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I've launched the new 911. It feels like nothing is happening. But it's a rocket. Very smooth. No wheels spin. Porsche has had a 50 year jump on chevy. It shows in the execution. C9 will be on a much more level playing field.
Which new 911 are we talking about here? The car has been out for a year and has three versions out. I have seen the video of the base and it is not a rocket! far from it. I do get it the 4S launches marvelously no debate there.
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Car was gorgeous inside and out but was nothing like my C7Z.. brutal acceleration.
I assume the turbo or the GT cars feel more visceral. But I would still be feel nothing like the C7Z.
Thw 911 is too refined to feel special in. Hard to explain. You either like that or you dont.
I have a strong suspicion many will drive the C8 and miss the rawness. And many others will like the refinement more...
chevy opened themselves up to people cross shopping for both good and bad. See how this plays out once all the 75 80yo are driving around in the new car and the stigma remains.
Doesn't bother or stop me. But a lame Audi-esque driving experience will.
I've launched the new 911. It feels like nothing is happening. But it's a rocket. Very smooth. No wheels spin. Porsche has had a 50 year jump on chevy. It shows in the execution. C9 will be on a much more level playing field.
How about one snap shot from anywhere. Do I care? Not really. I just laugh when I keep seeing it regurgitated everywhere like "no new taxes" it's a great headline.
Car launches like any other rwd newer Corvette ever has on an unprepped surface.
Magazines that rely on ad revenue to stay in business lmao.
So you think moving 500 pounds over the rear wheels has no effect on traction and there will be no difference between all the previous generation Vettes and the mid engine C8 when it comes to launching off the line? Seriously?
Several car magazines have tested and shown 2.8 and 2.9 0-60. What kind of video will convince you? Be specific because magazine tests don’t seem to be enough.
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This is the twilight zone where the goal post keep moving simply because its a Corvette and well we all know Corvettes cant do anything right. LMAO.
First it was "I will believe it when Gm says it." They did.
Then it became well "I will believe it when someone actually does it". Then at least 3 or 4 car mags did it.
Now its "I will believe it when folks get the car in their hands and they do it". And they will.
Then it will be "Well those guys weren't on a level surface because the earth is round."
The Z51 car is capable of 0-60 in 2.8-3.0 seconds with stock tires under the right conditions.
Haters and nay sayers put your big boy pants on and deal with it.
It is what it is.
Last edited by dar02081961; Mar 2, 2020 at 01:40 PM.
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This is the twilight zone where the goal post keep moving simply because its a Corvette and well we all know Corvettes cant do anything right. LMAO.
First it was "I will believe it when Gm says it." They did.
Then it became well "I will believe it when someone actually does it". Then at least 3 or 4 car mags did it.
Now its "I will believe it when folks get the car in their hands and they do it". And they will.
Then it will be "Well those guys weren't on a level surface because the earth is round."
The Z51 car is capable of 0-60 in 2.8-3.0 seconds with stock tires under the right conditions.
Haters and nay sayers put your big boy pants on and deal with it.
It is what it is.
What conditions does it take. Just asking since we have yet to see one of those runs.
And the porsche 50yr jump referred to the 911 being more refined in the Same layout vs Chevy year 1.
You think Chevy won't figure it out over time? Or the first time out they just NAILED IT and should quit lmao get with reality.
500 pounds over the rear wheels vs spring rate damping ecm programming of power delivery slipping the clutch etc etc etc...
No it's not looking great for a launch on an average or even better than average surface.
LOOK AT THE WHEELSPIN OF EVERY C8 ON LAUNCH in the video. That launch is crap for the move to ME and is certainly NOT in the ballpark of 3 seconds to 60. Its gonna take the better part of the gen to get that down.. but the car has been delayed long enough it's time to start recouping the investment.
How many of you here were ever featured for an article in a paid for publication? You have no clue what it's about. I have and the article did not articulate what actually happened. When questioned about it I was told oh we used a correction factor to post those numbers... it was a drag radial that worked like **** but they posted it was the bees knees. It wasn't...and no mention of a correction factor used anywhere. I'll leave it at that.
What difference does it make? No matter what proof was shown you would make up some BS excuse and stay in denial anyway. They showed the car recording 0-62 using the cars computer in 3.1 with a passenger AND the air brake on (top removed) and you drag out some conspiracy crap about how the video hid the road so they are really going down hill. No credit given back for a 200 pound passenger or the screwed up aerodynamics, just it must be going down hill. Stay in denial, the rest of us will enjoy our cars.
Just proves German engineer is amazing.......Porsche always puts conservative 0-60 numbers out there. I have no doubt the 992 s can accelerate as fast as the C8.
Just proves German engineer is amazing.......Porsche always puts conservative 0-60 numbers out there. I have no doubt the 992 s can accelerate as fast as the C8.
Last time I checked German engineering put out conservative emission numbers that cost them billions of dollars.
In 2019 alone Porsche put out "conservative" numbers for their 911 engine fuel consumptions and got hammered again for another half a billion.
Just proves German engineer is amazing.......Porsche always puts conservative 0-60 numbers out there. I have no doubt the 992 s can accelerate as fast as the C8.
