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Old Dec 7, 2022 | 01:02 PM
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My C8 is Torch Red with Natural Dipped interior. I noticed that the leather is actually laid across the top of the black dash, somewhat piled up. Looks a little weird to be frank. Is this because earlier versions of the dipped caused the dash to separate at the joint of the black and the interior color?
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Pic?? No way to say if it is normal the way youre describing it.
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A very known problem with 3lts since the c6. It's under warranty. Also why a lot of ppl chose 2lt over 3lt
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Pic?? No way to say if it is normal the way youre describing it.


Passenger side

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Drivers side
Looks normal to me.
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Old Dec 7, 2022 | 02:32 PM
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A very known problem with 3lts since the c6. It's under warranty. Also why a lot of ppl chose 2lt over 3lt
He's not talking about delamination, but how the dash is assembled.

OP: based on your pics yours is perfectly normal. The "leather" is applied over the top of the plastic dash components underneath. One pic is super blurry but I dont see anything unusual in the others.

The C8 dash isnt one big monolithic piece like many cars. There is a larger component with several smaller pieces above it, like the "blades" or "hockey sticks" for instance that are a different color when doing 2 tone interiors.
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Originally Posted by Korbek
He's not talking about delamination, but how the dash is assembled.

OP: based on your pics yours is perfectly normal. The "leather" is applied over the top of the plastic dash components underneath. One pic is super blurry but I dont see anything unusual in the others.

The C8 dash isnt one big monolithic piece like many cars. There is a larger component with several smaller pieces above it, like the "blades" or "hockey sticks" for instance that are a different color when doing 2 tone interiors.
Ok thanks! I just thought the leather overlay was a bit odd. I guess I expected it to merge with the plastic dash in a seam not like hockey sticks on top. I guess that was because of delamination? I think it would be sleeker if they merged as one piece
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Ok thanks! I just thought the leather overlay was a bit odd. I guess I expected it to merge with the plastic dash in a seam not like hockey sticks on top. I guess that was because of delamination? I think it would be sleeker if they merged as one piece
Not really sure what led to the design decisions on the dash. I do think it is quite a bit busier than it needs to be, but my gripes about the C8 are minor and mostly cosmetic like that.

Quad center round tip exhaust like the Z06, a less "busy" dash, and getting rid of the tablet touch screen are the main things I would change on the car. I wouldnt mind keeping the touch screen if we could get an analog gauge cluster. They could easily have all the other stuff displayed on the digital gauge cluster be displayed on the touch screen instead to allow for an analog speedo/odo, but oh well. Thats the times we live in. I'll "settle" for my HTC as it sits. Hopefully one day I'll get my hands on a garage queen Z06 for not too much $$ and give my wife the stingray.
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A very known problem with 3lts since the c6. It's under warranty. Also why a lot of ppl chose 2lt over 3lt
It’s under warranty. They actually chose 2LT over 3LT because it saves money.
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It’s under warranty. They actually chose 2LT over 3LT because it saves money.
Some chose 2lt because of the delamination. who cares if it's under warranty. It's a hassle for no reason.
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Some chose 2lt because of the delamination. who cares if it's under warranty. It's a hassle for no reason.
No. If they say that they’re lying. if they wanted a hassle free car they would have gotten a Toyota. People buy what they like within a budget.
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No. If they say that they’re lying. if they wanted a hassle free car they would have gotten a Toyota. People buy what they like within a budget.
You are dictating peoples intentions even though they tell you thier intentions. You are funny guy. People don't buy a corvette for hassle or hassle free but I assure you they would prefer a hassle free car, myself included
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No. If they say that they’re lying. if they wanted a hassle free car they would have gotten a Toyota. People buy what they like within a budget.
Dude this is just flat wrong. I have a 3LT and I did specifically consider a 2LT because it could delaminate once it's OUT of warranty. For plenty of people, money is not the deciding factor. They just dont want to deal with it down the line.

I even considered buying a 2LT with GT2 seats, then spending 700 bucks getting and installing a 3LT airbag cover for the steering wheel. All done that would have put me only about 2k or so below the 3LT price on a 92k car. Not exactly a $$ based decision.

I ultimately decided to roll the dice on 3LT but if it delaminates after my B2B is up I'll be pissed, and it has nothing to do with $$.

You arent the sole authority of how and why others make buying decisions. They arent "lying" just because you say they are.
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Some chose 2lt because of the delamination. who cares if it's under warranty. It's a hassle for no reason.
Exactly this...
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You are dictating peoples intentions even though they tell you thier intentions. You are funny guy. People don't buy a corvette for hassle or hassle free but I assure you they would prefer a hassle free car, myself included
Not particular funny, Majestic94 just LOVES to argue, that's the primary reason he comes here.
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On topic - that's how all the dashes look. It's the design. Nothing to do with 3LT or Natty interior.
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Originally Posted by Ctevans
Ok thanks! I just thought the leather overlay was a bit odd. I guess I expected it to merge with the plastic dash in a seam not like hockey sticks on top. I guess that was because of delamination? I think it would be sleeker if they merged as one piece
The dash side trim pieces are for design. The 3LT dash failure issue was only for for some C6 and C7's. I had zero issues with my 6 year old C6 3LT and my ~4 year old 2014 3LT C7 before I sold both. It appears to be more of an issue of parking in the sun although may not be the whole answer.

