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Does anyone have thoughts how strong/weak the C8 corvette is against relay attacks?
I am thinking to buy one of those signal block small bag or box anyway, but those don't guarantee anything, and I may sometime not want to use them, because those things may make keys less-convenient. Just wondering how secure the car is in general.
Unless they're using a different technology compared to what others have, then it most likely is just as vulnerable as the other manufacturer's vehicles.
Unless they're using a different technology compared to what others have, then it most likely is just as vulnerable as the other manufacturer's vehicles.
I see, thanks! I have lost, but I was reading an article with a list of sort of best/worst cars for the attack so I was wondering how good the C8 is. Need to be very careful then.
I'm not going to lose even a second of sleep over this. According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) data, the Corvette has a theft rate of 0.7 per 1000 manufactured in 2014 (the latest year data is available for). By contrast, the Dodge Charger rate was 6.5 per 1000. The Challenger was 3.3 per 1000. The Mustang 2.5 per 1000. The Porsche Panamera was 2.8 per 1000. The Manufacturer with the worst theft rate is Chrysler at 3.3 per 1000.
I'm not going to lose even a second of sleep over this. According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) data, the Corvette has a theft rate of 0.7 per 1000 manufactured in 2014 (the latest year data is available for). By contrast, the Dodge Charger rate was 6.5 per 1000. The Challenger was 3.3 per 1000. The Mustang 2.5 per 1000. The Porsche Panamera was 2.8 per 1000. The Manufacturer with the worst theft rate is Chrysler at 3.3 per 1000.
Thanks! It's always better to be careful, but that is good to know for a little bit of peace of mind. No one may know, but just curious myself what type of factors can make those numbers different, for instance because of differences of technologies, less attractions or Corvette owners tend to have nicer garages which is not my case. lol
If someone really wants it, they'll take it... no matter what you (or GM) does. Just drive it and forget it.
True. Thanks. I don't see C8 in my area, so I am a bit worried. As you said, they take whatever they want. If they want C8, mine is only the option. But yea there is no 100% certain way to protect cars from them.
True. Thanks. I don't see C8 in my area, so I am a bit worried. As you said, they take whatever they want. If they want C8, mine is only the option. But yea there is no 100% certain way to protect cars from them.
Wouldn't you be insured?
If you're insured, doesn't that lift most of the burden? If it's a bad area you live in, wouldn't you be loaded up on insurance anyway?
If you're insured, doesn't that lift most of the burden? If it's a bad area you live in, wouldn't you be loaded up on insurance anyway?
Getting the 'loaded-up' insurance money for a car that you can't replace for 12 months for the money you got kinda puts the burden back, no?
Time for a 'Frunk-Monkey'!
The theft issue isn't so much about compensation by insurance, it's about having to wait another darned year for a replacement C8. Regarding the low national theft rates, there is the variability of living in a large urban area where your odds are increased. I live down the road from the Port of Los Angeles, which is a major overseas shipping point for stolen vehicles.
Back on topic, what are the methods for using one of those signal blocking cases? Do you put the fob in the case after every start & stop of the vehicle? In the house as well? I'm not keen on the hassle of doing all that, but maybe I'd want the case if I see shady characters around me or when I'm traveling to a hotel in an unfamiliar neighborhood.
It looks like my previous couple of posts are missing here. Not sure if I can post this message well or not, but let's try.
Yea I would not like that too much hassle either. But security is all about how much effort you make in my personal opinion. Less effort, less security. I was thinking a signal blocking jewel box (lol) for home but I would just go for one of those small cases which I can use both in and outside.
Nothing is 100% perfect but I will try to keep my key in it but yes as you said, that might be too hassle. I may get tired to do it. haha I'm interested in what will happen if I put my key in those cases when I am sitting in the car. Does it stop or horn? Will see.
Yea, I would try my best to keep keys in those cases when I need to park uncovered open spaces. And also when I go to regular places. For instance, I go to a golf driving rage on weekends pretty much at the same time frame. If they find I show up there regularly, they can wait there and do the attack while I'm hitting ***** at the range. That sounds too easy thing to do for them if they have those signal relaying devices.
Sure, insurance is the last resort and I am on insurance. That should help. But no trouble is the best for me. haha
I'm not going to lose even a second of sleep over this. According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) data, the Corvette has a theft rate of 0.7 per 1000 manufactured in 2014 (the latest year data is available for). By contrast, the Dodge Charger rate was 6.5 per 1000. The Challenger was 3.3 per 1000. The Mustang 2.5 per 1000. The Porsche Panamera was 2.8 per 1000. The Manufacturer with the worst theft rate is Chrysler at 3.3 per 1000.
The corvette is just not that good for drive-byes so you are safe.
If they are going to take it, they use a flatbed and oil on the tires. Gone in less than 60 seconds.
Saw a cop and new Lexus owner in the mall last year standing in a spot with 2 oil tracks on the ground. Yep, it's stolen.
For us really old folks, what is a "relay attack"?
Simple answer A relay attack usually involves two people working together. One stands by the targeted vehicle, while the other stands near the house with a device that can pick up a signal from the key fob. What’s more, some devices can pick up a signal from over 100 metres away.
Relay attack
A relay attack in computer security is a type of hacking technique related to man-in-the-middle and replay attacks. In a classic man-in-the-middle attack, an attacker intercepts and manipulates communications between two parties initiated by one of the parties. In a classic relay attack, communication with both parties is initiated by the attacker who then merely relays messages between the two parties without manipulating them or even necessarily reading them.
Like sitting in a car and reading the GARAGE OPENER code, coming back later, opening it and then entering the garage when the owner is out. This is a little more complex, but the same principle.
If they are going to take it, they use a flatbed and oil on the tires. Gone in less than 60 seconds.
Saw a cop and new Lexus owner in the mall last year standing in a spot with 2 oil tracks on the ground. Yep, it's stolen.
Years ago i worked security for the Rodeo in Houston. These guys would come in with flat beds and use dish soap to lube the tires, ground and trailer bed. I was amazed at how quickly they stole vehicles. There was a time when they would get 5-6 cars a night and we were actively looking for them. It was just a huge lot and visibility wasn't great.
I've had two cars stolen over the years. It's a terrible experience; mainly when you have put a lot of effort and time into the car. This is one reason why i very rarely leave my C6Z parked somewhere other than inside my garage.
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