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Old Aug 7, 2020 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by range96
Not related to this OTA update, but interesting nonetheless. Could the flying frunk issue be related to this?

https://www.motorbiscuit.com/recall-...sierra-pickup/
Wow, over 2000 trucks have had their hoods fly open and the article states "GM claims to have no knowledge of real-world incidents, but c’mon. If there’s a recall you know it’s happening out in the field."
Coincidence, hmmmm?
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Old Aug 7, 2020 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by tdrake2020
“The hood-latch striker wires may not have been heat-treated properly, possibly causing them to fracture.”

While I'm not a hood latch expert this sounds more like a mechanical problem. The C8 flying frunk is a software and/or electrical problem with the frunk lid electomechanical actuator. If it were a mechanical "heat treated striker wire" (whatever that is) problem I doubt you'd be able to get the lid to latch after it breaks.
The description does imply a mechanical failure. On the C8 we don't know the cause yet. The update is for yet another problem.
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Old Aug 7, 2020 | 04:10 PM
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I wonder if the guy who designed the frunk latch is the same guy who designed the column lock on the C5. Or maybe the heads on the C6 LS7 or perhaps even the wheels on the C7 GS.

Good luck getting this fixed by GM
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Old Aug 7, 2020 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by jvp
I'm not debating this with you, or anyone else here tdrake. I'm telling you that that's all the update was for.

When I make statements like that, you can take it to the bank. You haven't been here that long, so you don't understand who you're replying to right now. But pay attention to the information under my name, think about it for a moment or two, and then perhaps you'll realize how and where I get my information.

Capiche?
First, just because you are an assistant at a GM dealership parts counter doesn’t mean you designed the electronic frunk latch control system. Second, the last person I heard use Capiche to ask someone sarcastically if they understand something was 78 years old.

If you have such technical inside information then lay your cards on the table and quit talking down to other members who are just trying to figure out this thing TOGETHER with info not being supplied by GM. And there are a lot of very saavy members on here who have worked on cars for decades who have opinions worth considering.

Personally, I sincerely hope that the software fix was related to the opening issue and maybe corrected it. But if not, I think everyone can agree they found it while trying to problem solve the larger issue. So optimistically some other change will be forthcoming. I seriously doubt they risk liability for years to come from so much notice being placed on this issue.

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Old Aug 7, 2020 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by range96
Not related to this OTA update, but interesting nonetheless. Could the flying frunk issue be related to this?

https://www.motorbiscuit.com/recall-...sierra-pickup/

No, totally different problem. The striker wire (the metal 'U' shaped loop) was breaking. That's the part attached to the hood and goes into the latch. If THAT was the C8's problem it would be immediately evident.

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Old Aug 7, 2020 | 04:57 PM
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Zymurgy and jvp are 100% accurate in stating that this particular OTA update has NOTHING to do with front hoods coming open while driving.

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Old Aug 7, 2020 | 05:06 PM
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Many of you tin-foil hat, conspiracy folks may not know jagamajajaran, but he is well connected to the Corvette team. You can take his comment to the bank.
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Old Aug 7, 2020 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Broken Halo
No, totally different problem. The striker wire (the metal 'U' shaped loop) was breaking. That's the part attached to the hood and goes into the latch. If THAT was the C8's problem it would be immediately evident.
Understood and agree. Bad choice of words about implying this is the cause for the C8. What makes that interesting the number of cases before corrective action was taken. If I saw one broken latch I would've investigated immediately.

The new C8 front trunk update shows the software was half baked... If I was a betting man I would bet the 'programming' was done off-shore.
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Old Aug 7, 2020 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by capevettes
I'm wondering if this was for cars built before the Covid 19 shutdown? My buddy and I were out together yesterday in ours, 2995 and 32-- and neither of us got the update/flash.
2918. I got the update. Car was finished after the shutdown but sat on the line all of the shutdown.
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Old Aug 7, 2020 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by z06inVB
I wonder if the guy who designed the frunk latch is the same guy who designed the column lock on the C5. Or maybe the heads on the C6 LS7 or perhaps even the wheels on the C7 GS.

