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Old Mar 31, 2022 | 05:51 PM
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Any one try an eq in one of the streaming services?
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Old Mar 31, 2022 | 08:03 PM
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I don't understand how anyone can say the sound system is decent is this car. I have the 14 speaker system and with the bass turned all the way up it's still sub par at best. I've tried the AudioPilot trick and that still doesn't work, and people who have ridden with me have even made comments about how light the bass is in the car.

I'm wondering what it would take to replace the two 10" subs in the doors with something better and if it would require a separate amp to power them.
What is your listening source? Satellite radio? Try some high resolution audio files from a USB drive.

Compared to the Bose system in my 2005 C6, the 14-speaker Bose system in my C8 is outstanding! Bass is very strong. But everything is relative.
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Old Mar 31, 2022 | 08:41 PM
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What is your listening source? Satellite radio? Try some high resolution audio files from a USB drive.

Compared to the Bose system in my 2005 C6, the 14-speaker Bose system in my C8 is outstanding! Bass is very strong. But everything is relative.
I heard an OEM 1985 Dodge Omni sound better than my C6 did stock.
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Old Apr 1, 2022 | 01:55 AM
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I was shopping for home theater stereo a few years ago and every store I went to showed me the Bose system. They always put on an action movie and turned up the volume. The sound effects are amazing, train crashes, gun battles, jet flyovers, really impressive.
I was ready to buy when I realized that 90% of the time, I am not watching movies, but listening to music. I went home and copied some favorite songs (with heavy bass) onto a CD and went back to the store. Wow, what a shocker, the Bose system had no bottom end,
The sales guys then started pointing me to other brands of speakers, sub bass with amp etc. I ended up not buying the Bose system and never regretted that. My impression; the Bose systems are good and sound OK for an OEM car system, but if you can tell the difference, and really want quality sound, there are much better systems out there, for the same price or less. Sound is very subjective. The C8 comes with Bose, OK I will probably live with it because it is just too difficult and expensive to make changes to a factory system.
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Old Sep 28, 2022 | 12:22 AM
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Illusion or Audison sub in the door OEM fit, Focal or Illusion for the 4in and 5 1/4 in speakers everywhere else. JL amps with DSP. I went with all Illusion with 2 JL amps 1 5ch w DSP and a 4ch. Night and day difference from the stale loud but flat Bose.
I was very disappointed with the 3LT 14 speaker system. No depth or ambience in the mids or highs. 6 K but worth every penny.
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Old Sep 28, 2022 | 09:48 AM
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Default Lots of tire and road noise!

I chuckle at the audiophile “experts” saying Bose Blows the typical criticism! My C8 is quieter than my two C7s, but there is so much tire and road noise no way you can hear these massive improvements they talk about

Guess if you listen to whatever with the car stopped could. But who does that and why bother unless to justify the expense and effort

No way does whatever compare to the new 60 million+ $ performing arts canter in town! Installed many base systems in cars and have a sound wall in the rear of the ProSteet Sedan (with set back 8.2 Liter BB no room for rear seat so have filled with speakers and amps.) Looks nice at car shows!

C8 sound systems plays as soon as I start the car to drown out road and tire noise. Sounds great for the purpose 😁

Looks good at Car Shows!




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Old Sep 28, 2022 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Motown1027
Illusion or Audison sub in the door OEM fit, Focal or Illusion for the 4in and 5 1/4 in speakers everywhere else. JL amps with DSP. I went with all Illusion with 2 JL amps 1 5ch w DSP and a 4ch. Night and day difference from the stale loud but flat Bose.
I was very disappointed with the 3LT 14 speaker system. No depth or ambience in the mids or highs. 6 K but worth every penny.
Nice! 👍
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Old Sep 28, 2022 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by JerryU
I chuckle at the audiophile “experts” saying Bose Blows the typical criticism! My C8 is quieter than my two C7s, but there is so much tire and road noise no way you can hear these massive improvements they talk about

Guess if you listen to whatever with the car stopped could. But who does that and why bother unless to justify the expense and effort
That's why there's a thing called sound deadening. I PROMISE you my "system" in my C6 with only 6 speakers will absolutely slaughter ANYTHING made by Bose in ANY car...EVER.

And I can't hear much (if any) road/wind noise, and I still haven't even treated my headliner yet. But you do you boo-boo.
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Old Sep 28, 2022 | 07:10 PM
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Everyone who has heard this has been blown away. I have de-bosed every car I have ever owned, but the stock system with this upgrade sounds amazing..

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Old Sep 28, 2022 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Pb82 Ronin
That's why there's a thing called sound deadening. I PROMISE you my "system" in my C6 with only 6 speakers will absolutely slaughter ANYTHING made by Bose in ANY car...EVER.

And I can't hear much (if any) road/wind noise, and I still haven't even treated my headliner yet. But you do you boo-boo.
Yep can spend your money and time making it less noisy, but I bought my 6 Vettes (and a number of other performance cars)-FOR PERFORMANCE!
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Old Sep 28, 2022 | 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by JerryU
Yep can spend your money and time making it less noisy, but I bought my 6 Vettes (and a number of other performance cars)-FOR PERFORMANCE!
You bought a base model Corvette for "performance" aye? Let us know how that works out for you. I'm sure it's got plenty of "performance" for you. Much like your white New Balances.