Well if you look at the magazines then yes, it does accelerate just as fast. (.1s slower, but no one will notice that)
And the porsche 50yr jump referred to the 911 being more refined in the Same layout vs Chevy year 1.
You think Chevy won't figure it out over time? Or the first time out they just NAILED IT and should quit lmao get with reality.
500 pounds over the rear wheels vs spring rate damping ecm programming of power delivery slipping the clutch etc etc etc...
No it's not looking great for a launch on an average or even better than average surface.
LOOK AT THE WHEELSPIN OF EVERY C8 ON LAUNCH in the video. That launch is crap for the move to ME and is certainly NOT in the ballpark of 3 seconds to 60. Its gonna take the better part of the gen to get that down.. but the car has been delayed long enough it's time to start recouping the investment.
How many of you here were ever featured for an article in a paid for publication? You have no clue what it's about. I have and the article did not articulate what actually happened. When questioned about it I was told oh we used a correction factor to post those numbers... it was a drag radial that worked like **** but they posted it was the bees knees. It wasn't...and no mention of a correction factor used anywhere. I'll leave it at that.
Proof. Bring it on.
I agree with your general take on media publications and industry capture. But it applies to all and you can't just single out one car as the beneficiary and not the other.
You have two separate videos taken in two different locations different times and we are trying to visually pit a AWD car launch with a RW car launch.
With statements like "it looks like" NOT in the ball bark of 3 seconds you are hardly in the position to prove you have a smoking gun...
Soon enough you will plenty of fast lists to parse through because, unlike Porsche 911 drivers general unwillingness (no fast lists), Corvette drivers actually hit the 1/4 mile tracks and report their findings.
That would be the time to sound the alarm and make some money on the side by suing Chevrolet for fake 0-60.
You can't sue Chevy for a 0 to 60 time. Not to mention Tadge was clear in the reveal that "we're seeing 0 to 60 in under 3 seconds" key word "we're" translation - if you don't well that's on you..
Originally Posted by Phil1098
What difference does it make? No matter what proof was shown you would make up some BS excuse and stay in denial anyway. They showed the car recording 0-62 using the cars computer in 3.1 with a passenger AND the air brake on (top removed)
Conveniently the camera only shows the instrument cluster. Did they run out of video? Before? After? Where were they?
Like I said a dozen times. Brooks from dragtimes will get his hands on the car and you will know for certain. What it can or can't do. He uses dragy and v box with both actual and the bs 1ft rollout times on the screen with the car in all it's glory.
You know why he does does beause of all the internet bs over the decades now. The stories told with no proof. His website included. He makes sure they are as factual as possible.
Watch some in car and sideline videos of cars getting to 60 in under 3 seconds then ask yourself if that's what the C8 in the spring mountain launch control videos looked like. 0 to 60 in under 3 seconds in a 3600lbs 495hp 470tq car does not allow for wheel spin. And if it does spin a bit it better have a lot more power than the LT2 or be way lighter. It doesn't work that way.
Too funny. unicorns...
Take a look at a ford GT 650hp 550tq under 3500lbs and it can't crack 3 seconds. And it's as flat as a manmade lake.
On SC2 tires. Guy can drive. 0 to 60 1ft rollout 3.1seconds on a 2 step with launch control. .over and over. But the C8 155hp down and 80tq on skinnier weaker tires will beat that.. yep.
You should see the Porsche Taycan.. Wow... It destroys everything it goes up against. Aventador. McClaren 720S. It makes the Hellcat Demon look like it's standing still. It can't even see a C8 Z06 having a chance against it.
As much as I love a good NA V8 engine there is no question the EV cars will be the kings when it comes to 0-60 and drag races. They just need to get the battery charge time figured out. The Porsche Taycan battery drains ridiculously fast while being launched.
Take a look at a ford GT 650hp 550tq under 3500lbs and it can't crack 3 seconds. And it's as flat as a manmade lake.
On SC2 tires. Guy can drive. 0 to 60 1ft rollout 3.1seconds on a 2 step with launch control. .over and over. But the C8 155hp down and 80tq on skinnier weaker tires will beat that.. yep.
You also aren't taking gearing into account. The Ford GT is still in second gear at over 70MPH, the Corvette is already in 3rd at 60. Don't say gearing doesn't matter, look at cars at Bonneville, the ones that can go 300 mph can't leave under their own power they're geared so tall. So since the GT is so great and the C8 is such a slug, tell everyone what the REAL 0-60 time is. Is it 4.8, 4.6, 3.9, you tell us since you think you have all the answers. I know one thing for sure, you have said it won't do 0-60 in 3.0 about 100 times, we get it, you don't believe. It's getting a bit old.
Just proves German engineer is amazing.......Porsche always puts conservative 0-60 numbers out there. I have no doubt the 992 s can accelerate as fast as the C8.
Yeah, and for only twice the price, you're right, amazing.
Zero to 100 is more representative of the capability of today's technology imo.
With awd electric etc etc 60 mph is just not enough to judge. Look at an M5 or E63s? I've run an E63s my buddy's and that awd launch is impossible to touch and that car is like 4400lbs. Blew by him like he threw an anchor out but not until 80mph or so on that run his onboard timer said 2.8 to 60.. and that's with a C7Z.
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