C8 & mods
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Burning Brakes
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C8 & mods
I’d imagine most new C8 owners probably aren’t interested or perhaps they have them performed at a shop but is there any concern among you guys with modding this car?
I was at the Autorama in Detroit this past weekend and had the opportunity to take a peek out back.
It looks like most mods are going require the driveline to be dropped from the car. Not really something most people would be comfortable with in their driveway.
Obviously this could translate into high labour costs which were not as much of an issue previous models.
I was at the Autorama in Detroit this past weekend and had the opportunity to take a peek out back.
It looks like most mods are going require the driveline to be dropped from the car. Not really something most people would be comfortable with in their driveway.
Obviously this could translate into high labour costs which were not as much of an issue previous models.
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Will likely increase labour costs for certain mods yes. That's part of the game, gotta pay to play. I plan on going twin turbo myself so I am waiting for the Z06 and just upgrading whatever turbo's that comes with.
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Im really interested in seeing what the aftermarket has in store for this car with regards to FI. Certainly some big challenges which on previous models were just tweeks.
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The biggest issue is the ECM/ECU. Is it going to be able to be tuned? How long before it gets cracked or will it? What do over the air updates do to a modified tune/ECM? IF you can't tune it, most mods are worthless.
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I don't see any low hanging fruit on the mod side. Currently with encryption and Global B architecture it appears to be Pandora's box if you attempt much. I suspect some tuners will get involved with GM allowing them access, but not for a while.
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Wow yes that’s another consideration. I know the ZR1 crew pays somewhere around 2k for a tune. Not sure what’s involved but sounds like yet another obstacle. Due to the fact there will be many, many more of these on the road it makes sense for the aftermarket to take a shot at cracking the ecu on this car. So what about these updates, will GM be able to see there has been an ecu ‘breach’.
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Wow yes that’s another consideration. I know the ZR1 crew pays somewhere around 2k for a tune. Not sure what’s involved but sounds like yet another obstacle. Due to the fact there will be many, many more of these on the road it makes sense for the aftermarket to take a shot at cracking the ecu on this car. So what about these updates, will GM be able to see there has been an ecu ‘breach’.
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Keep in mind the transmission will be a weak link for significant power for a while till the software is modded and hardware upgrades may come available. On the DSG/PDK side, the software is so heavily integrated with the engine software, that there were a number of check sum hurdles to find and overcome before finding out what can be modified (pressure on clutch plates, shift speeds, etc., etc). - lots of complexity. Probably even moreso with the Corvette having different modes.
It will all get there eventually, but it will take a bit and some trial and error.
It will all get there eventually, but it will take a bit and some trial and error.
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Keep in mind the transmission will be a weak link for significant power for a while till the software is modded and hardware upgrades may come available. On the DSG/PDK side, the software is so heavily integrated with the engine software, that there were a number of check sum hurdles to find and overcome before finding out what can be modified (pressure on clutch plates, shift speeds, etc., etc). - lots of complexity. Probably even moreso with the Corvette having different modes.
It will all get there eventually, but it will take a bit and some trial and error.
It will all get there eventually, but it will take a bit and some trial and error.
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I've learned my lesson with my last 5 Corvettes... always jump in deep and end up wrenching more than driving. For me, the fun is driving them now vs. making something custom. If anything, the car will get some nice wheels and maybe a Corsa exhaust, but it seems the stock NPP system is very aggressive in track mode.
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Well I’m sure you can tell by the name we came from the same place 👍🏻. I reneged on that with in the first year but I’m still married 17 years later lol.
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I've learned my lesson with my last 5 Corvettes... always jump in deep and end up wrenching more than driving. For me, the fun is driving them now vs. making something custom. If anything, the car will get some nice wheels and maybe a Corsa exhaust, but it seems the stock NPP system is very aggressive in track mode.