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Can't tell if you are actually serious. Callaway introduces something, and you "really hope some aftermarket company makes a reproduction of that"
Wow, I saw a chinese company is knocking off the porsche macan, and not even hiding the fact. You must be first in line for "new" product like that
https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...han-we-thought
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Sorry, meant this as a reply but I screwed that up.
There was an article a little while back about how GM is giving Callaway access to the ECU. You are correct in that Callaway says nothing about tuning; granted they mention little about specifics. I am speculating (so no, not a factual statement) that Callaway would tune the ECU along with the performance parts. Its a competitive edge they've been given by GM (or paid for, we don't know how the acquisition went). I personally (opinion) would use every advantage available to sell my product.
Sorry, meant this as a reply but I screwed that up.
There was an article a little while back about how GM is giving Callaway access to the ECU. You are correct in that Callaway says nothing about tuning; granted they mention little about specifics. I am speculating (so no, not a factual statement) that Callaway would tune the ECU along with the performance parts. Its a competitive edge they've been given by GM (or paid for, we don't know how the acquisition went). I personally (opinion) would use every advantage available to sell my product.
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Can't tell if you are actually serious. Callaway introduces something, and you "really hope some aftermarket company makes a reproduction of that"
Wow, I saw a chinese company is knocking off the porsche macan, and not even hiding the fact. You must be first in line for "new" product like that
Wow, I saw a chinese company is knocking off the porsche macan, and not even hiding the fact. You must be first in line for "new" product like that
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No, I just don't plan on buying a callaway vehicle, or even trying, as they are extremely limited in quantity. Do you think the same when someone wants to add ZR1 front bumpers to their stingray C7? I just like the look and I hope theres an option to have something similar at some point. Kind of like how Vicrez makes C8R lookalike parts.
I think knocking off ideas is lame.
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@newchevyman
Sorry, meant this as a reply but I screwed that up.
There was an article a little while back about how GM is giving Callaway access to the ECU. You are correct in that Callaway says nothing about tuning; granted they mention little about specifics. I am speculating (so no, not a factual statement) that Callaway would tune the ECU along with the performance parts. Its a competitive edge they've been given by GM (or paid for, we don't know how the acquisition went). I personally (opinion) would use every advantage available to sell my product.
Sorry, meant this as a reply but I screwed that up.
There was an article a little while back about how GM is giving Callaway access to the ECU. You are correct in that Callaway says nothing about tuning; granted they mention little about specifics. I am speculating (so no, not a factual statement) that Callaway would tune the ECU along with the performance parts. Its a competitive edge they've been given by GM (or paid for, we don't know how the acquisition went). I personally (opinion) would use every advantage available to sell my product.
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What you may not realize, is the knockoffs for the most part, are nothing but junk. I've owned 4 Callaway vehicles, and their quality of craftsmanship is second to none.
You might be okay with "good enough", but not me. Sorry, I want the best, and am okay paying a reasonable price for it. But you, sounds like you are different, and that's fine. Go for the cheap knock offs. Pretend they are the same. I think one could spot your faux wristwatch from here
. Fakes. LOL
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My guess is it will be around the same as what Lingenfelter is claiming for HP boost since Callaway will be using Callaway branded versions of the same parts (ported intake, throttle body, exhaust). The big difference is going to be that Callaway can actually tune the car vs w/ Lingenfelter they cannot or are using a piggy back. For the first time we'll be able to see what gains can be had from tuning the ECU.
I just don't know where Calloway is indicating a tune for this particular Edition. If not it seems like they have just moved forward without the tune. A ported intake manifold and ported TB I thought would require a tuning adjustment from the factory ECU.....well from Calloway. I guess that we would never know and remain undisclosed.
Callaway is not tuning the C8, no one is tuning the C8 as the ECM/TCM have not been hacked yet nor the coding downloaded. Callaway was using HP Tuners, HP Tuners has said it may be years and or maybe never at all before they get into the E99 ECM the C8 uses. The encryption is considerably more advanced than what was used on the E99 ECM used in the C7 ZR1.
