Relay attacks





Relay attack
A relay attack in computer security is a type of hacking technique related to man-in-the-middle and replay attacks. In a classic man-in-the-middle attack, an attacker intercepts and manipulates communications between two parties initiated by one of the parties. In a classic relay attack, communication with both parties is initiated by the attacker who then merely relays messages between the two parties without manipulating them or even necessarily reading them.Like sitting in a car and reading the GARAGE OPENER code, coming back later, opening it and then entering the garage when the owner is out. This is a little more complex, but the same principle.
Kill switch won't stop anyone from hauling it away with a tow truck, And GPS often just tells the cops where the car got stripped by the time they get there. You don't really think a car theft is the highest priority big city cops have on their plates.
Last edited by Red Mist Rulz; Mar 6, 2021 at 11:25 AM.
Kill switch does not work with a flatbed.
Insurance is the best bet, as stated earlier ..
When they use the flat bed, they put an aluminized cover over the car and all the GPS stuff is useless.
A few years ago the news showed how they took a car, with a flatbed, covered it and then disabled the battery. Then covered the car again. Gone from view and GPS.
They got caught because one owner had put a separate GPS with it's own separate battery in the car. It only showed for a few minutes while getting moved into a shipping container, but enough to find the yard where it was. If I remember there was over 30 cars there..
When it goes into a shipping container - metal and it's next stop is overseas.
Last edited by BLUE1972; Mar 6, 2021 at 12:27 PM.
Insurance is the best bet, as stated earlier ..
When they use the flat bed, they put an aluminized cover over the car and all the GPS stuff is useless.
A few years ago the news showed how they took a car, with a flatbed, covered it and then disabled the battery. Then covered the car again. Gone from view and GPS.
They got caught because one owner had put a separate GPS with it's own separate battery in the car. It only showed for a few minutes while getting moved into a shipping container, but enough to find the yard where it was. If I remember there was over 30 cars there..
When it goes into a shipping container - metal and it's next stop is overseas.
In other words, this situation is the OWNERS fault for parking THAT type of car like a normal car
There are two solutions for this, apparently common self-damage
1. stop treating it like a normal car and take special precautions.
2. Figure out why people need to take your "that kind of car" in such a dramatic fashion that theft can't be stopped in the first 5 minutes by use of a simple child tracker from your cell phone or similar real time tracking. Plus armed escort of course, this is diy obv you need 5 trucks to converge on queue
For #1 here are some examples:
A. earth rooted chained up car to car or car to truck, or car to railroad trailer, weld as necessary the frame to take obscene locking chains
B. 'exotic' theft deterrent (warnings about spikes and flames, trapdoors spiders electricity and old opened television panels that were recently unplugged)
C. have it repainted to look like a normal car or put the drivetrain into a normal car, maintaining the performance but without showing it off
D. "scratch up the new bike" the ultimate test of love of ownership- are you willing to sacrifice the vehicle's pristine exterior for the sake of keeping it from being taken?
Corvette's and Mustangs are usually stolen as cars of opportunity and a quick, destructive joy ride. If you're stealing a car to make money on just about any recent Honda, Toyota , [size=13px]Subaru[/size] or full size pickup is worth more on the stolen car/parts market.
If they are going to take it, they use a flatbed and oil on the tires. Gone in less than 60 seconds.
Saw a cop and new Lexus owner in the mall last year standing in a spot with 2 oil tracks on the ground. Yep, it's stolen. People go into the mall for lunch and shopping and by the time they get outside the car is gone.
Last edited by BLUE1972; Mar 8, 2021 at 08:43 AM.
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