For the C7 GM said they used 3 "soft touch materials" for the interior: 1) Vinyl,1) Mulan and 3) Napa leather on the seating surface of the top of the line seat. The C7 3LT dash was made from GM's coined name for faux leather, Mulan. By deduction the 1LT and 2LT dash were Vinyl as there were no significant reports of dash issues with those.

For the C8 the ONLY place they say they use real tanned animal hide is the seating surface of the GT2 seat. (One minor exception mentioned in one interview is the wrist rest cover for the Drive Mode **** that could be real tanned animal hide Napa leather.) They state even the bolster on that seat and the seating surface of the GT1 seat are their faux leather Mulan. They don't state Mulan is faux leather but that is what it is.

The difference is for the C7 the Mulan leather was bonded leather than contains finely ground leather scraps as a filler (probably 10 to 20%.) When they got cheap with the 3LT in 2016 and IMO made it look like a "Patch Work Quit" I bought a 2LT 2017 grand Sport because thought the dash looked better so saved money. Frankly I could not tell the difference in my apparently Vinyl dash ad Mulkan seating surface. Both are man made and are embossed with a leather look pattern.

They hooked me back to a 3LT with Natural Dipped. Someone bought a 3LT dash part and it said it was made from a higher level cost faux leather, Polyurethane. It may not contain any finely ground real animal hide. GM does not say. Mulan can be whatever faux leather GM wants it to be as it's their proprietary name!

The C8 dash failures I have seen posted were related to adhesion versus the shrinkage and delamination in C7s. The 1LT and 2LT could be Vinyl but again GM does not say.


All years noted below are 3LT. My 2014 C7 3LT had the dash mostly covered in tan as well as the door panel. They got cheap in 2016 and reduced the seat color on the dash and door panel except for a few special models like the one that came with Spice Red. Did not care for the look so for my 2017 Grand Sport bought a 2LT interior.


The 3LT C8 dash has more plastic next to the windshield. It reduces the amount of reelection from the Tan dash compared to the 2014 that had a smaller amount of black next to the windshield. Hopefully I'll have the same luck with my C8 3LT as I did with my C6 and C7 3LT and have zero issues.

The only place you'll see GM say they use real tanned animal hide is the GT2 "seating surface." Note even the bolsters are their faux leather coined name Mulan. In one article it did say one other small part was Napa leather, the wrist rest over the Drive Mode ****.

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Dude this is just flat wrong. I have a 3LT and I did specifically consider a 2LT because it could delaminate once it's OUT of warranty. For plenty of people, money is not the deciding factor. They just dont want to deal with it down the line.

I even considered buying a 2LT with GT2 seats, then spending 700 bucks getting and installing a 3LT airbag cover for the steering wheel. All done that would have put me only about 2k or so below the 3LT price on a 92k car. Not exactly a $$ based decision.

I ultimately decided to roll the dice on 3LT but if it delaminates after my B2B is up I'll be pissed, and it has nothing to do with $$.

You arent the sole authority of how and why others make buying decisions. They arent "lying" just because you say they are.
The delaminating is caused by not enough adhesive being used. If it delaminates it will happen long before your warranty is up.
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You are dictating peoples intentions even though they tell you thier intentions. You are funny guy. People don't buy a corvette for hassle or hassle free but I assure you they would prefer a hassle free car, myself included
Dude you bought a car with well documented transmission problems with no known cause or fix other than luck. Don’t act like dash wrinkling is a hassle you didn’t was worth it.
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Dude this is just flat wrong. I have a 3LT and I did specifically consider a 2LT because it could delaminate once it's OUT of warranty. For plenty of people, money is not the deciding factor. They just dont want to deal with it down the line.

I even considered buying a 2LT with GT2 seats, then spending 700 bucks getting and installing a 3LT airbag cover for the steering wheel. All done that would have put me only about 2k or so below the 3LT price on a 92k car. Not exactly a $$ based decision.

I ultimately decided to roll the dice on 3LT but if it delaminates after my B2B is up I'll be pissed, and it has nothing to do with $$.

You arent the sole authority of how and why others make buying decisions. They arent "lying" just because you say they are.
They’re not lying intentionally. It’s just what they tell themselves then share on the internet.

We’ve all bought into a brand new, clean sheet, radical new design with very little production numbers or history to establish a long term sense of reliability with well documented DCT problems to boot. I call hard BS and on the dash board being where we draw the line on risk.

If initial cost isn’t a problem and the cost and hassle of out of warranty repairs is, then an extended factory warranty is a no brainer. It well worth it for all the other issues that might creep up on this car as it ages. This forum only documents the easy stuff that popped up within the first couple years/first few thousand miles. Simply getting a 2LT doesn’t get you out of the woods.
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