Smart Driver
Drifting
Joined: Sep 1999
Posts: 1,871
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From: Weatherford TX
I just deactivated my Safe Driver even thou my OnStar 30 day trail period expired on 1st. The safe Drive was still active. So it is now deactivated!!!! and all the stuff it logged. Thanks for the heads up.
Melting Slicks
Joined: May 2021
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I am guessing with OnStar equipped vehicles they are also recording GPS long/lat as well, whether or not you subscribe to onstar the GPS and cellular interfaces are there and in use.
I wonder how much telemetry data GM gets on all these cars in semi-real time? If someone is out doing burnouts and drifting and then has a DCT flip into limp mode (since all the oil has been sloshed HARD against the side of the T-case without the extra 2 qts added!), does GM get a nice little picture of them spinning in a parking lot and a OBD code tagged at that location?
Would be interesting to see how much analysis they do on this data to look for root causes of failures ostensibly to improve their product, or perhaps deny people warranty repairs?
Race Director
Joined: Sep 2016
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^^^
Since the C8 in 2LT and 3LT trim has GPS data whether or not you use OnStar, GM doesn't need OnStar to get that info. The car is probably logging location data in real time as you drive.
The only thing that's certain is that GM will not willingly tell you how much data they're collecting and what they might use it for.
Since the C8 in 2LT and 3LT trim has GPS data whether or not you use OnStar, GM doesn't need OnStar to get that info. The car is probably logging location data in real time as you drive.
The only thing that's certain is that GM will not willingly tell you how much data they're collecting and what they might use it for.
Last edited by Red Mist Rulz; Aug 3, 2021 at 09:21 PM.
Race Director
Joined: Mar 2007
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Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I did not know about it. I never intentionally subscribed to On-Star. My trial subscription, which apparently was activated, has expired. The smart driver feature was still activated after the trial subscription expired. My score was 89 (almost seem like a default score from reading the posts). I de-activated the feature. But I think that as others said, the info is probably still recorded, transmitted, and stored somewhere. I know that the diagnostics continue to work - I still get them on my 2017 Suburban and I never subscribed to On-Star there either.
Racer
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 369
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From: Pacific Northwest
Remember to immediately format your SD card in case you get stopped by the police and before you roll down the window. That little sucker will rat you in as well. It will affect your social credit score.
Melting Slicks
Joined: May 2021
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One has to wonder if there is a FUSE that can be pulled that will shut down the onstar / cellular link? Next question is whether the ECU stores/records data that would be buffered/transmitted later when onstar is re-energized or if at a dealer for service?
Is there is a limit to how much it records? Can it still record GPS position if the onstar module isn't powered?
Is there is a limit to how much it records? Can it still record GPS position if the onstar module isn't powered?
Melting Slicks
Joined: May 2021
Posts: 2,562
Likes: 1,579
^^^
Since the C8 in 2LT and 3LT trim has GPS data whether or not you use OnStar, GM doesn't need OnStar to get that info. The car is probably logging location data in real time as you drive.
The only thing that's certain is that GM will not willingly tell you how much data they're collecting and what they might use it for.
Since the C8 in 2LT and 3LT trim has GPS data whether or not you use OnStar, GM doesn't need OnStar to get that info. The car is probably logging location data in real time as you drive.
The only thing that's certain is that GM will not willingly tell you how much data they're collecting and what they might use it for.
Le Mans Master
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 7,361
Likes: 4,803
From: West Burbs of Chicago IL
Just realized that I was being monitored by I think Onstar. Smart Driver is keeping track of my driving habits and even has a map of where I went. Is there a way to disable it? For those that have not seen it, go to your Chevrolet app and press more. Then press smart driver. You might be surprised. So where can I disable it?
Just read another post about this. Did not see a way to disable it.
Just read another post about this. Did not see a way to disable it.
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