Good luck getting this fixed by GM
Or the CAG and anti-theft electronics on the C6. My 2009 C6 was as reliable as a $5 Rolex! Had way more tow miles than self propelled miles. To heck with the the 0-60 if you can't count on it to startup and run reliably, or be so scared of it and the fact you'll never know when it will decide to give you the frunk lid finger.

The C8 is being hyped up as a reliable daily driver performance sports car. I expect it to live up to that hype.
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Old Aug 7, 2020 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by range96
Understood and agree. Bad choice of words about implying this is the cause for the C8. What makes that interesting the number of cases before corrective action was taken. If I saw one broken latch I would've investigated immediately.

The new C8 front trunk update shows the software was half baked... If I was a betting man I would bet the 'programming' was done off-shore.
"The new C8 front trunk update shows the software was half baked..."

How so? The screen description during the update?
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Old Aug 7, 2020 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jagamajajaran
Zymurgy and jvp are 100% accurate in stating that this particular OTA update has NOTHING to do with front hoods coming open while driving.
In that case I really feel bad for people who currently own C8's.
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Old Aug 7, 2020 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Broken Halo
No, totally different problem. The striker wire (the metal 'U' shaped loop) was breaking. That's the part attached to the hood and goes into the latch. If THAT was the C8's problem it would be immediately evident.
Wow! That metal "wire" is probably around 3/8" or so. I think formed rod would be a better description. How brittle would such a part have to be in order to break under normal driving? That's downright scary and depressing.

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Old Aug 7, 2020 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by jagamajajaran
Zymurgy and jvp are 100% accurate in stating that this particular OTA update has NOTHING to do with front hoods coming open while driving.
I believe them (and you) on that, because nothing short of a manual/mechanical latch retrofitted to the C8 would be the correct fix to the hood flying open issue. An OTA update might fix the glaring '82 mph max' error in the warning, lack of warning chimes on some cars or accidental release of the hood from some electronic glitch, but none of them would actually be as safe as a manual latch. The only 'quiet fix from GM' acceptable would be sending out ninja mechanics to break into your garage and install a manual latch in your C8 in the dead of night.

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Old Aug 7, 2020 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jagamajajaran
Zymurgy and jvp are 100% accurate in stating that this particular OTA update has NOTHING to do with front hoods coming open while driving.
I try to report just what I see so when I backed out if the garage today with the side mirrors folded I immediately got a message on the info screen to press enable for an update to download and turn off the engine in park mode while it updates in 5-15 minutes. A message on the info screen said I could leave and come back later but I sat there for at least five minutes then exited and came back later. Upon restarting the C8 the info screen indicted the update was complete and successful.

Funny thing is while sitting in the car during the update both side mirror proximity sensors blinked at least two time each. What was that all about?
VIN 105X build date 02/20/2020
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Old Aug 7, 2020 | 07:10 PM
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If they fix or fixed it without telling the owners, that would be terrible.
How could you trust your car?
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Old Aug 7, 2020 | 07:54 PM
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3959, downloaded update today
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Originally Posted by tdrake2020
Wow! That metal "wire" is probably around 3/8" or so. I think formed rod would be a better description
I was trying to keep the terminology simple for people such as yourself whom, by your own admission, "While I'm not a hood latch expert" (Post #80).
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Originally Posted by Racer86
3959, downloaded update today
3603 downloaded yesterday.

Now if all the people that got the update can list the vin numbers, maybe there’s a pattern to be seen?
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Old Aug 7, 2020 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Broken Halo
I was trying to keep the terminology simple for people such as yourself whom, by your own admission, "While I'm not a hood latch expert" (Post #80).
Hey, I like simple...
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