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The easiest way to make this happen is with the basic C8 architecture using the Corvette Design/Engineering Team now assigned to the EV group in GM to develop the car. And build the Cadillac in the BG plant.
So maybe the Hybrid C8 will be a Vett and the full EV C8/9 a Cadillac?:
Last edited by Kodiak Bear; Nov 20, 2020 at 09:50 AM.
I don't know if GM can survive since they did not take the EV seriously for years. They also have too much legacy cost in ICE manufacturing hardware that will be virtually worthless. All it will take is one more battery innovation to make refueling an EV as convenient as a gas vehicle and a reduction in price. When this happens there will be no reason for anyone to reject buying an EV.
I am tired of hearing this crap. GM pioneered the modern production EV. They produced the EV1 and found out the technology wasn’t ready and the market wasn’t ready either. They pioneered the EV skateboard platform. The market wasn’t ready. The infrastructure is not there to produce the batteries and recharging for GM to produce and sell millions of EVs. They have allowed Tesla lose billions of dollars selling too expensive for the mainstream EVs. They will be ready when the Market is ready for them to sell millions of cars at a price people can afford, and the infrastructure can support them.
The chart was briefed by GM executives yesterday to the investment community. You're welcome to your opinion of the GM executives and the investment community. IMO what;'s driving the EV is the stock performance of Tesla. Retirement fund investors and mutual fund investors want GM stock to "pull a Tesla" and go through the roof.
The chart was briefed by GM executives yesterday to the investment community. You're welcome to your opinion of the GM executives and the investment community. IMO what;'s driving the EV is the stock performance of Tesla. Retirement fund investors and mutual fund investors want GM stock to "pull a Tesla" and go through the roof.
The chart was briefed by GM executives yesterday to the investment community. You're welcome to your opinion of the GM executives and the investment community.
Of course I am and if this chart is any indicator they have problems that run deeper than just their strategy and implementation of it.
Originally Posted by Kodiak Bear
IMO what;'s driving the EV is the stock performance of Tesla. Retirement fund investors and mutual fund investors want GM stock to "pull a Tesla" and go through the roof.
The only way GM stock is going to "pull a Tesla" is if they somehow convince Elon Musk to assume full leadership of the company and his first order of business is to cut the massive layers of bureaucracy, management overhead and perform the nearly impossible feat of extricating a decades old history of old school corporate culture.
The chart was briefed by GM executives yesterday to the investment community. You're welcome to your opinion of the GM executives and the investment community. IMO what;'s driving the EV is the stock performance of Tesla. Retirement fund investors and mutual fund investors want GM stock to "pull a Tesla" and go through the roof.
I don't see that happening. Tesla is more than a car manufacturer. It's innovative and researching future tech. GM is just an automotive company with virtually no innovation.
Last edited by CorvetteAJ; Nov 21, 2020 at 12:08 PM.
I don't see that happening. Tesla is more than a car manufacturer. It's innovative and researching future tech. GM is just an automotive company with virtually no innovation.
"The new battery cell chemistry, now undergoing early tests at a lab inside GM’s suburban Detroit technical center, can hold twice as much energy as the company’s current electric vehicle batteries, Parks said. They’ll also cost 60% less than current battery packs now in the Chevrolet Bolt electric car, he said.
The chemistry, which will use lithium metal anodes, will help GM package battery cells for a wide range of vehicles at different price points and ranges, Parks said. The new battery cells also will be used by Honda, which is partnering with GM and battery cell supplier LG Chem of Korea.
Parks said GM’s next generation of batteries due out next year already are getting close to reducing electric vehicle costs so they are similar to internal combustion engine vehicles, especially when fuel costs are factored in.
He said GM will build its own batteries to take advantage of economies of scale as more electric vehicles are sold. “We’ll learn it. We’ll perfect it. We’ll scale it and we’ll ride that cost curve down,” Parks said".
I don't see that happening. Tesla is more than a car manufacturer. It's innovative and researching future tech. GM is just an automotive company with virtually no innovation.
Full EV will still be a Corvette. I suppose in the C9 generation a Cadillac-branded model could exist but I wouldn't count on it to be recognizable as a Corvette based creation as the drivetrain wouldn't dictate the design as it does in an ICE vehicle.
when Ford made an electric SUV, they called it a Mustang. Why would GM make an electric sportscar and call it anything but Corvette?
Full EV will still be a Corvette. I suppose in the C9 generation a Cadillac-branded model could exist but I wouldn't count on it to be recognizable as a Corvette based creation as the drivetrain wouldn't dictate the design as it does in an ICE vehicle.
when Ford made an electric SUV, they called it a Mustang. Why would GM make an electric sportscar and call it anything but Corvette?
Because Tesla is making a EV sports car and Cadillac is supposed to be the lead EV brand for GM???
I drive a 2017 Model S 100D and a 2019 2LT GS. I’m a big fan of both because they are each impressive in their own unique ways. The Model S is the ultimate sleeper, driving it makes you feel almost invisible, just punch it and traffic disappears in your mirrors. It doesn’t take the place of the Corvette, it complements it.
I've got a gas leaf blower, and I've got an electric leaf blower. I can fill up the gas one in about three minutes, and that includes mixing two stroke oil in the gas. I can fill the electric one in a few hours. I can run the gas blower full bore for about 45 minutes. I can run the electric blower full bore for about 10 minutes. The electric blower is handy for small jobs, but when I need to do regular blowing, the gas one is the only one that cuts it. That about the way I feel about a gas vs. electric Corvette.
I've got a gas leaf blower, and I've got an electric leaf blower. I can fill up the gas one in about three minutes, and that includes mixing two stroke oil in the gas. I can fill the electric one in a few hours. I can run the gas blower full bore for about 45 minutes. I can run the electric blower full bore for about 10 minutes. The electric blower is handy for small jobs, but when I need to do regular blowing, the gas one is the only one that cuts it. That about the way I feel about a gas vs. electric Corvette.
Because Tesla is making a EV sports car and Cadillac is supposed to be the lead EV brand for GM???
Being the lead EV brand does not mean they get to do the sporty thing. Comfort, features and range are far more important to most people than sporty handling. Cadillac is where we can expect the latest EV tech applied to premium 4-door cars, this is what makes it the lead EV brand for GM. Not whether or not they do a sportscar. Tesla didn't get to the lead by offering sportscars, they got there by offering sedans.
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