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Callaway is saying or the forum is saying that any tuner is getting 100 hp from an intake manifold, a air filter, headers and an exhaust change and no one thinks thats kind of a lot of hp from those mods?
in any previous generation has anyone done those mods and ever got anywhere near 100 hp besides maybe a bullshit artist.
im sure these are great mods and congratulations to callaway and any other tuner whose ventured into easy bolt on parts that dont destroy the warranty etc....but still 100 hp seems kind of high for those mods.
im sure quarter mile et and trap speeds will improve but to what extent will be the bottom line.
dyno numbers are too easy to be manipulated..
peak to peak or under the curve more likely
still of great importance and probably more likely..
i look forward to seeing the magic
in any previous generation has anyone done those mods and ever got anywhere near 100 hp besides maybe a bullshit artist.
im sure these are great mods and congratulations to callaway and any other tuner whose ventured into easy bolt on parts that dont destroy the warranty etc....but still 100 hp seems kind of high for those mods.
im sure quarter mile et and trap speeds will improve but to what extent will be the bottom line.
dyno numbers are too easy to be manipulated..
peak to peak or under the curve more likely
still of great importance and probably more likely..
i look forward to seeing the magic
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I don’t think that Callaway ever claimed their mods would create a HP increase. There was only external speculation that since Lingenfelter claimed a 600 HP rating, that Callaway could see a similar increase. I think that speculation initially came from the CorvetteBlogger article.
Last edited by AEmedic; Aug 26, 2021 at 09:56 AM.
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Callaway is saying or the forum is saying that any tuner is getting 100 hp from an intake manifold, a air filter, headers and an exhaust change and no one thinks thats kind of a lot of hp from those mods?
in any previous generation has anyone done those mods and ever got anywhere near 100 hp besides maybe a bullshit artist.
im sure these are great mods and congratulations to callaway and any other tuner whose ventured into easy bolt on parts that dont destroy the warranty etc....but still 100 hp seems kind of high for those mods.
im sure quarter mile et and trap speeds will improve but to what extent will be the bottom line.
dyno numbers are too easy to be manipulated..
peak to peak or under the curve more likely
still of great importance and probably more likely..
i look forward to seeing the magic
in any previous generation has anyone done those mods and ever got anywhere near 100 hp besides maybe a bullshit artist.
im sure these are great mods and congratulations to callaway and any other tuner whose ventured into easy bolt on parts that dont destroy the warranty etc....but still 100 hp seems kind of high for those mods.
im sure quarter mile et and trap speeds will improve but to what extent will be the bottom line.
dyno numbers are too easy to be manipulated..
peak to peak or under the curve more likely
still of great importance and probably more likely..
i look forward to seeing the magic
10.5@130 with the above mods mentioned but includes ported heads
10.5@ 129 with the above mods that you mentioned.
No C8s at 600hp with the above mods mentioned
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Callaway is saying or the forum is saying that any tuner is getting 100 hp from an intake manifold, a air filter, headers and an exhaust change and no one thinks thats kind of a lot of hp from those mods?
in any previous generation has anyone done those mods and ever got anywhere near 100 hp besides maybe a bullshit artist.
im sure these are great mods and congratulations to callaway and any other tuner whose ventured into easy bolt on parts that dont destroy the warranty etc....but still 100 hp seems kind of high for those mods.
im sure quarter mile et and trap speeds will improve but to what extent will be the bottom line.
dyno numbers are too easy to be manipulated..
peak to peak or under the curve more likely
still of great importance and probably more likely..
i look forward to seeing the magic
in any previous generation has anyone done those mods and ever got anywhere near 100 hp besides maybe a bullshit artist.
im sure these are great mods and congratulations to callaway and any other tuner whose ventured into easy bolt on parts that dont destroy the warranty etc....but still 100 hp seems kind of high for those mods.
im sure quarter mile et and trap speeds will improve but to what extent will be the bottom line.
dyno numbers are too easy to be manipulated..
peak to peak or under the curve more likely
still of great importance and probably more likely..
i look forward to seeing the magic
I’ve also seen another car that is in a Continental Tire sponsored give away that claims 560 hp from the same Lingenfelter modifications, but then later in the description they word it as “nearly 600hp”. Well 560 is a bit off from 600, as those of us who’ve been modifying our vehicles for some time know.
I think it’s all marketing b.s. personally. If & when Callaway is able to do performance modifications to the C8 their reported numbers will be spot on or even a bit underrated. My Callaway SC652 actually makes more than 652 crank hp, around 670 if you use standard manual transmission estimated drivetrain losses.
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I NEED that double D exhaust system. Biggest complaint about the back is not having the tips in the center as it was with the C7. I see previous iterations of this system were around $5K, I am guessing it will be more for the C8 due to the relocation of the tips and extra carbon fiber trim needed.
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Hopefully they're allowed to start working on performance upgrades vs just the appearance stuff. Lingenfelter is claiming over 100 hp gain with their intake manifold, Corsa headers & exhaust on the 60th Anniversary Cunningham car. Interestingly, there is no mention of warranty in anything on the Cunningham car and they're asking $150k for it.
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Calloway needs to be more specific on the 3/36 warranty. The ported intake manifold, TB and the Honker Intake should be a concern regarding their warranty. We apparently see a modification here. However, If in fact a tuning was not required that would be good news for our members.
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