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Old Sep 29, 2022 | 07:02 AM
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You bought a base model Corvette for "performance" aye? Let us know how that works out for you. I'm sure it's got plenty of "performance" for you. Much like your white New Balances.
Base model?? Never owned a Base Model of anything in 63 years driving! This is my 6th Vette all Z51s!


Built my 1st "Performance Car" when in High School. Stuffed in an Olds engine I had bored 1/8 inches for '56 pistons. That or a Caddy were the engine of choice in the mid/late '50s! Pic from school paper.


Pic of my C8 "Performance Option" Z51 (with MRC) week one when I was installing Carbotech 1521 low dust pads. I had installed those on my 2014 Z51 and 2017 Grand Sport.


Oh yea, when I retired in 2000 (well semi, still have a part time internet business) it has an 8.2 Liter BB (I assembled from some 30 boxes that came in a wood crate) set back in a ridged TCI chassis with 420 section Mickey Thomspons. 53% weight of its 3000 lb weight on the Currie 9" Ford rear, wheels.

Yep with setback engine left no room for a rear seat so built a sound wall to "Look Good at car shows!" The volume of subwoofer enclosure is based on a 400-page book I had from the early 1960's on building "HI Fi" speaker enclosures (as it was referred to back in the day!) Yep lots of math (my favorite subject) and tables! Sound science was very good even back then!  Interior Shop did a great job from the "nothing" interior I delivered!


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Old Sep 29, 2022 | 08:31 AM
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I hate to break it to you...a Z51 is a base model.
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Foolish statement. No one has a C8 Z06! I will get the E-Ray ASAP but expect it like the C8 Z06 will be like hens' teeth, very hard to get! BTW, the Z51 has 21% & 25% stiffer springs and stiffer sway bar than the BASE C8. It also has larger brakes with Track ready pads (that produce lots of dust.) That is why I installed low dust street pads as my driving is aggressive BUT only street driven.

The Z51 includes an extra coolant rad for the DCT in the passenger side vent, performance summer only tires and eLSD versus the Base C8 that has 1960's postreaction. Big difference!

Perhaps you have a C8 Z06 in your mind! Suggest you brush up on what the C8 Z51 includes!

My C8 is significantly faster 0 to 60 than my prior M7 C7 Grand Sport and it was one of the fastest Vettes GM built. Good enough for me!



Hard to understand the eSLD versus the 1960's Posi in the BASE C8: This will help, it's a summary of Tadge's very long Forum Post (included in full in the appendix with links to videos.) BUT the summary I prepared is easier to understand! http://netwelding.com/eLSD_VS_Posi.pdf

BTW from Tadg's post the base C8 Posi can lock the slipping wheel with max 88 ft-bs of torque, not a lot. The eSLD does NOT need a slipping wheel to work and can lock either wheel with ~1400 ft-lbs depending on what the computer says is needed for that transient maneuver or just going down the road. Yep it works all the time! Z51 owners can watch on the center screen!


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Originally Posted by Pb82 Ronin
You bought a base model Corvette for "performance" aye? Let us know how that works out for you. I'm sure it's got plenty of "performance" for you. Much like your white New Balances.
My "base" C8 is already more car than I can push to its limits.
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Dude...even YOUR image says Base/Z51. A Z51 IS a base model corvette, just with some different suspension. A ZO6 and ZR1 are in NO WAY the same as a Z51...because it's a modified base model. But whatever floats your boat dude. Sorry you paid six figures for a base model corvette.

Also, ZO6's are being delivered if you look. EH got hers already, others are taking delivery.
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Looked at your car pic in your profile DUDE! eSLD was not on C6 or prior Vettes. Looks like you have 1960's posi!

Look up some info on the C8, which you obviously don't have! There is the BASE car and the Z51 with the Performance options (I have shown quantified) that are included. Yep 21%/25% stiffer springs and sway bar, larger brakes, performance tires, extra coolant rad and eLSD are just base stuff!

My posted info says NOTHING about having a Base C8! Yep Rick Hendrick has his 3.6 million $ Z06 also but not many more!

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Looked at your car pic in your profile DUDE! eSLD was not on C6 or prior Vettes. Looks like you have 1960's posi!

Look up some info on the C8, which you obviously don't have! There is the BASE car and the Z51 with the Performance options (I have shown quantified) that are included. Yep 21%/25% stiffer springs and sway bar, larger brakes, performance tires, extra coolant rad and eLSD are just base stuff!

My posted info says NOTHING about having a Base C8! Yep Rick Hendrick has his Z06 also but not many more!
As I said, whatever helps you sleep at night. I'm not trying to derail this dude's thread anymore. Z51 IS a mildly modded base model. Period.
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I'm sure your C6 sounds fine when the car is stopped! I'll continue to listen at the new Preforming Arts Center in town for quality sound! Recently toured with my local ASME Section!

Interesting acoustical design features!
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Originally Posted by Pb82 Ronin
That's why there's a thing called sound deadening. I PROMISE you my "system" in my C6 with only 6 speakers will absolutely slaughter ANYTHING made by Bose in ANY car...EVER.

And I can't hear much (if any) road/wind noise, and I still haven't even treated my headliner yet. But you do you boo-boo.
Any actual audiophile will tell you that any car system, no matter how much money you spend, will still sound poor compared to any well-designed home system with a properly design listening room. It is simple physics and acoustics.
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