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I would think that if GM wanted to restrict a private purchaser from reselling a car within X timeframe, GM would have to include that as part of the written sales contract - like Ford did with the GT.
They are. There is a separate form the buyer has to sign and date which states the policy and that the buyer understands the policy. It's been posted online previously.
Come on how many here have multiple deposits for new c8s with the intent to keep flipping them...Good for you for making money and keeping the economy rolling as long as there is a wait for these cars flippers will have it made but that time is coming to a end quickly. GM has found a way to end that and that is to charge more.
Come on how many here have multiple deposits for new c8s with the intent to keep flipping them...Good for you for making money and keeping the economy rolling as long as there is a wait for these cars flippers will have it made but that time is coming to a end quickly. GM has found a way to end that and that is to charge more.
Agree to disagree. I had 6 deposits in play when I got my allocation from one of the dealers after 6 months. I cancelled all but my MM place in line and passed on two MM allocations because my car was already being built. I waited to cancel MM until after I received my car just in case something went wrong. After driving her home from the museum, I cancelled my final spot in line and received my deposit back. I am all for capitalism and do not fault anyone for getting more for something than what they paid for it. I just chose not to chase what now appears to be $5000-$10000 after all is said and done. I think the perfect storm led to the flipping phenomenon: high demand, low supply, a low price for a great car, rising used car prices for trades, and super cheap money with low interest rates. Several of those are changing, thus the amount of money to be made is decreasing. To those that still do it and those that want to spend more than MSRP, congrats and enjoy.
I have my financial advisor buy and sell stocks for me. I expect him to buy low and sell high to increase the value of my portfolio. Is he a "flipper?" According to some of the responses here he is a flipper. Do any one of you who despise people who flip cars invest in the stock market? It's the same principle.
I sold my C6 when the market went nuts in March 2020 because I saw a chance to get all the money I had paid for it 14 months earlier back plus 1/2 of what I had added in mods. I sold my 2014 MB E350 Cabriolet AMG in July 2020 because I wasn't going to lose as much on resale than I would in a regular market. We sold a house we had lived in for seven years in July 2021 when the real estate market was peaking and made a lot of money on it. I guess I am of the same character in some eyes here as a flipper.
In the financial world, you are expected to 'flip' buy low sell high as they say so it's the actual business and profession of the people who engage in it. You selling existing assets because the opportunity arose, also not a flipper. A flipper is someone who is actively engaged in seeking markets where there are shortages and they swoop in and buy as much of that asset as they can afford with the sole purpose of taking advantage of buyers. A single flipper on their own is harmless. When many do it, they amplify the shortage effect and create a FOMO effect for the buyers which eventually cause many to pay above msrp.
please define 'flipping'.
i've heard rumors that GM voids the warranty on vehicles sold within one year
I'm sure the term flipping has many definitions - but below is one from Investopeia. GM does not mention the term flip or flipping in the warranty manual, but that manual does say certain coverages will be VOIDED if ownership of the vehicle is transferred from the original owner within the first 6 months after delivery, as posted in post 14. I understand from other posts that some have been asked to sign a document indicating they are familiar with "the policy". I don't know if that document used the term flip, or just uses similar wording indicated "transfer of ownership within the first 6 months after delivery".
In the financial world, you are expected to 'flip' buy low sell high as they say so it's the actual business and profession of the people who engage in it. You selling existing assets because the opportunity arose, also not a flipper. A flipper is someone who is actively engaged in seeking markets where there are shortages and they swoop in and buy as much of that asset as they can afford with the sole purpose of taking advantage of buyers. A single flipper on their own is harmless. When many do it, they amplify the shortage effect and create a FOMO effect for the buyers which eventually cause many to pay above msrp.
We can agree to disagree. I stated it’s the same principle and as @Andybump posted, Investopedia’s definition supports my opinion.
…having a hard time NOT flipping the Taylor Swift tickets I scored Tues.! I was able to snag 3, $49 tickets because that’s all that was left when I finally got in, but now they’re $1K seats! 🤦♂️😝
…my daughter would flip out if I did though 🙄
I have my financial advisor buy and sell stocks for me. I expect him to buy low and sell high to increase the value of my portfolio. Is he a "flipper?"
I think the difference here is the stocks don't have a MSRP... I don't think people mind the buying and selling but the "price gouging" is the thing that pisses everyone off.
I'm trying to think of a good analogy. Let's say a person is thinking ahead and buys a warehouse full of 20oz bottled water for $85k. Then waits until there's a natural disaster and the grocery store shelves are bare, and people need water. The guy shows up outside the grocery stores with a truck and trailer and starts selling the individual bottles for $10 each. He has every right to do so. Is he just a smart businessman? Is he an opportunist? A "flipper"?
I think the difference here is the stocks don't have a MSRP... I don't think people mind the buying and selling but the "price gouging" is the thing that pisses everyone off.
I'm trying to think of a good analogy. Let's say a person is thinking ahead and buys a warehouse full of 20oz bottled water for $85k. Then waits until there's a natural disaster and the grocery store shelves are bare, and people need water. The guy shows up outside the grocery stores with a truck and trailer and starts selling the individual bottles for $10 each. He has every right to do so. Is he just a smart businessman? Is he an opportunist? A "flipper"?
Lets not confuse flipping 85k dollar Corvettes with price gouging water or gasoline during hurricanes or sanitizer and n95 masks during early covid.
To call that a proper analogy is rediculous imo.
Selling a Corvette for markup after buying it for msrp is just that. Its selling an in demand completely unnecessary luxury item for what market allows.
flipping isn't the real problem ******* dealers holding allotment numbers and marking up 10 to 30 k is. At least most flippers can be reasoned with when the market starts to slow.
They are. There is a separate form the buyer has to sign and date which states the policy and that the buyer understands the policy. It's been posted online previously.
When did this start? I signed no such form when purchasing my 2023 C8.
Flipping is buying then quickly selling a commodity for a profit. Perfectly legal in our capitalistic society. Absolutely no reason to complain about it.
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