Quality hold
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Melting Slicks
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Thanks for the intel John. Explains why the wheel type has no bearing on which wheels or cars were effected. Still sucks that some of us are on what seems like a never ending hold. Come Tuesday I'm at 4 weeks and counting.
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Hey John, any chance you have any intel as to the expected timeframe of GM shipping these cars out? Or perhaps how many are involved?
edited to say I just saw you did specify the general number of cars involved.
edited to say I just saw you did specify the general number of cars involved.
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…edited to add that John58 has earned our trust and “benefit of the doubt” with his periodic reports. J58, we’re lucky to have you.
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I was wondering how so many different types of wheels could all have had defects, this would explain it. John thank you for the info. If you get any intel when they are going to get the extra wheels so they can ship our cars that would be incredible.
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Actually I see it the other way ‘round…I hope it is true because it’s a finite problem that is easily identified and means there is not a systemic design, supplier and/production problem. This is a good thing, can be remedied, and it won’t plague production going forward which is little comfort to those buyers affected…
…edited to add that John58 has earned our trust and “benefit of the doubt” with his periodic reports. J58, we’re lucky to have you.
…edited to add that John58 has earned our trust and “benefit of the doubt” with his periodic reports. J58, we’re lucky to have you.
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Exactly the way I see it as well. Also, how long has this “disgruntled” employee been messing with cars and is he the only one that feels entitled to destroy other people’s property? Hopefully the factory can resolve this issue quickly and take steps to prevent it from happening in the future. I would prefer to see that it’s not a disgruntled employee at all but instead some other process on the line that can be corrected. I feel bad for those that have been caught up in this mess and all the scheduling gyrations they’ve had to go through, and hoping they get their cars soon.
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Exactly the way I see it as well. Also, how long has this “disgruntled” employee been messing with cars and is he the only one that feels entitled to destroy other people’s property? Hopefully the factory can resolve this issue quickly and take steps to prevent it from happening in the future. I would prefer to see that it’s not a disgruntled employee at all but instead some other process on the line that can be corrected. I feel bad for those that have been caught up in this mess and all the scheduling gyrations they’ve had to go through, and hoping they get their cars soon.
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So if we dont get our car before our first payment is due then what ? Can someone from GM reach out to us because this is a BIG F-U to those of us who ordered this car. Lack of communication from the Actual Factory to Customer or Factories to the Dealers is lacking here. Finding out from a Forum or a Corevette Blog is not a way to run a business. I hope we get our cars delivered before Christmas.
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[QUOTE=Bird67;1604378060]Actually I see it the other way ‘round…I hope it is true because it’s a finite problem that is easily identified and means there is not a systemic design, supplier and/or production problem. This is a good thing, can be remedied, and it won’t plague production going forward which is little comfort to those buyers affected…/QUOTE]
I specifically carved out an acknowledgment of those affected. And I stand by the premise of my post. Let’s say the problem was a porosity issue due to bad casting as was the rumor. Where are your replacement wheels going to come from them then? Would you have them put another set of badly cast wheels on your car? At least this way there is nothing wrong with the wheels and when your car gets a fresh set and is on its way to you, you won’t be wondering if yours is another with the casting problem.
You need not reply “I’m going to put in aftermarket wheels anyway” because that reply is a dodge addressing the underlying issue that it should never have happened at all. Everyone agrees with that. And your situation sucks as a result. Everyone agrees with that too. My point is more limited, that the criminal factor can be dealt with criminally (or worse) while the affected cars are resupplied with a part (wheels) that isn’t inherently flawed.
You need not reply “I’m going to put in aftermarket wheels anyway” because that reply is a dodge addressing the underlying issue that it should never have happened at all. Everyone agrees with that. And your situation sucks as a result. Everyone agrees with that too. My point is more limited, that the criminal factor can be dealt with criminally (or worse) while the affected cars are resupplied with a part (wheels) that isn’t inherently flawed.
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[QUOTE=Bird67;1604379309]
Again-I agree. If it is a casting problem there could be cars on the road that went unnoticed as having the problem. Those vehicles could be in a very serious accident caused by the wheel issue, possibly causing loss of life. If the wheels were damaged by an employee, easy fix. No one at risk for serious injury.
Actually I see it the other way ‘round…I hope it is true because it’s a finite problem that is easily identified and means there is not a systemic design, supplier and/or production problem. This is a good thing, can be remedied, and it won’t plague production going forward which is little comfort to those buyers affected…/QUOTE]
I specifically carved out an acknowledgment of those affected. And I stand by the premise of my post. Let’s say the problem was a porosity issue due to bad casting as was the rumor. Where are your replacement wheels going to come from them then? Would you have them put another set of badly cast wheels on your car? At least this way there is nothing wrong with the wheels and when your car gets a fresh set and is on its way to you, you won’t be wondering if yours is another with the casting problem.
You need not reply “I’m going to put in aftermarket wheels anyway” because that reply is a dodge addressing the underlying issue that it should never have happened at all. Everyone agrees with that. And your situation sucks as a result. Everyone agrees with that too. My point is more limited, that the criminal factor can be dealt with criminally (or worse) while the affected cars are resupplied with a part (wheels) that isn’t inherently flawed.
I specifically carved out an acknowledgment of those affected. And I stand by the premise of my post. Let’s say the problem was a porosity issue due to bad casting as was the rumor. Where are your replacement wheels going to come from them then? Would you have them put another set of badly cast wheels on your car? At least this way there is nothing wrong with the wheels and when your car gets a fresh set and is on its way to you, you won’t be wondering if yours is another with the casting problem.
You need not reply “I’m going to put in aftermarket wheels anyway” because that reply is a dodge addressing the underlying issue that it should never have happened at all. Everyone agrees with that. And your situation sucks as a result. Everyone agrees with that too. My point is more limited, that the criminal factor can be dealt with criminally (or worse) while the affected cars are resupplied with a part (wheels) that isn’t inherently flawed.
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Probably not a wheel problem (or THE wheel problem this thread deals with) but mine was built 11/17; got word 11/20 that it went to 4B00, scheduled Museum Delivery for 12/2; got an email over the weekend that the car is in fact on hold. VIN 7261 -- Spectra Gray Tridents.
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Probably not a wheel problem (or THE wheel problem this thread deals with) but mine was built 11/17; got word 11/20 that it went to 4B00, scheduled Museum Delivery for 12/2; got an email over the weekend that the car is in fact on hold. VIN 7261 -- Spectra Gray Tridents.
Are you sure it as not 4D00?
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