --steering wheel is all over the place! No time and dexterity hunting for pulling both paddles . Anyways let's keep this thread clear regarding the merits and worth of such an option, etc... That is not welcomed, and there is another bloated thread for that, inundated with trolls.
I repeat this is just a head count for those willing to pay for optional e-stick. This would not disable auto mode, factory set up.
This would be an add-on, classic Ferrari gated shifter. It's not up for debate if it's too gimmicky or not, I'm looking at just a head count for those who would seriously consider it. I'm thinking of taking on such a project and bringing it to market. My main reason for wanting a third pedal stick is because I'm hard wired for 3rd pedal and don't want to relearn, and partially I'm currently of the belief your hands are too busy on the steering wheel in an emergency/combat maneuvers situation, attempting to fiddle with the paddles when lightning reflexes are required working the steering wheel, e.g. drifting and kicking the clutch --steering wheel is all over the place! No time and dexterity hunting for pulling both paddles . Anyways let's keep this thread clear regarding the merits and worth of such an option, etc... That is not welcomed, and there is another bloated thread for that, inundated with trolls.
I repeat this is just a head count for those willing to pay for optional e-stick. This would not disable auto mode, factory set up.
Le Mans Master
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Nope. Wouldn’t do anything for me, personally, so I’d vote $0, if that was an option.
IMHO. if you are asking “how many would be interested” your poll should have a “not interested” option.
IMHO. if you are asking “how many would be interested” your poll should have a “not interested” option.
Last edited by Kent1999; Oct 24, 2019 at 10:16 AM.
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Even GM looked into a simulated shifter and clutch for the C8 and decided it was a waste of time. It was all connected by wire to the DCT and used springs and other mechanical trickery to simulate a real clutch and shifter.
Maybe you can find out what suppliers they were working with?
Maybe you can find out what suppliers they were working with?
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Warning to all....
Let's keep the conversation civil here.....no need for name calling or otherwise.
OP, obviously you're not getting the responses you thought you would. If you would like, we can add and/or modify the poll.
OP, obviously you're not getting the responses you thought you would. If you would like, we can add and/or modify the poll.
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Burning Brakes
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I can say that I absolutely wouldn't pay any markup over say 2-3k, over the DCT option, to have the MT, so perhaps start from there?
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Obviously would depend on implementation, and also, as questioned, the ability to both modulate the clutch pressure (meaning also slip the clutch, if, and for as long, as desired) and be able to skip gears as desired, but if you were able to provide such abilities, I would definitely be interested if the install looked pretty factory... but I couldn't even begin to give you a $$ figure that I would pay unless I saw how it was implemented.
I can say that I absolutely wouldn't pay any markup over say 2-3k, over the DCT option, to have the MT, so perhaps start from there?
I can say that I absolutely wouldn't pay any markup over say 2-3k, over the DCT option, to have the MT, so perhaps start from there?
Last edited by TraxsterII; Oct 24, 2019 at 10:47 AM.
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For a COMPLETE read as to the desirability of said E-Stick, you should have included the not for me option. The poll is slanted to achieve a biased response. You are getting the response in the comments that you should have included in your poll
OBTW - NO, I wouldn't pay anything for it.
OBTW - NO, I wouldn't pay anything for it.
Le Mans Master
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I am a manual guy but I think this will be a tough sale if is not a factory option. Why? I think the biggest reason will be warranty concerns on a brand new Corvette platform and also just resale. I think in 3-6 years when warranties are gone or about to be gone folks might be more open to something like this.
The other concern folks may have is that you just joined this forum out of thin air. Nobody knows anything about you and your experience with this type of thing or your credentials. Have you done this with other brands/cars and can post some references in terms of your experience and skills?
The other concern folks may have is that you just joined this forum out of thin air. Nobody knows anything about you and your experience with this type of thing or your credentials. Have you done this with other brands/cars and can post some references in terms of your experience and skills?
Burning Brakes
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Understandable. Just try to imagine best case scenario. I don't have render yet, and only so much can be realistically expected functionally. A hobbled on stick is a no go, it has to look factory good. It will function with decent feel, stick notchinness and pedal feel uptake can be replicated regarding mechanical feel will be constant. IOW drag of the gates and pedal throw will never vary in feel, because they are not mechanically tied. Tactile intermediate feel is going to cost $$$ for programming and variable resistance device to mimic physical interactions, so likely not feasible. Just an off/on switch type stick and pedal would probably cost $2k in parts. Clutch slip would have to be very minimal, in line with DCT GM warranty.
Here is the problem... You say, "imagine best case scenario", then proceed to say that replicating the action and feel of a true MT would cost too much, essentially mooting your own previous statement (because that would be the "...best case scenario").
I really don't see you being successful here, since you are wanting to offer/sell an "MT-like experience", but you are not really offering what a MT fan would be looking for, or what they would consider an "MT-like experience".
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For a COMPLETE read as to the desirability of said E-Stick, you should have included the not for me option. The poll is slanted to achieve a biased response. You are getting the response in the comments that you should have included in your poll
OBTW - NO, I wouldn't pay anything for it.
OBTW - NO, I wouldn't pay anything for it.
Fair enough. Thanks.