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Old Nov 12, 2021 | 08:27 PM
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OHV means the cam is in the block not on the heads.
NO OHV means the valves are in the heads not in the block, even engines that are not OHV such as flat heads the cam is in the block.
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Old Nov 12, 2021 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Roger Austin
NO OHV means the valves are in the heads not in the block, even engines that are not OHV such as flat heads the cam is in the block.
Ok, so you tell everybody you have an “under head cam”engine so they don’t get confused.
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Old Nov 12, 2021 | 10:46 PM
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Ok, so you tell everybody you have an “under head cam”engine so they don’t get confused.
no point in being rude, I’m sorry you dont understand the basic principles of a internal combustion engine.
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Old Nov 12, 2021 | 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Majestic94
Ok, so you tell everybody you have an “under head cam”engine so they don’t get confused.
You would say "cam in block" in that case, or pushrod. OHV has been bastardized to mean a pushrod engine recently, though. Similar to calling a magazine for a gun a "clip".
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Originally Posted by Roger Austin
NO OHV means the valves are in the heads not in the block, even engines that are not OHV such as flat heads the cam is in the block.
Have to be careful with what you think is a clear definition! There are smart folks like Rodger Penske who when Indy car changed the wording from a production engine to pushrod engine with a single cam. He had Ilmore design and build "The Beast" that dominated Indy for a year!

Yep Indy folks thought they were just allowing folks to take a production engine with a single cam, which was allowed to have a larger 209 cid and a higher boost, to be more competitive with the typical DOHC engines. They eliminated the prior need for it to be a production block! Rodger had an idea resulting in what was called "The Beast" that dominated Indy and ultimately had to be ruled out! The relative heavy cam follower used cams to rotate it to lift and another lobe to close! Similar to "no valve springs" desmodromic cam operated valves as was used, for example, in a Ducati motorcycle!


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Originally Posted by Roger Austin
no point in being rude, I’m sorry you dont understand the basic principles of a internal combustion engine.
I appreciates the attempt at educating me but you’re not telling me things I don’t already know.

If a new car comes out and the manufacturer says it has an OHV engine, it’s not suggested that simply means it’s not a flathead. That just makes you sound out of date.
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Old Nov 13, 2021 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Majestic94
It sits low because it’s an OHV. Low CG is a good thing regardless of what vehicle it’s on.
Originally Posted by Majestic94
OHV means the cam is in the block not on the heads.
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I appreciates the attempt at educating me but you’re not telling me things I don’t already know.

If a new car comes out and the manufacturer says it has an OHV engine, it’s not suggested that simply means it’s not a flathead. That just makes you sound out of date.
Your previous statements tell me that you don’t fully understand:
1. It sits low because it’s an OHV. That is not true, a OHV engine probably has a higher CG because the heads are taller and have a lot more parts in them.
2 OHV means the cam is in the block no the heads. that is not true either it means the valves are in the heads not the block.
Technically a OHC engine is also a OHV engine.
I find these attempts to educate through text messages very tiring. Some people will never fully understand the workings of a internal combustion engine. So class is over, have a good day.
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Old Nov 13, 2021 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Roger Austin
Your previous statements tell me that you don’t fully understand:
1. It sits low because it’s an OHV. That is not true, a OHV engine probably has a higher CG because the heads are taller and have a lot more parts in them.
2 OHV means the cam is in the block no the heads. that is not true either it means the valves are in the heads not the block.
Technically a OHC engine is also a OHV engine.
I find these attempts to educate through text messages very tiring. Some people will never fully understand the workings of a internal combustion engine. So class is over, have a good day.
No more tiring than dealing with these tangents on the history of engines or semantics of what you would have called them back in your day.

It’s obvious it’s not a flat head engine, so it’s either a OHV or a OHC. Yes both of the have valves on top the head instead of in the block. Today they mean where the cam is located. Why people today use the term OHV to mean the opposite of a OHC I don’t know, they just do. I guess “underhead cam” just didn’t have a good ring to it.

Thanks for the trivia, but it’s still irrelevant to this particular topic.



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Originally Posted by Majestic94
It sits low because it’s an OHV. Low CG is a good thing regardless of what vehicle it’s on.
I think that logic is questionable:: consider a monster Truck ! with 55" of ground clearance !
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Old Nov 13, 2021 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by RYTOCOR
I realize the new LT2 engine was introduced in the new 2020 C8. Is this engine being used in any other GM models? The reason I ask I just watched Jay Leno’s garage review and test drive of the 2023 Z06, he mentioned to the GM engineer that this Z06 was special because the all New LT6 will only be used in the C8 Z06 exclusively like no other Corvette and the engineer did not correct him. The engineer did mention Originally the C6 Z06 came out with the LS7 exclusively until they used it in the CAMARO Z28 and the 427 Corvette in 2013.
I would appreciate your thoughts and knowledge on this subject.
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i saw the show and he does say the engine in the C8/ZO6 was built exclusively for it. i remember when GM introduced the ZR1with the Mercury Marine engines-awesome!
But alas, i also saw where Jay drove the Tesla Plaid S($129,000) that broke the Chiron's(3million $)1/4 mile record. IMO the new exclusive C8/Z06 is a noble achievement but arrived at the end of the ICE era.
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Old Nov 13, 2021 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by MitchAlsup
I think that logic is questionable:: consider a monster Truck ! with 55" of ground clearance !
A low CG is still ideal especially in a lifted vehicle.
monster truck tires and wheels help lower the CG. And OHV motor won’t hurt. Nobody ever says,” I wish my vehicle was more top heavy, “
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Old Nov 13, 2021 | 03:41 PM
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Tahoe is available with 6.2 L (LT2?) v8.
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Old Nov 13, 2021 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Majestic94
A low CG is still ideal especially in a lifted vehicle.
If the vehicle with 55" of ground clearance in it had any ambition of a Low CoG they would not have lifted it that much to begin with.
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Old Nov 13, 2021 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by MitchAlsup
If the vehicle with 55" of ground clearance in it had any ambition of a Low CoG they would not have lifted it that much to begin with.
ground clearance and CG are two different things. You might want more ground clearance but nobody wants a higher CG.
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Tahoe is available with 6.2 L (LT2?) v8.
I believe that is the L87.
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Old Nov 14, 2021 | 07:26 AM
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I believe that is the L87.
Similar, as they’re all part of the Gen V architecture. https://www.holley.com/blog/post/eve...n_v_lt_engine/
Shared engine platforms is the secret sauce to keeping Corvette prices reasonable.
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Originally Posted by Majestic94
ground clearance and CG are two different things. You might want more ground clearance but nobody wants a higher CG.
So, smarty pants, a) if the vehicle has 55" of ground clearance how low can the CoG actually be ?? ___________________

Now, b) pick a number as to how low a CoG has to be in order to be considered a Low CoG ?? _____________________
{Remember this number has to be lower than the roof line of the current C8.}

Now compare a to b ??

And answer the question:: is a lower than b ?
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Originally Posted by MitchAlsup
So, smarty pants, a) if the vehicle has 55" of ground clearance how low can the CoG actually be ?? ___________________

Now, b) pick a number as to how low a CoG has to be in order to be considered a Low CoG ?? _____________________
{Remember this number has to be lower than the roof line of the current C8.}

Now compare a to b ??

And answer the question:: is a lower than b ?
a high CG is a consequence of high ground clearance, not a feature. This you don’t what you can to lower the CG.
Thats why front end lift immediately drops you back to hugging the ground when you’re done with it.
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