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Old Dec 27, 2021 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by PColasanto
I sorta feel like you decided on those definitions/distinctions yourself though, not that those are or ever were "official" anywhere. Not saying that's a bad thing, and maybe it would have helped reduce confusion, but it's definitely not consistent with what is seen in the real world and I don't think it ever was.

I remember my first real "dream car" was the Ferrari 360 Modena Spider, which I believe is just a regular old convertible by traditional definition.
Let's face it...Spyder/Spider means nothing. It just conveys "excitement" or "speed" or "exotic" or whatever in marketing terms, and that's why manufacturers of all kinds (cars, wheels) adopt it. it has no definitive meaning beyond that.

For the non-skiers out there, Spyder has outfitted the US Alpine Ski Team over the years. The line was created by David Jacobs back in the 60s - because the word connoted fast - Ferrari fast.

When I decided to produce my own race clothing I thought of using spider, but why not spell it with a ‘y’ like the Ferrari Spyder? Besides, I hate spiders. The most ominous and frightening thing to me is a black widow spider. So that had to be my logo. I figured if I hated them so much, people would look at the clothing and never forget it. I wanted something powerful and menacing, a lasting image” (Ski Tech, Jan/Feb 1988)



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Old Dec 27, 2021 | 11:37 AM
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Fair enough. I sorta equated it with houses and the differences between townhouse, row home, carriage home, twin, etc. Different people have different view on what they each "mean" and there's no universal definition. Very possible that the website you read that in did that same thing, where they "defined" them on their own, in a very logical way, but that doesn't mean that it was ever true.

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Originally Posted by PColasanto
I sorta feel like you decided on those definitions/distinctions yourself though, not that those are or ever were "official" anywhere. Not saying that's a bad thing, and maybe it would have helped reduce confusion, but it's definitely not consistent with what is seen in the real world and I don't think it ever was.

I remember my first real "dream car" was the Ferrari 360 Modena Spider, which I believe is just a regular old convertible by traditional definition.[/QUOTE

I can't remember where I found all this information, but it didn't just come out of my head. I looked it all up a few years ago. Websights come and go.
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Old Dec 27, 2021 | 11:39 AM
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We should start a separate thread about the Corvette C8 Targa.
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Old Dec 27, 2021 | 03:10 PM
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I did find some more information and what I called a Cabriolet is actually a Landaulette.
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Old Dec 27, 2021 | 03:20 PM
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Let’s not forget about the Mitsubishi Eclipse Spyder. Horrendous design. Much preferred the GSX without all the Fast and Furious wacky paint work.
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Old Dec 27, 2021 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by JQUICK
Let’s not forget about the Mitsubishi Eclipse Spyder. Horrendous design. Much preferred the GSX without all the Fast and Furious wacky paint work.
2nd, 3rd, and 4th gen Eclipses all had Spyder (soft top convertible) versions. You could get a 2nd gen GSX Spyder if you wanted. So I'm not really sure what point you're trying to make here.
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Old Dec 27, 2021 | 04:08 PM
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Then there is the Porsche 718 Spyder, which is the Boxster equivalent of the GT4 (Cayman). It has a convertible top of sorts, which stays with the car, and a rather interesting technique for lowering and raising the tent-like top as the video below shows.

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Old Dec 28, 2021 | 08:32 AM
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I’ve had 2 Spiders….355 and 430. The name fits as they both were filled with electrical bugs.
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Old Dec 28, 2021 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by SoCal C8
I’ve had 2 Spiders….355 and 430. The name fits as they both were filled with electrical bugs.
LOL - I had an F-430 Coupe. The electrical "bugs" in the coupe model were called gremlins. The 430 Ferrari has so many gremlins they have a battery disconnect so you could "reboot". The C8 Corvettes seem to have a few gremlins as well, but worth it at 1/3 the cost!
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Old Dec 28, 2021 | 09:17 AM
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'Spider' is just one of the generic names for convertibles, along with roadster, ragtop, vert, open top, soft top and probably a few others that escape me at the present.
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Old Dec 28, 2021 | 09:32 AM
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Also a very nice paintball gun.



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Old Dec 28, 2021 | 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff V.
2nd, 3rd, and 4th gen Eclipses all had Spyder (soft top convertible) versions. You could get a 2nd gen GSX Spyder if you wanted. So I'm not really sure what point you're trying to make here.
There never was a GSX Spyder. GS-T Spyder was the best you could get in a 2nd gen Eclipse convertible, unfortunately.

But yeah, various manufacturers seem to use different naming schemes for convertibles, removable hardtops, retractable hardtops, etc. There don't seem to be rules around it, nor consistency.
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Old Dec 29, 2021 | 09:34 AM
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I forgot about that. GST and GSX still looked identical though.
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Old Dec 29, 2021 | 10:10 AM
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As the Eagles said in the song James Dean, "along came a spider, picked up a rider, and took him on a ride to eternity" referring to the 1955 Porsche 550 Spyder that JD died in.
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